# "SAFE" Act arrest in New Lebanon

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**Created:** [May 13, 2013, 11:50am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/safe-act-arrest-in-new-lebanon/267007 "2013-05-13T11:50:20Z")\
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**Post date:** [May 22, 2013, 5:25pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/safe-act-arrest-in-new-lebanon/267007/45 "2013-05-22T17:25:14Z")

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> [@Wow, I'm bored... trolling the gas saving forum](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/wow-im-bored-trolling-the-gas-saving-forum/52809/4):
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> According to the law, weed is a hard drug. It is just as bad as crack, heroin, and cocaine (according to the law).
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> I should have been more specific in my earlier post. Gun laws banning guns or limiting rounds won’t work. I am all for the background checks for private sales (but not in the way it is currently implemented, where the gun stores are forced to carry most of the financial burden for zero gain), increasing the penalties, and keeping guns away from the mentally ill (again, in this case the way the current law implements it is terrible; it lets people who have little to no training in mental health diagnosis make the decisions). I would support a law that required gun safety to be taught in schools.
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> Anti-gunners are pointing to guns and saying “That is your problem!” It is not; the problem are the criminals. Take a look at alcohol and drunk driving laws. The law doesn’t make alcohol illegal. The law makers knew that would never work (hell, they tried it in the 20s). Instead the law makes abusing alcohol and putting the safety of others at risk a serious crime and puts in place a logical way to determine when someone is putting others at risk through alcohol abuse.
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> /rant

Drunk driving is a terrible example.

There is no point in making alcohol illegal cause you can punish individual people for their actions.

Drunk driving laws allow to punish the one neglegent person and make him take responsibility for his own actions. NOBODY bats an eye when somebody you know gets a DWI, fuck some people call cops on their friends when they drive even though others try to stop them.

However it’s impossible to implement anything on one single negligible irresponsible gun owner due to the “rights to bear arms yarrrr”. All the stories of people leaving loaded guns within childrens reach with no safety, or accidental discharges killing people are here to stay. There is no way to report somebody for having a loaded rifle just laying around in a frat house full of drunk people. They can’t take his “gun license” away and punish just that one person.

Anti gunners are mad at the idiots having guns and doing stupid thing with them. If there were no stupid mistakes made with guns by stupid people, that would cut half the drama off the issue off.

So if there is no education on proper firearm handling and self policing within firearm community, anti gunners have no choice but to make a policy on the entire population every time an idiot kills somebody or leaves a loaded gun with kids that end up shooting others.

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