# S2000 opinions? The Miata story... **URL:** \ **Category:** PittSpeed Automotive\ **Created:** [December 24, 2007, 12:01pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/s2000-opinions-the-miata-story/194364 "2007-12-24T12:01:53Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 4
**Author:** ![Orr89rocz](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/ac91a4/32.png) [@Orr89rocz](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Orr89rocz)\ **Post date:** [December 27, 2007, 12:48pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/s2000-opinions-the-miata-story/194364/61 "2007-12-27T12:48:54Z")
> I’m not necessarily looking for anything “fast.” i dont know about you but high 11’s at 118 is pretty fucking quick. ---
**Author:** ![SoLow](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/solow/32/6001_2.png) [@SoLow](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/SoLow)\ **Post date:** [December 27, 2007, 3:48pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/s2000-opinions-the-miata-story/194364/62 "2007-12-27T15:48:56Z")
jesse quit being a chump, and just upgrade ur suspension and keep the miata ---
**Author:** ![T34418L31](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/e56c9b/32.png) [@T34418L31](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/T34418L31)\ **Post date:** [December 27, 2007, 5:04pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/s2000-opinions-the-miata-story/194364/63 "2007-12-27T17:04:08Z")
The car would have to be raised a good bit for the kind of clearance I think it’d need, and no, I’m not interested in driving a monster truck around. Edit : It’s at stock ride height right now. It’s not like I have the car slammed or anything, guys. ---
**Author:** ![SoLow](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/solow/32/6001_2.png) [@SoLow](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/SoLow)\ **Post date:** [December 27, 2007, 5:07pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/s2000-opinions-the-miata-story/194364/64 "2007-12-27T17:07:02Z")
> [@psphinx81 = oroc](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/psphinx81-oroc/34084/13): > > The car would have to be raised a good bit for the kind of clearance I think it’d need, and no, I’m not interested in driving a monster truck around. > > Edit : It’s at stock ride height right now. It’s not like I have the car slammed or anything, guys. didn’t the weight of the new drive line drop it ? ---
**Author:** ![spoolinsteve](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/spoolinsteve/32/6026_2.png) [@spoolinsteve](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/spoolinsteve)\ **Post date:** [December 27, 2007, 5:11pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/s2000-opinions-the-miata-story/194364/65 "2007-12-27T17:11:08Z")
ls1 full driveline is less than 100 pounds over the stock miata motor ---
**Author:** ![T34418L31](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/e56c9b/32.png) [@T34418L31](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/T34418L31)\ **Post date:** [December 27, 2007, 5:15pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/s2000-opinions-the-miata-story/194364/66 "2007-12-27T17:15:07Z")
> [@\*\*\*9/02/07 NYSpeed end of summer BBQ @ Letchworth \*\*\*PAYMENT Deadline 8/20\*\*\*](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/9-02-07-nyspeed-end-of-summer-bbq-letchworth-payment-deadline-8-20/32470/139): > > didn’t the weight of the new drive line drop it ? Not any more than having a second person in the car with me. ---
**Author:** ![SixSpeed454SS](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/e19adc/32.png) [@SixSpeed454SS](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/SixSpeed454SS)\ **Post date:** [December 27, 2007, 6:39pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/s2000-opinions-the-miata-story/194364/67 "2007-12-27T18:39:01Z")
> [@psphinx81 = oroc](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/psphinx81-oroc/34084/13): > > The car would have to be raised a good bit for the kind of clearance I think it’d need, and no, I’m not interested in driving a monster truck around. > > Edit : It’s at stock ride height right now. It’s not like I have the car slammed or anything, guys. After all your bellyaching about the “low” ride height of your Miata, I decided to go down to my garage & measure the lowest points of my truck. It is pretty low for a fullsize, but I have engineered everything to be higher than the front crossmember & front airdam. This meant about 10-12 hrs in modifying the brand new $800 headers, custom fabbed trans crossmember, all of the exhaust tucked up in the frame, no other chassis/suspension component hanging lower, etc, etc. My airdam is 3 1/8" from the ground. My front crossmember is 2 7/8" off of the ground (the oil pan actually is behind the x-member & lower, but too low to reach that far from the side/front of the truck while on the ground). My lower control arm mounts are 3" off of the ground. The spring pockets in the lower control arms are 2 3/4" from the ground. My frame rails are 3 1/4" at their lowest point. I have been driving this truck for about 10 years, exactly at this height, with the same exact tire size & do not have any major problems with bottoming out. Granted I do not use it as a DD, but you aren’t doing so, either. Sure, I have to be careful when entering a drivway, shopping plaza, etc., but my truck is extremely streetable. I am not concerned with the driveability of my truck and I have proven it by doing 2700 miles in a week on the '07 Power Tour (also 1600 miles in a week on the '02 Power Tour). I’ve never gotten it stuck & it rarely ever scrapes or bottoms out. If you would like, you can even come over here & measure it yourself, if you don’t believe me. It sounds more to me that you are bored with the Miata & just want something new. If you had 3/4" of extra height, you would not be any worse off than my truck. You sure could pick that up with different tire diameters & possible spring upgrade. Just my .02 ---
**Author:** ![SoLow](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/solow/32/6001_2.png) [@SoLow](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/SoLow)\ **Post date:** [December 27, 2007, 6:45pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/s2000-opinions-the-miata-story/194364/68 "2007-12-27T18:45:24Z")
> [@10/29 UPDATE: So I went to the gym...](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/10-29-update-so-i-went-to-the-gym/34079/36): > > After all your bellyaching about the “low” ride height of your Miata, I decided to go down to my garage & measure the lowest points of my truck. It is pretty low for a fullsize, but I have engineered everything to be higher than the front crossmember & front airdam. This meant about 10-12 hrs in modifying the brand new $800 headers, custom fabbed trans crossmember, all of the exhaust tucked up in the frame, no other chassis/suspension component hanging lower, etc, etc. > > My airdam is 3 1/8" from the ground. My front crossmember is 2 7/8" off of the ground (the oil pan actually is behind the x-member & lower, but too low to reach that far from the side/front of the truck while on the ground). My lower control arm mounts are 3" off of the ground. The spring pockets in the lower control arms are 2 3/4" from the ground. My frame rails are 3 1/4" at their lowest point. I have been driving this truck for about 10 years, exactly at this height, with the same exact tire size & do not have any major problems with bottoming out. Granted I do not use it as a DD, but you aren’t doing so, either. Sure, I have to be careful when entering a drivway, shopping plaza, etc., but my truck is extremely streetable. I am not concerned with the driveability of my truck and I have proven it by doing 2700 miles in a week on the '07 Power Tour (also 1600 miles in a week on the '02 Power Tour). I’ve never gotten it stuck & it rarely ever scrapes or bottoms out. If you would like, you can even come over here & measure it yourself, if you don’t believe me. > > It sounds more to me that you are bored with the Miata & just want something new. If you had 3/4" of extra height, you would not be any worse off than my truck. You sure could pick that up with different tire diameters & possible spring upgrade. > > Just my .02 very well put tod…i know my truck was just as low as urs too ---
**Author:** ![SoLow](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/solow/32/6001_2.png) [@SoLow](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/SoLow)\ **Post date:** [December 27, 2007, 6:48pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/s2000-opinions-the-miata-story/194364/69 "2007-12-27T18:48:27Z")
![http://www.pittspeed.com/uploaded/Clean%20007.jpg](http://www.pittspeed.com/uploaded/Clean%20007.jpg) ---
**Author:** ![BeastMode](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/beastmode/32/6027_2.png) [@BeastMode](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/BeastMode)\ **Post date:** [December 27, 2007, 7:18pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/s2000-opinions-the-miata-story/194364/70 "2007-12-27T19:18:36Z")
who said anything bout monster truck?? w/e just figured id suggest it 😃 i let you drive my truck and you change your mind hehe ---
**Author:** ![Orr89rocz](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/ac91a4/32.png) [@Orr89rocz](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Orr89rocz)\ **Post date:** [December 27, 2007, 8:10pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/s2000-opinions-the-miata-story/194364/71 "2007-12-27T20:10:47Z")
that car in the pic above has PLENTY of ground clearance ---
**Author:** ![spoolinsteve](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/spoolinsteve/32/6026_2.png) [@spoolinsteve](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/spoolinsteve)\ **Post date:** [December 27, 2007, 8:18pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/s2000-opinions-the-miata-story/194364/72 "2007-12-27T20:18:16Z")
i swear it doesnt have that much clearance now. i know that sounds stupid but i just was riding bikes with jesse and some other folk on the one recent warm day. who knows ---
**Author:** ![berad](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/berad/32/5953_2.png) [@berad](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/berad)\ **Post date:** [December 27, 2007, 8:27pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/s2000-opinions-the-miata-story/194364/73 "2007-12-27T20:27:27Z")
Seriously, my Passat was ungodly low on 15’s and the only trouble I had might have been the occasional speed bump so you are all correct in that Jesse W is a whiner chump who needs to toughen up and quit bitching or buy a SUV and leave it be. I should’ve closed this thread a while ago but I enjoy this dude continually come up with excuses to argue an invalid point. ![http://www.first-bass.com/images/galleries/9_photo_album_Pittspeed_Members/BradsVW%201.jpg](http://www.first-bass.com/images/galleries/9_photo_album_Pittspeed_Members/BradsVW%201.jpg) ---
**Author:** ![T34418L31](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/e56c9b/32.png) [@T34418L31](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/T34418L31)\ **Post date:** [December 27, 2007, 9:51pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/s2000-opinions-the-miata-story/194364/74 "2007-12-27T21:51:55Z")
> [@SOLD!!!!!!!!!!FS: Pro charged 4.6l 3 valve.](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/sold-fs-pro-charged-4-6l-3-valve/34086/5): > > Seriously, my Passat was ungodly low on 15’s and the only trouble I had might have been the occasional speed bump so you are all correct in that Jesse W is a whiner chump who needs to toughen up and quit bitching or buy a SUV and leave it be. I should’ve closed this thread a while ago but I enjoy this dude continually come up with excuses to argue an invalid point. Get the fuck out of my thread then. I’m going to post a pic of the subframe in a few minutes. ---
**Author:** ![T34418L31](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/e56c9b/32.png) [@T34418L31](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/T34418L31)\ **Post date:** [December 27, 2007, 10:17pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/s2000-opinions-the-miata-story/194364/75 "2007-12-27T22:17:20Z")
And of course, the batteries in my camera are dead. I’ll grab a pic tomorrow. I don’t know why, though. This is Pittspeed, where everyone is an expert on someone else’s car that most have never even seen. ---
**Author:** ![T34418L31](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/e56c9b/32.png) [@T34418L31](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/T34418L31)\ **Post date:** [December 27, 2007, 10:21pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/s2000-opinions-the-miata-story/194364/76 "2007-12-27T22:21:00Z")
> [@Baby Wrestles King Cobra](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/baby-wrestles-king-cobra/34066/17): > > that car in the pic above has PLENTY of ground clearance Look at the front end. Notice how low it hangs. As I said, I’ll grab a pic from the front tomorrow. I’m not saying “the subframe may hit.” I bottom the thing out almost **every time** I drive the car and the subframe is beat to prove it. This is a thread asking about S2000’s and maybe Cobra’s, and in the usual fashion, only a few have said anything usefully relevant. ---
**Author:** ![T34418L31](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/e56c9b/32.png) [@T34418L31](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/T34418L31)\ **Post date:** [December 27, 2007, 10:23pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/s2000-opinions-the-miata-story/194364/77 "2007-12-27T22:23:07Z")
I have also smacked the diff off of the ground on more than one occasion, and I’ll get pics of that as well. ---
**Author:** ![spoolinsteve](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/spoolinsteve/32/6026_2.png) [@spoolinsteve](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/spoolinsteve)\ **Post date:** [December 27, 2007, 10:29pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/s2000-opinions-the-miata-story/194364/78 "2007-12-27T22:29:41Z")
i like that vdub ---
**Author:** ![SoLow](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/solow/32/6001_2.png) [@SoLow](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/SoLow)\ **Post date:** [December 27, 2007, 10:57pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/s2000-opinions-the-miata-story/194364/79 "2007-12-27T22:57:01Z")
> [@Baby Wrestles King Cobra](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/baby-wrestles-king-cobra/34066/17): > > that car in the pic above has PLENTY of ground clearance that car is jesse’s… and calm down jesse, i just would like to see u keep it ---
**Author:** ![T34418L31](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/e56c9b/32.png) [@T34418L31](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/T34418L31)\ **Post date:** [December 27, 2007, 11:00pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/s2000-opinions-the-miata-story/194364/80 "2007-12-27T23:00:55Z")
> [@every one pray](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/every-one-pray/33929/88): > > that car is jesse’s… > > and calm down jesse, i just would like to see u keep it Nah, I know you mean well, it’s no biggie, I’m referring to the other people bitching and talking about things they know nothing about. [Previous page](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/s2000-opinions-the-miata-story/194364.md?page=3) [Next page](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/s2000-opinions-the-miata-story/194364.md?page=5)