# Saving money, cutting costs

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**Created:** [December 22, 2012, 8:54pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/saving-money-cutting-costs/265835 "2012-12-22T20:54:40Z")\
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**Author:** ![Boost\_Creep](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/boost_creep/32/6366_2.png) [@Boost\_Creep](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Boost_Creep)\
**Post date:** [February 20, 2013, 8:26am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/saving-money-cutting-costs/265835/161 "2013-02-20T08:26:09Z")

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GT-R haven’t really depreciated. The used models have risen in value. low mileage 10s are still selling in the 70s. Nissan is continuing to raise MSRP’s so used cars are holding value. A new black edition is like $115K. It was like $90K… a 09 Premium was like $80K new. Anyone who buys a high mileage 09 better have it checked. LC1 wasn’t forgiving.

Leasing makes sense for someone who owns a business. You can write off that entire lease on your taxes as a business vehicle. Still a crazy amount of money.

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**Author:** ![Cossey](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/3ec8ea/32.png) [@Cossey](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Cossey)\
**Post date:** [February 20, 2013, 8:28am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/saving-money-cutting-costs/265835/162 "2013-02-20T08:28:39Z")

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> [@Why I Hate GTO's.](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/why-i-hate-gtos/51769/26):
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> GT-R haven’t really depreciated. The used models have risen in value. low mileage 10s are still selling in the 70s. Nissan is continuing to raise MSRP’s so used cars are holding value. A new black edition is like $115K. It was like $90K… a 09 Premium was like $80K new. Anyone who buys a high mileage 09 better have it checked. LC1 wasn’t forgiving.
> 
> Leasing makes sense for someone who owns a business. You can write off that entire lease on your taxes as a business vehicle. Still a crazy amount of money.

Yea, I couldn’t believe the starting price on the 13s. Pretty much $100k.

You see the new Track Editions coming out? Do want.

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**Author:** ![KrazyKid](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/krazykid/32/6371_2.png) [@KrazyKid](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/KrazyKid)\
**Post date:** [February 20, 2013, 9:32am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/saving-money-cutting-costs/265835/163 "2013-02-20T09:32:23Z")

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> [@Why I Hate GTO's.](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/why-i-hate-gtos/51769/26):
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> GT-R haven’t really depreciated. The used models have risen in value. low mileage 10s are still selling in the 70s. Nissan is continuing to raise MSRP’s so used cars are holding value. A new black edition is like $115K. It was like $90K… a 09 Premium was like $80K new. Anyone who buys a high mileage 09 better have it checked. LC1 wasn’t forgiving.
> 
> **Leasing makes sense for someone who owns a business. You can write off that entire lease on your taxes as a business vehicle. Still a crazy amount of money**.

If your bussiness is roofing, I highly doubt writing off a $21,600 for a “business vehicle” would fly. A F350 or something maybe, but its not easy to put shingles in the trunk of a GTR.

Not too many businesses I could think of could claim a legit NEED to have a GTR, to write it off.

PAGING TRACEY

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**Author:** ![Cossey](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/3ec8ea/32.png) [@Cossey](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Cossey)\
**Post date:** [February 20, 2013, 9:38am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/saving-money-cutting-costs/265835/164 "2013-02-20T09:38:18Z")

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> [@KrazyKid"](#):
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> If your bussiness is roofing, I highly doubt writing off a $21,600 for a “business vehicle” would fly. A F350 or something maybe, but its not easy to put shingles in the trunk of a GTR.
> 
> Not too many businesses I could think of could claim a legit NEED to have a GTR, to write it off.
> 
> PAGING TRACEY

I’m 99% sure there’d be no issue with it, as it’s not only a leased business vehicle, but it can be considered advertising as well if there’s a decal or something on it.

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**Author:** ![crAppAchic0](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/crappachic0/32/6306_2.png) [@crAppAchic0](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/crAppAchic0)\
**Post date:** [February 20, 2013, 9:51am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/saving-money-cutting-costs/265835/165 "2013-02-20T09:51:52Z")

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> [@Cossey"](#):
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> it can be considered advertising as well if there’s a decal or something on it.

This. You can drop practically anything into the ‘advertising’ budget.

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**Author:** ![sbardy](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/8edcca/32.png) [@sbardy](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/sbardy)\
**Post date:** [February 20, 2013, 9:55am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/saving-money-cutting-costs/265835/166 "2013-02-20T09:55:58Z")

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> [@Why I Hate GTO's.](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/why-i-hate-gtos/51769/26):
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> GT-R haven’t really depreciated. The used models have risen in value. low mileage 10s are still selling in the 70s. Nissan is continuing to raise MSRP’s so used cars are holding value. A new black edition is like $115K. It was like $90K… a 09 Premium was like $80K new. Anyone who buys a high mileage 09 better have it checked. LC1 wasn’t forgiving.
> 
> Leasing makes sense for someone who owns a business. You can write off that entire lease on your taxes as a business vehicle. Still a crazy amount of money.

this, nissan is doing it right with the gtr…

raising the msrp is so smart in this case, back in 09 coulda sworn they were high 70s low 80s new… up till recently you could barely get a 09 for that…

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**Author:** ![KrazyKid](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/krazykid/32/6371_2.png) [@KrazyKid](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/KrazyKid)\
**Post date:** [February 20, 2013, 10:01am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/saving-money-cutting-costs/265835/167 "2013-02-20T10:01:35Z")

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Cool. CRC just leased a private jet, look out side your office windows it might fly by.

Tracey is coming thursday to file my taxes, cant wait for my return now.

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**Author:** ![TracEy](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/tracey/32/6561_2.png) [@TracEy](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/TracEy)\
**Post date:** [February 20, 2013, 10:05am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/saving-money-cutting-costs/265835/168 "2013-02-20T10:05:56Z")

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> [@Why I Hate GTO's.](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/why-i-hate-gtos/51769/26):
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> Leasing makes sense for someone who owns a business. You can write off that entire lease on your taxes as a business vehicle. Still a crazy amount of money.

I read this and instantly had an accounting hardon! I love people who have brains!

> [@Cossey"](#):
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> I’m 99% sure there’d be no issue with it, as it’s not only a leased business vehicle, but it can be considered advertising as well if there’s a decal or something on it.

THIS^ I can’t tell you the ridicules cars people lease every year. I know a business who pays for his and his wife’s lease and she simply has an advertising sticker on it…

> [@KrazyKid"](#):
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> Cool. CRC just leased a private jet, look out side your office windows it might fly by.
> 
> Tracey is coming thursday to file my taxes, cant wait for my return now.

:facepalm

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**Post date:** [February 20, 2013, 10:06am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/saving-money-cutting-costs/265835/169 "2013-02-20T10:06:42Z")

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> [@sbardy"](#):
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> this, nissan is doing it right with the gtr…
> 
> raising the msrp is so smart in this case, back in 09 coulda sworn they were high 70s low 80s new… up till recently you could barely get a 09 for that…

I agree. Problem is if they keep going they are going to price themselves out of the market.

Chart:

Pricing:  
2014 GTR

PREMIUM

MSRP 100,590 \*Includes 1K Destination (Increase of 2,770 over 2013 9,640 over 2012)

INVOICE 94,714 \*Includes 1K Destination

BLACK EDITION

MSRP 110,300 \*Includes 1K Destination (Increase of 2,980 over 2013 14,200 over 2012)

INVOICE 102,875 ( Includes 1K Destination)

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**Author:** ![Cossey](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/3ec8ea/32.png) [@Cossey](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Cossey)\
**Post date:** [February 20, 2013, 10:07am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/saving-money-cutting-costs/265835/170 "2013-02-20T10:07:31Z")

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> [@KrazyKid"](#):
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> Cool. CRC just leased a private jet, look out side your office windows it might fly by.
> 
> Tracey is coming thursday to file my taxes, cant wait for my return now.

Just because you spent that in advertising doesn’t mean you get that money back in taxes lol.

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**Author:** ![Boost\_Creep](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/boost_creep/32/6366_2.png) [@Boost\_Creep](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Boost_Creep)\
**Post date:** [February 20, 2013, 10:14am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/saving-money-cutting-costs/265835/171 "2013-02-20T10:14:26Z")

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> [@Eff you mcds..eff you](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/eff-you-mcds-eff-you/51792/15):
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> Just because you spent that in advertising doesn’t mean you get that money back in taxes lol.

THIS. LOL.

It’s a very small amount.

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**Author:** ![crAppAchic0](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/crappachic0/32/6306_2.png) [@crAppAchic0](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/crAppAchic0)\
**Post date:** [February 20, 2013, 10:26am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/saving-money-cutting-costs/265835/172 "2013-02-20T10:26:11Z")

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> [@Vista Crack](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/vista-crack/51793/2):
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> THIS. LOL.
> 
> It’s a very small amount.

Absolutely! You’re not getting “money back” so much as you’re able to deduct the amount you spent toward ‘advertising’ or whatnot from your taxable income (business or otherwise).

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**Author:** ![KrazyKid](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/krazykid/32/6371_2.png) [@KrazyKid](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/KrazyKid)\
**Post date:** [February 20, 2013, 10:31am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/saving-money-cutting-costs/265835/173 "2013-02-20T10:31:17Z")

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:facepalm

I understand if I spent $1.2Mil on a jet with CRC vinyl down the side, doesnt mean I get a check for $1.2M back to me. lol

KK seriousness doesnt shine through his keyboard I guess. lol

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**Post date:** [February 20, 2013, 10:39am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/saving-money-cutting-costs/265835/174 "2013-02-20T10:39:18Z")

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> [@KrazyKid"](#):
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> If your bussiness is roofing, I highly doubt writing off a $21,600 for a “business vehicle” would fly. A F350 or something maybe, but its not easy to put shingles in the trunk of a GTR.
> 
> Not too many businesses I could think of could claim a legit NEED to have a GTR, to write it off.
> 
> PAGING TRACEY

your business doesn’t need a 2 million dollar yaht either buy you can still right that shit off

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**Author:** ![KrazyKid](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/krazykid/32/6371_2.png) [@KrazyKid](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/KrazyKid)\
**Post date:** [February 20, 2013, 10:42am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/saving-money-cutting-costs/265835/175 "2013-02-20T10:42:18Z")

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Just left the the tattoo shop, Eric, Kevin and I got CRC across our foreheads.

BAM $800 write off!

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**Author:** ![sbardy](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/8edcca/32.png) [@sbardy](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/sbardy)\
**Post date:** [February 20, 2013, 10:54am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/saving-money-cutting-costs/265835/176 "2013-02-20T10:54:42Z")

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> [@What is more hilarious?](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/what-is-more-hilarious/51796/2):
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> I agree. Problem is if they keep going they are going to price themselves out of the market.
> 
> Chart:
> 
> Pricing:  
> 2014 GTR
> 
> PREMIUM
> 
> MSRP 100,590 \*Includes 1K Destination (Increase of 2,770 over 2013 9,640 over 2012)
> 
> INVOICE 94,714 \*Includes 1K Destination
> 
> BLACK EDITION
> 
> MSRP 110,300 \*Includes 1K Destination (Increase of 2,980 over 2013 14,200 over 2012)
> 
> INVOICE 102,875 ( Includes 1K Destination)

Still best car for the money… i believe they still have room to keep going up for a while and still be the best car for the money.

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**Author:** ![Cossey](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/3ec8ea/32.png) [@Cossey](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Cossey)\
**Post date:** [February 20, 2013, 10:59am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/saving-money-cutting-costs/265835/177 "2013-02-20T10:59:59Z")

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> [@KrazyKid"](#):
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> :facepalm
> 
> I understand if I spent $1.2Mil on a jet with CRC vinyl down the side, doesnt mean I get a check for $1.2M back to me. lol
> 
> KK seriousness doesnt shine through his keyboard I guess. lol

Well you’re usually typing long, drawn out serious responses so I didn’t know how to take it lol.

> [@FREE: Legalize It Zippo](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/free-legalize-it-zippo/51743/15):
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> Still best car for the money… i believe they still have room to keep going up for a while and still be the best car for the money.

While I agree it’s the best car for the money, I feel Nissan should be building a car in between the 370Z and the GTR to fill that price gap. Full loaded Z Nismo edition is under $43k, BASe GTR is more than $50k more. I think a model in between would be pretty smart for Nissan to build, something in the $50-60k range. Something like a GTR-Lite.

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**Post date:** [February 20, 2013, 11:10am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/saving-money-cutting-costs/265835/178 "2013-02-20T11:10:06Z")

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> [@FS: pocketbike SOLD](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/fs-pocketbike-sold/51778/6):
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> I think a model in between would be pretty smart for Nissan to build, something in the $50-60k range. Something like a GTR-Lite.

used gtr

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**Post date:** [February 20, 2013, 11:11am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/saving-money-cutting-costs/265835/179 "2013-02-20T11:11:12Z")

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> [@FS: pocketbike SOLD](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/fs-pocketbike-sold/51778/5):
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> Just left the the tattoo shop, Eric, Kevin and I got CRC across our foreheads.
> 
> BAM $800 write off!

you should pay a couple crackhead to do that. advertising for the rest of their short life spans

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**Author:** ![sbardy](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/8edcca/32.png) [@sbardy](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/sbardy)\
**Post date:** [February 20, 2013, 11:18am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/saving-money-cutting-costs/265835/180 "2013-02-20T11:18:22Z")

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> [@FS: pocketbike SOLD](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/fs-pocketbike-sold/51778/6):
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> Well you’re usually typing long, drawn out serious responses so I didn’t know how to take it lol.
> 
> While I agree it’s the best car for the money, I feel Nissan should be building a car in between the 370Z and the GTR to fill that price gap. Full loaded Z Nismo edition is under $43k, BASe GTR is more than $50k more. I think a model in between would be pretty smart for Nissan to build, something in the $50-60k range. Something like a GTR-Lite.

ya gotta pay to play…

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