# School me on older WRXs and impreza outbacks

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**Category:** NYSpeed Automotive\
**Created:** [April 15, 2009, 12:12pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/school-me-on-older-wrxs-and-impreza-outbacks/66213 "2009-04-15T12:12:30Z")\
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**Author:** ![sureshot007](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/sureshot007/32/7345_2.png) [@sureshot007](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/sureshot007)\
**Post date:** [July 20, 2009, 1:09pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/school-me-on-older-wrxs-and-impreza-outbacks/66213/21 "2009-07-20T13:09:02Z")

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I get 23-24 mpg routinely. Standard Stage 2 setup will yield mid 13s. FMIC + STI turbo (and supporting mods) will get you into the 12s probably.

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**Post date:** [July 20, 2009, 1:22pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/school-me-on-older-wrxs-and-impreza-outbacks/66213/22 "2009-07-20T13:22:53Z")

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> [@sureshot007](#):
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> I get 23-24 mpg routinely. Standard Stage 2 setup will yield mid 13s. FMIC + STI turbo (and supporting mods) will get you into the 12s probably.

word Im assuming the 23-24 is the avg? hows the highway miles? and roughly how much am I looking at spending with the STI turbo and stage II setup? 2-3k?

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**Author:** ![chino](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/bcef8e/32.png) [@chino](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/chino)\
**Post date:** [July 20, 2009, 1:24pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/school-me-on-older-wrxs-and-impreza-outbacks/66213/23 "2009-07-20T13:24:49Z")

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do yourself a favor and pony up for 06+, more dispracement is more gooder…

seriously.

edit: or get an 04-05 sti… they are pretty cheap now a days.

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**Author:** ![sureshot007](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/sureshot007/32/7345_2.png) [@sureshot007](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/sureshot007)\
**Post date:** [July 20, 2009, 1:25pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/school-me-on-older-wrxs-and-impreza-outbacks/66213/24 "2009-07-20T13:25:24Z")

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Highway, if you do under 75mph with the cruise on, I have gotten closer to 30. Stay out of boost and you’ll be doing ok.

Stage 2 is just uppipe, downpipe, exhaust, intercooler hoses, remove some junk, and a flash. Depending on how cheap you want it be, it can be done for less than $600.

Used STI turbo, in good shape, will fetch $300ish. Then you need some other junk, fuel pump, injectors, yadda yadda yadda. See [nasioc.com](http://nasioc.com) for more info.

And +11billion on the 06+ being way better.

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**Author:** ![Pass\_McGass](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/pass_mcgass/32/7616_2.png) [@Pass\_McGass](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Pass_McGass)\
**Post date:** [July 20, 2009, 1:28pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/school-me-on-older-wrxs-and-impreza-outbacks/66213/25 "2009-07-20T13:28:10Z")

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> [@theblue](#):
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> personally, I’d be looking at a saab version of this car.

I agree.

Especially if your friend is going for a more professional image. Not that the Subarus are ridic unprofessional, but the Saab’s have a more “grown up” skin.

I like mine.

![http://i32.photobucket.com/albums/d7/libtch151/WGSaab.jpg](http://i32.photobucket.com/albums/d7/libtch151/WGSaab.jpg)

dooooit

edit- er, tell your friend to dooooit

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**Post date:** [July 20, 2009, 2:15pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/school-me-on-older-wrxs-and-impreza-outbacks/66213/26 "2009-07-20T14:15:13Z")

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If you can swing it. I bought a 08wrx 5 door. I love it. has good power down low. I am averaging about 22 city. My only gripe is the paint does not stay on the car.

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**Post date:** [July 20, 2009, 2:17pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/school-me-on-older-wrxs-and-impreza-outbacks/66213/27 "2009-07-20T14:17:39Z")

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> [@sureshot007](#):
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> Highway, if you do under 75mph with the cruise on, I have gotten closer to 30. Stay out of boost and you’ll be doing ok.
> 
> Stage 2 is just uppipe, downpipe, exhaust, intercooler hoses, remove some junk, and a flash. Depending on how cheap you want it be, it can be done for less than $600.
> 
> Used STI turbo, in good shape, will fetch $300ish. Then you need some other junk, fuel pump, injectors, yadda yadda yadda. See [nasioc.com](http://nasioc.com) for more info.
> 
> And +11billion on the 06+ being way better.

I dont want to cheap out on parts, does that include cats?

> [@chino](#):
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> do yourself a favor and pony up for 06+, more dispracement is more gooder…
> 
> seriously.
> 
> edit: or get an 04-05 sti… they are pretty cheap now a days.

I am looking at the 04-05. whatever I buy needs to cost at least 5k less than what I sell the Camaro for (15.5k or so), if I sell it. I don’t want to have a car payment since I am going back to school. Realistically Ide like to spend around 8k but I could go as high as 10 or 12, the more money I have left over the better really.

> [@Pass McGass](#):
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> I agree.
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> Especially if your friend is going for a more professional image. Not that the Subarus are ridic unprofessional, but the Saab’s have a more “grown up” skin.
> 
> I like mine.
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> ![http://i32.photobucket.com/albums/d7/libtch151/WGSaab.jpg](https://canada1.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/uploads/speedlife/original/3X/e/a/ea4c8c151077d35801782d91ba1f51396c833f19.jpeg)
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> dooooit
> 
> edit- er, tell your friend to dooooit

I really wish Saab made a sedan version.

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**Post date:** [July 21, 2009, 8:24am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/school-me-on-older-wrxs-and-impreza-outbacks/66213/28 "2009-07-21T08:24:05Z")

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> [@FBodyMadnezz](#):
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> I am looking at the 04-05. Realistically Ide like to spend around 8k.

not gonna happen

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**Post date:** [July 21, 2009, 8:25am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/school-me-on-older-wrxs-and-impreza-outbacks/66213/29 "2009-07-21T08:25:58Z")

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- Cats sold separately

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**Post date:** [July 21, 2009, 8:46am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/school-me-on-older-wrxs-and-impreza-outbacks/66213/30 "2009-07-21T08:46:03Z")

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> [@Jim1234664](#):
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> not gonna happen

the 2.5rs’s, autos, and wagons seem to be that cheap, the ones im looking at are more towards 11k.

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**Post date:** [July 21, 2009, 8:54am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/school-me-on-older-wrxs-and-impreza-outbacks/66213/31 "2009-07-21T08:54:32Z")

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just buy one pre-modded… otherwise no way you’re going to get a 12 second WRX for near 10k

if you want one un-modded and want it to be remotely decent you’ve got to go 06+

that 2.0 liter (in the us market) is just such a puss platform

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**Post date:** [July 21, 2009, 9:41am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/school-me-on-older-wrxs-and-impreza-outbacks/66213/32 "2009-07-21T09:41:26Z")

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> [@chino](#):
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> just buy one pre-modded… otherwise no way you’re going to get a 12 second WRX for near 10k
> 
> if you want one un-modded and want it to be remotely decent you’ve got to go 06+
> 
> that 2.0 liter (in the us market) is just such a puss platform

what is different motor/drivetrain wise between the 04/05 and 06/07? is it the same 2.5L motor just turboed?

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**Post date:** [July 21, 2009, 10:00am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/school-me-on-older-wrxs-and-impreza-outbacks/66213/33 "2009-07-21T10:00:05Z")

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another annoying thing about these cars that I forgot…

the window seals and the mirrors make a ton of annoying noises on the highway.

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**Post date:** [July 21, 2009, 10:09am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/school-me-on-older-wrxs-and-impreza-outbacks/66213/34 "2009-07-21T10:09:43Z")

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> [@FBodyMadnezz](#):
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> what is different motor/drivetrain wise between the 04/05 and 06/07? is it the same 2.5L motor just turboed?

They just upped the displacement from 2.0 to 2.5L

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**Post date:** [July 21, 2009, 10:51am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/school-me-on-older-wrxs-and-impreza-outbacks/66213/35 "2009-07-21T10:51:23Z")

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> [@sureshot007](#):
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> They just upped the displacement from 2.0 to 2.5L

is it the same 2.5 that is in the N/A RS models is what I am curious about, I should have been more specific.

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**Post date:** [July 21, 2009, 10:52am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/school-me-on-older-wrxs-and-impreza-outbacks/66213/36 "2009-07-21T10:52:54Z")

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RS = EJ251 or EJ253  
WRX = EJ255  
STI = EJ257

Moral of the story, no.

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**Post date:** [July 21, 2009, 10:56am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/school-me-on-older-wrxs-and-impreza-outbacks/66213/37 "2009-07-21T10:56:00Z")

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> [@sureshot007](#):
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> RS = EJ251 or EJ253  
> WRX = EJ255  
> STI = EJ257
> 
> Moral of the story, no.

k thanks for being so helpful, Idk shit about these cars, Ill have to spend some time on NASIOC.

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