# School me on news groups

**URL:** <https://forums.speedlife.net/t/school-me-on-news-groups/226379>\
**Category:** NYSpeed Off Topic\
**Created:** [October 4, 2012, 6:55pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/school-me-on-news-groups/226379 "2012-10-04T18:55:21Z")\
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**Author:** ![Willybeen](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/willybeen/32/7351_2.png) [@Willybeen](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Willybeen)\
**Post date:** [October 4, 2012, 6:55pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/school-me-on-news-groups/226379/1 "2012-10-04T18:55:21Z")

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Lately I have wanted to download some stuff and I cant find it … with demonoid going down I dont have the time to validate and look so hard.

So, where do I start with news groups. How much should I expect it to cost? Is the risk of getting in trouble greatly reduced over torrents?

I seem to remember my ex g/fs dad using them and movies would download in 100’s of files instead of a single avi or mp4.

Soooo… where do I start?

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**Author:** ![boardjnky4](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/96bed5/32.png) [@boardjnky4](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/boardjnky4)\
**Post date:** [October 4, 2012, 7:14pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/school-me-on-news-groups/226379/2 "2012-10-04T19:14:15Z")

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Nzbmatrix for finding files. Astraweb as the provider (they aren’t taking down files the way some others are). Should cost 10-15/month.

If you’re on a mac, unison client. Configure the client to connect to your provider then open the nzb file with the client.

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**Author:** ![Willybeen](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/willybeen/32/7351_2.png) [@Willybeen](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Willybeen)\
**Post date:** [October 4, 2012, 7:18pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/school-me-on-news-groups/226379/3 "2012-10-04T19:18:21Z")

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I’m on windows

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**Author:** ![boardjnky4](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/96bed5/32.png) [@boardjnky4](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/boardjnky4)\
**Post date:** [October 4, 2012, 7:22pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/school-me-on-news-groups/226379/4 "2012-10-04T19:22:14Z")

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[http://sabnzbd.org](http://sabnzbd.org) seems to be a windows user favorite but I don’t know. Jays or boxxa will chime in.

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**Author:** ![Willybeen](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/willybeen/32/7351_2.png) [@Willybeen](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Willybeen)\
**Post date:** [October 4, 2012, 7:41pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/school-me-on-news-groups/226379/5 "2012-10-04T19:41:52Z")

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Are they safer than torrents from a piracy standpoint? What about a quality files perspective?

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**Author:** ![evane](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/6bbea6/32.png) [@evane](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/evane)\
**Post date:** [October 4, 2012, 8:47pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/school-me-on-news-groups/226379/6 "2012-10-04T20:47:38Z")

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[Nzbmatrix.org](http://Nzbmatrix.org) or [nzbs.org](http://nzbs.org) for searching  
binsearch.info gets a honorable mention for search for single songs.  
Sabnzbd for a client (regardless of OS)

For automation  
Sickbeard (TV)  
Couchpotato (Movies)

As far as the provider goes, go [here](http://sickbeard.com/usenet.html) and click the referring link for either [usenetserver.com](http://usenetserver.com), [newshosting.com](http://newshosting.com) or astraweb.

I use [usenetserver.com](http://usenetserver.com) (works great), I know JayS uses [newshosting.com](http://newshosting.com) (i did previously worked great), and quite a few folks I know use and like astraweb. All of them are good providers, go with the cheapest in my recommendation.

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> [@Willybeen](#):
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> Are they safer than torrents from a piracy standpoint? What about a quality files perspective?

Quality is limitless, anything from full BDRips (30-50gig file sets) to DVD quality. I myself tend to stick to 1080P movies and HD quality TV. In general newsgroups are much safer, all traffic is done over SSL, it is not peer to peer and there are upload sharing ratios (which is where you get into serious shit on BT trackers)

The one issue is the nzb indexing sites (nzbmatrix, [nzbs.org](http://nzbs.org), etc) can get shut down but only one I know of too date was shutdown was newzbin and it ended up coming back. Hell the software that most of them run is open sores ([newznab](http://www.newznab.com/)) so you can in theory run your own site.

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**Author:** ![travisn](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/travisn/32/5046_2.png) [@travisn](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/travisn)\
**Post date:** [October 4, 2012, 9:50pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/school-me-on-news-groups/226379/7 "2012-10-04T21:50:08Z")

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So these have nothing to do with actual news?

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**Author:** ![evane](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/6bbea6/32.png) [@evane](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/evane)\
**Post date:** [October 4, 2012, 11:04pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/school-me-on-news-groups/226379/8 "2012-10-04T23:04:21Z")

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> [@travisn](#):
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> So these have nothing to do with actual news?

No, once upon a time they where primarily a form of a discussion board, similar to BBS’s

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**Author:** ![boardjnky4](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/96bed5/32.png) [@boardjnky4](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/boardjnky4)\
**Post date:** [October 5, 2012, 4:05am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/school-me-on-news-groups/226379/9 "2012-10-05T04:05:18Z")

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> [@Willybeen](#):
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> Are they safer than torrents from a piracy standpoint? What about a quality files perspective?

They can be downloaded in SSL mode which is fully encrypted. So yes it is safer.

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**Author:** ![JayS](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/jays/32/15375_2.png) [@JayS](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/JayS)\
**Post date:** [October 5, 2012, 4:21am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/school-me-on-news-groups/226379/10 "2012-10-05T04:21:05Z")

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Everything evane said, except for his typo about upload ratios. Just to be clear, you never upload with newsgroups (unless you’re one of the groups putting out the ripped content).

I still haven’t done any automation on movies. I’ve got a couple saved searches I run every few days and just grab anything that looks interesting.

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**Author:** ![ProgRocker](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/progrocker/32/5434_2.png) [@ProgRocker](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/ProgRocker)\
**Post date:** [October 5, 2012, 5:51am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/school-me-on-news-groups/226379/11 "2012-10-05T05:51:01Z")

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These sites look absolutely awful as far as web design. I understand the whole BBS retro concept but come on.

I think WillyBean might have been referring to viruses? Perhaps. In which case SSL ain’t going to do shit. Use common sense, get a decent A/V, scan files beforehand.

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**Author:** ![JayS](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/jays/32/15375_2.png) [@JayS](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/JayS)\
**Post date:** [October 5, 2012, 5:53am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/school-me-on-news-groups/226379/12 "2012-10-05T05:53:29Z")

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The good thing about using indexing sites like nzbmatrix is there are so many users anything that has a legit virus gets commented on and removed.

Still, anytime I download something that requires I run a crack I run the crack in Sandboxie just to be safe.

**Oh, and it’s [http://nzbmatrix.com/](http://nzbmatrix.com/) not [nzbmatrix.org](http://nzbmatrix.org).**

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**Author:** ![itsJim](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/c67d28/32.png) [@itsJim](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/itsJim)\
**Post date:** [October 5, 2012, 6:08am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/school-me-on-news-groups/226379/13 "2012-10-05T06:08:06Z")

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Headphones for music… its good but not great

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**Author:** ![evane](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/6bbea6/32.png) [@evane](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/evane)\
**Post date:** [October 5, 2012, 6:19am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/school-me-on-news-groups/226379/14 "2012-10-05T06:19:25Z")

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> [@JayS](#):
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> Everything evane said, except for his typo about upload ratios. Just to be clear, you never upload with newsgroups (unless you’re one of the groups putting out the ripped content).
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> I still haven’t done any automation on movies. I’ve got a couple saved searches I run every few days and just grab anything that looks interesting.

Oops thanks for the catching the grammar typo… yea no uploading required at all.

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**Author:** ![ProgRocker](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/progrocker/32/5434_2.png) [@ProgRocker](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/ProgRocker)\
**Post date:** [May 14, 2013, 12:01pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/school-me-on-news-groups/226379/15 "2013-05-14T12:01:55Z")

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We have a couple different newsgroups threads on here. Found this deal and had to pass it along.

[http://www.newsgroupdirect.com/blog/2013/05/14/today-is-terabyte-tuesday-2/](http://www.newsgroupdirect.com/blog/2013/05/14/today-is-terabyte-tuesday-2/)

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**Author:** ![fairgentleman\_Z](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/fairgentleman_z/32/7263_2.png) [@fairgentleman\_Z](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/fairgentleman_Z)\
**Post date:** [May 15, 2013, 12:56pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/school-me-on-news-groups/226379/16 "2013-05-15T12:56:07Z")

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I am very ignorant on this subject. I have a few questions. There are a few music formats that I am interested in, SACD multichannel (5.1), BluRay Audio, and DVD-A. All in lossless if possible. I briefly searched and it seems that SACD is heavily protected, but it may be saved as DSD. Are these formats available?

Some specific titles (if anyone feels like searching):  
SACD - [http://www.amazon.com/Sea-Change-Beck/dp/B00007KMP1/ref=cm\_lmf\_tit\_1](http://www.amazon.com/Sea-Change-Beck/dp/B00007KMP1/ref=cm_lmf_tit_1)  
BluRay Audio - [http://www.amazon.com/Raven-Refused-Steven-Wilson-Blu-ray/dp/B00AQB2AR4/ref=sr\_sp-atf\_title\_1\_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1368647045&sr=8-1&keywords=steven+wilson+blu+ray](http://www.amazon.com/Raven-Refused-Steven-Wilson-Blu-ray/dp/B00AQB2AR4/ref=sr_sp-atf_title_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1368647045&sr=8-1&keywords=steven+wilson+blu+ray)  
DVD-A - [http://www.amazon.com/Porcupine-Tree-Deadwing/dp/B0007ZEBI0/ref=sr\_1\_1\_title\_2\_dvd?s=music&ie=UTF8&qid=1368647120&sr=1-1&keywords=porcupine+tree+dead+wing+dvd+audio](http://www.amazon.com/Porcupine-Tree-Deadwing/dp/B0007ZEBI0/ref=sr_1_1_title_2_dvd?s=music&ie=UTF8&qid=1368647120&sr=1-1&keywords=porcupine+tree+dead+wing+dvd+audio)

As you can see the prices are out of control for the rare (dead) formats.

I would assume that the file size for the SACD and DVD-A albums to be around 3 to 4 gig if lossless.

Next question, what would be a cheap way for a dedicated computer to use for acquisition and playback? I would want discrete 6 channel out so all the DA conversion is done by the comp.
