# S2000 or 350Z?

**URL:** <https://forums.speedlife.net/t/s2000-or-350z/15222>\
**Category:** NYSpeed Automotive\
**Created:** [July 29, 2006, 4:46pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/s2000-or-350z/15222 "2006-07-29T16:46:13Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![ly555is](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/3bc359/32.png) [@ly555is](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/ly555is)\
**Post date:** [July 30, 2006, 10:56am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/s2000-or-350z/15222/41 "2006-07-30T10:56:42Z")

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whoa, a VERY good friend

better hush up mike, since it’s just been established that the relationship one has with the owner of either car in question is actually a valid point in this debate

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**Author:** ![MPD47](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/mpd47/32/7383_2.png) [@MPD47](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/MPD47)\
**Post date:** [July 30, 2006, 11:00am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/s2000-or-350z/15222/42 "2006-07-30T11:00:53Z")

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🤣

**I INVENTED THE 350Z BITCHES!**

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**Author:** ![Studderin](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/studderin/32/7197_2.png) [@Studderin](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Studderin)\
**Post date:** [July 30, 2006, 11:06am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/s2000-or-350z/15222/43 "2006-07-30T11:06:56Z")

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I see in inferred.

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**Author:** ![05OrangeSS](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/0/eada6e/32.png) [@05OrangeSS](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/05OrangeSS)\
**Post date:** [July 30, 2006, 11:10am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/s2000-or-350z/15222/44 "2006-07-30T11:10:26Z")

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Man everyone just wants to start with me lately…anyway I was just saying the Z is a very tail happy car…but with recent trends SOMEONE has to go off topic… 350z=my choice between the 2

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**Author:** ![MPD47](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/mpd47/32/7383_2.png) [@MPD47](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/MPD47)\
**Post date:** [July 30, 2006, 11:14am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/s2000-or-350z/15222/45 "2006-07-30T11:14:27Z")

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Now I’m going to be an asshole. Have you driven both? The 350z is NOT a tail happy car if you dont drive like a ham fisted FWD owner. It’s very easy to control with either throttle or smooth steering inputs. The S2k is significantly more tail happy, and harder to control. Most of it has to do with tire selection between the two cars, but a lot of it has to do with where vtec engagement and the twitchy steering on the S2k. Basically, it sounds like you dont have a clue as to what you’re talking about.

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**Author:** ![STEALTTH](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/stealtth/32/7582_2.png) [@STEALTTH](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/STEALTTH)\
**Post date:** [July 30, 2006, 11:15am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/s2000-or-350z/15222/46 "2006-07-30T11:15:56Z")

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Mike is right on. I’ve driven both and agree 100%

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**Author:** ![91MR2](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/91mr2/32/7217_2.png) [@91MR2](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/91MR2)\
**Post date:** [July 30, 2006, 11:24am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/s2000-or-350z/15222/47 "2006-07-30T11:24:14Z")

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Abso-fucking-lutely get the S2000. No contest. One of the coolest cars ever built I think.

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**Author:** ![Locutus](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/locutus/32/7574_2.png) [@Locutus](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Locutus)\
**Post date:** [July 30, 2006, 11:27am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/s2000-or-350z/15222/48 "2006-07-30T11:27:28Z")

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if your considering buying a stook, and you test drive it, be prepared to buy it. seriously. dont test drive the stook unless your sure you want to buy it 🙂

im also assuming it wont be your dd? right? if it is, 250z, buffalo + stook = ony drive your car 6 months a year

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**Author:** ![ly555is](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/3bc359/32.png) [@ly555is](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/ly555is)\
**Post date:** [July 30, 2006, 11:39am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/s2000-or-350z/15222/49 "2006-07-30T11:39:44Z")

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haha, or get it rustop’d and put weight in the back… and, uh - don’t die in it

oh man that would be fun at ECC south

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**Author:** ![Lopros86](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/lopros86/32/7301_2.png) [@Lopros86](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Lopros86)\
**Post date:** [July 30, 2006, 1:27pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/s2000-or-350z/15222/50 "2006-07-30T13:27:58Z")

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> [@MPD47](#):
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> We’re also not talking boosted for boosted, we’re talking off the showroom floor. So boost is not in the equation.

boost should always be in the equation. - chris maybe a race will settle the debate

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**Author:** ![05OrangeSS](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/0/eada6e/32.png) [@05OrangeSS](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/05OrangeSS)\
**Post date:** [July 30, 2006, 1:33pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/s2000-or-350z/15222/51 "2006-07-30T13:33:21Z")

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> [@MPD47](#):
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> Now I’m going to be an asshole. Have you driven both? The 350z is NOT a tail happy car if you dont drive like a ham fisted FWD owner. It’s very easy to control with either throttle or smooth steering inputs. The S2k is significantly more tail happy, and harder to control. Most of it has to do with tire selection between the two cars, but a lot of it has to do with where vtec engagement and the twitchy steering on the S2k. Basically, it sounds like you dont have a clue as to what you’re talking about.

What the fuck is this susposed to mean?? If you turn the TCS off on the Z it becomes VERY tail happy when driving it hard. But what would I know??

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**Author:** ![NA-KING](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/na-king/32/7515_2.png) [@NA-KING](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/NA-KING)\
**Post date:** [July 30, 2006, 1:52pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/s2000-or-350z/15222/52 "2006-07-30T13:52:07Z")

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Well there’s no way in hell i’m going to drive either cars in the winter thats what my 97’ civic is for. I love winter beaters. LOL. Oh yea, Beck and Aaron, I think your right the L_S_F\* crew has spoken.

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**Author:** ![Carnut](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/carnut/32/7590_2.png) [@Carnut](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Carnut)\
**Post date:** [July 30, 2006, 1:52pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/s2000-or-350z/15222/53 "2006-07-30T13:52:28Z")

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Having driven both, having putting both through their paces. S2000 \> 350z.

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**Author:** ![bing](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/bing/32/7211_2.png) [@bing](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/bing)\
**Post date:** [July 30, 2006, 5:48pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/s2000-or-350z/15222/54 "2006-07-30T17:48:41Z")

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elise.

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**Author:** ![Adictd2b00st](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/adictd2b00st/32/7625_2.png) [@Adictd2b00st](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Adictd2b00st)\
**Post date:** [July 30, 2006, 5:58pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/s2000-or-350z/15222/55 "2006-07-30T17:58:48Z")

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> [@05OrangeSS](#):
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> What the fuck is this susposed to mean?? If you turn the TCS off on the Z it becomes VERY tail happy when driving it hard. But what would I know??

i think mike is talking about on a road course, not just fucking around on the street. seeing as he’s tracked both cars

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**Author:** ![95Z28](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/9/85e7bf/32.png) [@95Z28](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/95Z28)\
**Post date:** [July 30, 2006, 6:15pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/s2000-or-350z/15222/56 "2006-07-30T18:15:51Z")

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First of all, I have not driven either car, so take my opinion like a grain of salt. If you’re going to be getting into autocross, roadcourses, whatever, the S2000 is probably more so the car for you. If this was my decision I’d pick the 350z simply because i can’t fucking stand narrow powerbands, plus cruising on the highway in the S2000 has got to get annoying after a while. But as others said, you’re going to have to take both for a test drive and see which fits you better. It’s a lot of money to be spending either way, so make sure you get the one that you’ll enjoy more.  
Oh and my vote…350Z droptop 😃

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**Author:** ![\_nails](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/_/58956e/32.png) [@\_nails](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/_nails)\
**Post date:** [July 30, 2006, 9:56pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/s2000-or-350z/15222/57 "2006-07-30T21:56:38Z")

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it sounds like you have other options for a daily driver, so i guess the s2k is the winner in this situation, that thing is a goddamn fighter jet in car form. but if you do plan on using either for a DD i would give the Z a strong consideration since it’s a bit more comfortable and has some tq.

oh and the Z drop top is UGLY with the top up. top down it’s beautiful though.

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**Author:** ![neurokinetik](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/neurokinetik/32/7270_2.png) [@neurokinetik](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/neurokinetik)\
**Post date:** [July 31, 2006, 8:02am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/s2000-or-350z/15222/58 "2006-07-31T08:02:43Z")

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> [@MPD47](#):
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> Now I’m going to be an asshole. Have you driven both? The 350z is NOT a tail happy car if you dont drive like a ham fisted FWD owner. It’s very easy to control with either throttle or smooth steering inputs. The S2k is significantly more tail happy, and harder to control. Most of it has to do with tire selection between the two cars, but a lot of it has to do with where vtec engagement and the twitchy steering on the S2k. Basically, it sounds like you dont have a clue as to what you’re talking about.

One data point on the S2k as an auto-x car… I was discussing alignment settings with Mark Seelbinder (who auto-x’s a '03 S2000), and he runs **1/4" of toe in at the rear** to keep the tail in line. That is a ton of toe.

The handling and feel of an S2k (like a Miata, and the suspensions are VERY similar) is VERY alignment dependent.

I’d try to discuss the car choices over on SCCA Forums, there are people nationally campaigning 350Zs, RX8s and S2ks. (don’t discount the difference between an '05+ S2k and the '04 and older version either. The jury is still out, but the trend seems to be that the '05+ may be a little better)

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**Author:** ![MPD47](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/mpd47/32/7383_2.png) [@MPD47](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/MPD47)\
**Post date:** [July 31, 2006, 8:18am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/s2000-or-350z/15222/59 "2006-07-31T08:18:48Z")

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Yes Mark runs toe in, Jeff does too IIRC. It’s closer to the UK alignment specs and I’ve heard of some nasty things happening with S2k alignments from the dealer. Plus when the stook squats it tends to end up with a whole lot more toe out than is normal.

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**Author:** ![MaximaSE98](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/maximase98/32/7600_2.png) [@MaximaSE98](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/MaximaSE98)\
**Post date:** [July 31, 2006, 8:21am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/s2000-or-350z/15222/60 "2006-07-31T08:21:34Z")

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i am a biased Nissan guy anyway

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