# Saturn to put Toyota, Honda, Chevy in their dealerships

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**Category:** NYSpeed Automotive\
**Created:** [May 25, 2007, 10:37am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/saturn-to-put-toyota-honda-chevy-in-their-dealerships/29872 "2007-05-25T10:37:40Z")\
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**Author:** ![JayS](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/jays/32/15375_2.png) [@JayS](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/JayS)\
**Post date:** [May 25, 2007, 10:37am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/saturn-to-put-toyota-honda-chevy-in-their-dealerships/29872/1 "2007-05-25T10:37:40Z")

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[http://www.cnn.com/2007/AUTOS/05/25/gm\_vs\_camry/index.html](http://www.cnn.com/2007/AUTOS/05/25/gm_vs_camry/index.html)

> NEW YORK ([CNNMoney.com](http://CNNMoney.com)) – If you want to test drive a Toyota Camry or Honda Accord, starting next month you’ll be able to do it at a Saturn dealership. General Motors is asking Saturn dealers to have one or more of the competing models in the showroom so customers can look at it, sit in it and drive it.

GM is apparently very confident that the Aura compares well to it’s rivals.

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**Author:** ![Fry](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/fry/32/7284_2.png) [@Fry](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Fry)\
**Post date:** [May 25, 2007, 10:45am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/saturn-to-put-toyota-honda-chevy-in-their-dealerships/29872/2 "2007-05-25T10:45:50Z")

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I wonder how many dealers will plunk down $50k of their own money to have a Camry & Accord on hand just because GM asks them to…

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**Author:** ![HotRodKid](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/hotrodkid/32/7609_2.png) [@HotRodKid](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/HotRodKid)\
**Post date:** [May 25, 2007, 10:57am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/saturn-to-put-toyota-honda-chevy-in-their-dealerships/29872/3 "2007-05-25T10:57:46Z")

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^^ none of them ?

the schmitts were PISSED when audi forced them to have that a4 avant as a “roadside service” vehical. Tim Schmitt smiled when i offered to steal it and burn it for the insurance $

so dealershits will pay $50,000 for 2 vehicals, for customers to beat on, and then have to sell them at a loss at the end of the year because no customer is going to want to compare an 07 camery to an 08 saturn, or an 09 saturn ect ect

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**Author:** ![JayS](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/jays/32/15375_2.png) [@JayS](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/JayS)\
**Post date:** [May 25, 2007, 10:58am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/saturn-to-put-toyota-honda-chevy-in-their-dealerships/29872/4 "2007-05-25T10:58:44Z")

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I’m wondering how many dealers do it, then remove a spark plug wire or swaybar endlink from the competition’s car.

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**Author:** ![misteroman](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/misteroman/32/7423_2.png) [@misteroman](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/misteroman)\
**Post date:** [May 25, 2007, 10:59am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/saturn-to-put-toyota-honda-chevy-in-their-dealerships/29872/5 "2007-05-25T10:59:44Z")

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I have heard that Aura is one incredible vehicle.  
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**Author:** ![93dx\_hatch](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/9/90ced4/32.png) [@93dx\_hatch](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/93dx_hatch)\
**Post date:** [May 25, 2007, 11:02am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/saturn-to-put-toyota-honda-chevy-in-their-dealerships/29872/6 "2007-05-25T11:02:12Z")

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Meh, the comparable Japaneses cars will still have double the resale value in 5 years when they are paid off,

Saturns don’t hold value for shit

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**Author:** ![drvnkd](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/drvnkd/32/109615_2.png) [@drvnkd](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/drvnkd)\
**Post date:** [May 25, 2007, 11:14am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/saturn-to-put-toyota-honda-chevy-in-their-dealerships/29872/7 "2007-05-25T11:14:32Z")

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[quote=“HotRodKid,post:3,topic:29872"”]

so dealershits will pay $50,000 for 2 vehicals, for customers to beat on,  
and then have to sell them at a loss at the end of the year

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not as much a loss as the other test mules.

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**Author:** ![Paulo](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/paulo/32/7328_2.png) [@Paulo](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Paulo)\
**Post date:** [May 25, 2007, 11:20am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/saturn-to-put-toyota-honda-chevy-in-their-dealerships/29872/8 "2007-05-25T11:20:55Z")

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i would be very weary of the comparison still. Like Jay said, they could just mess with the car a little to make it perform less or handle like crap.

it is a good idea tho, if the aura can stand it’s ground.

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**Author:** ![JayS](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/jays/32/15375_2.png) [@JayS](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/JayS)\
**Post date:** [May 25, 2007, 12:28pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/saturn-to-put-toyota-honda-chevy-in-their-dealerships/29872/9 "2007-05-25T12:28:13Z")

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I got a good look at an Aura the other day and was pretty impressed. Haven’t driven one though because a slow 4 door family sedan isn’t in my future any time soon.

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**Author:** ![2TurboZ](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/2turboz/32/7577_2.png) [@2TurboZ](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/2TurboZ)\
**Post date:** [May 25, 2007, 12:31pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/saturn-to-put-toyota-honda-chevy-in-their-dealerships/29872/10 "2007-05-25T12:31:52Z")

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I drove an Aura a few months ago. It was 28k for hte fully loaded one I drove and I really liked the options for the $.

That said I would take 28k and buy a wonderfully preowned import car every day of the week before i ate American made depreciation pie.

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**Author:** ![somedude](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ecd19e/32.png) [@somedude](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/somedude)\
**Post date:** [May 25, 2007, 12:36pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/saturn-to-put-toyota-honda-chevy-in-their-dealerships/29872/11 "2007-05-25T12:36:14Z")

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[quote=“JayS,post:9,topic:29872"”]

I got a good look at an Aura the other day and was pretty impressed. Haven’t driven one though because a slow 4 door family sedan isn’t in my future any time soon.

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they can’t be that slow. it has what 260hp? + a sweet 6speed ATX. BTW that is the same 6speed that Ford and GM worked togeather to devlope. see also ford 500, fusion, edge, for that transmission. car and driver said that the ford tuning on the transmission was better than the GM tuning, but when i read they were testing pre production so that may have changed.

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**Author:** ![HotRodKid](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/hotrodkid/32/7609_2.png) [@HotRodKid](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/HotRodKid)\
**Post date:** [May 25, 2007, 12:37pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/saturn-to-put-toyota-honda-chevy-in-their-dealerships/29872/12 "2007-05-25T12:37:32Z")

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they should make the dealers put 50k on a new aura, and then have the dealers buy a Camry and Accord

that would realy show the difference, lol

not that im saying the GM would be crap by that point … even thought it will be … but im not saying it …

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**Author:** ![traumadog](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/8baadc/32.png) [@traumadog](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/traumadog)\
**Post date:** [May 25, 2007, 12:37pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/saturn-to-put-toyota-honda-chevy-in-their-dealerships/29872/13 "2007-05-25T12:37:58Z")

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[quote=“somedude,post:11,topic:29872"”]

they can’t be that slow. it has what 260hp? + a sweet 6speed ATX. BTW that is the same 6speed that Ford and GM worked togeather to devlope. see also ford 500, fusion, edge, for that transmission. car and driver said that the ford tuning on the transmission was better than the GM tuning, but when i read they were testing pre production so that may have changed.

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Thought I heard the opposite - where the A6 tuning in the Acadia was much better (after the upgrade) than the one in the Edge.

Though I’d bet that the competitions’ cars would be the low-level models, rather than being messed with.

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**Author:** ![ZOMGVTEK](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/zomgvtek/32/5063_2.png) [@ZOMGVTEK](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/ZOMGVTEK)\
**Post date:** [May 25, 2007, 11:09pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/saturn-to-put-toyota-honda-chevy-in-their-dealerships/29872/14 "2007-05-25T23:09:11Z")

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I couldnt see how this would be a good idea on saturns part… The accord has been on top for many years, and the camry i believe got rated higher this year, but theyre both top two… Satun never really had anything that could compare in features and reliability, why would they out of nowhere do it?

And no way id buy two cars to just sit there and get abused if i had a dealership…

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**Author:** ![91MR2](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/91mr2/32/7217_2.png) [@91MR2](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/91MR2)\
**Post date:** [May 25, 2007, 11:11pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/saturn-to-put-toyota-honda-chevy-in-their-dealerships/29872/15 "2007-05-25T23:11:59Z")

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This is comical, I like seeing american car companies putting themselves out of business due to their own stupidity…

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**Author:** ![ZOMGVTEK](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/zomgvtek/32/5063_2.png) [@ZOMGVTEK](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/ZOMGVTEK)\
**Post date:** [May 25, 2007, 11:21pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/saturn-to-put-toyota-honda-chevy-in-their-dealerships/29872/16 "2007-05-25T23:21:04Z")

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[quote=“91MR2,post:15,topic:29872"”]

This is comical, I like seeing american car companies putting themselves out of business due to their own stupidity…

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Good stuff…

But, lets see how this works itself out…

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**Author:** ![irocmick](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/irocmick/32/7425_2.png) [@irocmick](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/irocmick)\
**Post date:** [May 26, 2007, 5:41am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/saturn-to-put-toyota-honda-chevy-in-their-dealerships/29872/17 "2007-05-26T05:41:13Z")

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for all of you nay sayers on the saturn. i am in the market for a 4 door and recently drove all three of the above and the saturn was the nicest all round. i have owned 2 accords in the past so i am not anti-jap. the accord and camry were nice but next to the aura they were quite boring. still haven’t bought yet i want to check out the v-6 sonata.
