# School me on quad core processors v build me a rig **URL:** \ **Category:** NYSpeed Off Topic\ **Created:** [August 12, 2007, 7:18pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/school-me-on-quad-core-processors-v-build-me-a-rig/33794 "2007-08-12T19:18:19Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 5
**Author:** ![RuBiCaNT](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/rubicant/32/7622_2.png) [@RuBiCaNT](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/RuBiCaNT)\ **Post date:** [August 14, 2007, 10:30pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/school-me-on-quad-core-processors-v-build-me-a-rig/33794/81 "2007-08-14T22:30:43Z")
[quote=“Marcus,post:78,topic:33794"”] Until their 4-core processor is released. Just wait and see…AMD is slashing their Dual Core processor prices by 45%+. People will buy. [/quote] And?? What is that going to do for them? Do you know how much a quad-core processor makes up as far as % of processors sold? Not very much. So IF this thing is released and it smokes the competition (which it won’t, it will be slightly better if anything), how many average joes are going to be buying these quad-core processors? Not enough to turn the tide for AMD. Desktop CPUs are what keeps companies like Intel in business because that is the majority of their business. Marcus, do you know anything about economics? I mean, seriously, let’s look at this from a pricing standpoint. If you sell your CPU LOWER than you have ever done before, you are not going to be taking as much profit home. AMD has not changed their manufacturing techniques, they do not have a magic CPU making machine that has no costs. So AMD is selling dirt cheap CPU’s and they will probably sell more since the price for consumers and retailers are now less. AMD has to figure out a way for people to buy their processors when they are not drastically lower than Intel or figure out a way to magically make CPUs. Here is a good example of what I am talking about… [http://www.overclockers.com/tips01194/](http://www.overclockers.com/tips01194/) :picard: ---
**Author:** ![itsJim](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/c67d28/32.png) [@itsJim](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/itsJim)\ **Post date:** [August 15, 2007, 7:04am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/school-me-on-quad-core-processors-v-build-me-a-rig/33794/82 "2007-08-15T07:04:18Z")
[quote=“RuBiCaNT,post:81,topic:33794"”] Desktop CPUs are what keeps companies like Intel in business because that is the majority of their business. [/quote] I’m pretty sure deals with Dell, HP, etc is what keeps companies like Intel in business… ---
**Author:** ![JoesTypeS](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/joestypes/32/7190_2.png) [@JoesTypeS](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/JoesTypeS)\ **Post date:** [August 15, 2007, 7:11am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/school-me-on-quad-core-processors-v-build-me-a-rig/33794/83 "2007-08-15T07:11:07Z")
[quote=“itsJim,post:82,topic:33794"”] I’m pretty sure deals with Dell, HP, etc is what keeps companies like Intel in business… [/quote] Dell sells AMD machines… ---
**Author:** ![itsJim](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/c67d28/32.png) [@itsJim](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/itsJim)\ **Post date:** [August 15, 2007, 8:16am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/school-me-on-quad-core-processors-v-build-me-a-rig/33794/84 "2007-08-15T08:16:31Z")
They only recently just started selling AMD machines. They were Intel only for the longest time, and the majority of their line up is still Intel only ---
**Author:** ![Daddie](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/daddie/32/7621_2.png) [@Daddie](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Daddie)\ **Post date:** [August 15, 2007, 8:25am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/school-me-on-quad-core-processors-v-build-me-a-rig/33794/85 "2007-08-15T08:25:47Z")
Unless you’re going to be running some crazy ass VMWare machine - You’re really not going to see the true performance potential of a quadcore… that, and you’ll be paying out of the ass for it. ---
**Author:** ![Nikuk](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/nikuk/32/7254_2.png) [@Nikuk](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Nikuk)\ **Post date:** [August 15, 2007, 8:31am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/school-me-on-quad-core-processors-v-build-me-a-rig/33794/86 "2007-08-15T08:31:23Z")
[quote=“itsJim,post:84,topic:33794"”] They only recently just started selling AMD machines. They were Intel only for the longest time, and the majority of their line up is still Intel only [/quote] nearly a 50/50 split. And by recently, I assume that you mean \>6 months ago… 👏 Lastly, WTF happened to this thread? :lol: :deadhorse: Krazy - You don’t need a QC, hardly anyone does for a **P** C ---
**Author:** ![Locutus](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/locutus/32/7574_2.png) [@Locutus](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Locutus)\ **Post date:** [August 15, 2007, 6:38pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/school-me-on-quad-core-processors-v-build-me-a-rig/33794/87 "2007-08-15T18:38:33Z")
im going to buy 4 quads and run 16 cores thoughts? ---
**Author:** ![Nikuk](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/nikuk/32/7254_2.png) [@Nikuk](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Nikuk)\ **Post date:** [August 15, 2007, 6:44pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/school-me-on-quad-core-processors-v-build-me-a-rig/33794/88 "2007-08-15T18:44:49Z")
[quote=“Locutus,post:87,topic:33794"”] thoughts? [/quote] for the money, you could get more use on :suckoff: ---
**Author:** ![dozr](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/41988e/32.png) [@dozr](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/dozr)\ **Post date:** [August 15, 2007, 8:25pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/school-me-on-quad-core-processors-v-build-me-a-rig/33794/89 "2007-08-15T20:25:08Z")
MMM VMWare IPO, if only… ---
**Author:** ![RuBiCaNT](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/rubicant/32/7622_2.png) [@RuBiCaNT](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/RuBiCaNT)\ **Post date:** [August 16, 2007, 6:05am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/school-me-on-quad-core-processors-v-build-me-a-rig/33794/90 "2007-08-16T06:05:55Z")
Oh noes!! Looks like the intial release speed for Barcelona is 1.9ghz… SMOKIN’ FAST… [http://www.overclockers.com/tips01201/](http://www.overclockers.com/tips01201/) > **[TheINQUIRER - news, reviews and opinion for tech buffs](https://www.theinquirer.net/?article=41703)** > > TheINQUIRER publishes daily news, reviews on the latest gadgets and devices, and INQdepth articles for tech buffs and hobbyists. ---
**Author:** ![boardjnky4](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/96bed5/32.png) [@boardjnky4](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/boardjnky4)\ **Post date:** [August 16, 2007, 6:12am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/school-me-on-quad-core-processors-v-build-me-a-rig/33794/91 "2007-08-16T06:12:45Z")
tho im not in any way sticking up for AMD…Judging proccesors by clock speeds is just plain wrong ---
**Author:** ![itsJim](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/c67d28/32.png) [@itsJim](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/itsJim)\ **Post date:** [August 16, 2007, 6:47am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/school-me-on-quad-core-processors-v-build-me-a-rig/33794/92 "2007-08-16T06:47:24Z")
[quote=“boardjnky4,post:91,topic:33794"”] tho im not in any way sticking up for AMD…Judging proccesors by clock speeds is just plain wrong [/quote] :word: ---
**Author:** ![RuBiCaNT](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/rubicant/32/7622_2.png) [@RuBiCaNT](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/RuBiCaNT)\ **Post date:** [August 16, 2007, 7:19am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/school-me-on-quad-core-processors-v-build-me-a-rig/33794/93 "2007-08-16T07:19:08Z")
[quote=“boardjnky4,post:91,topic:33794"”] tho im not in any way sticking up for AMD…Judging proccesors by clock speeds is just plain wrong [/quote] And I agree with you but recent data has shown that Barcenlona needs to be in the upper 2ghz range to be competative with C2D… ---
**Author:** ![boardjnky4](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/96bed5/32.png) [@boardjnky4](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/boardjnky4)\ **Post date:** [August 16, 2007, 7:48am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/school-me-on-quad-core-processors-v-build-me-a-rig/33794/94 "2007-08-16T07:48:22Z")
fair enough. i dont really follow any of that stuff enough to have known that. ---
**Author:** ![itsJim](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/c67d28/32.png) [@itsJim](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/itsJim)\ **Post date:** [August 16, 2007, 7:49am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/school-me-on-quad-core-processors-v-build-me-a-rig/33794/95 "2007-08-16T07:49:08Z")
Link to “recent data?” ---
**Author:** ![RuBiCaNT](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/rubicant/32/7622_2.png) [@RuBiCaNT](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/RuBiCaNT)\ **Post date:** [August 16, 2007, 7:53am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/school-me-on-quad-core-processors-v-build-me-a-rig/33794/96 "2007-08-16T07:53:26Z")
[quote=“itsJim,post:95,topic:33794"”] Link to “recent data?” [/quote] [http://www.overclockers.com/tips01164/](http://www.overclockers.com/tips01164/) ---
**Author:** ![itsJim](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/c67d28/32.png) [@itsJim](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/itsJim)\ **Post date:** [August 16, 2007, 8:04am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/school-me-on-quad-core-processors-v-build-me-a-rig/33794/97 "2007-08-16T08:04:26Z")
Isn’t Barcelona for servers and Phenom for desktops? Why are we talking about server cpu’s now? I’m confused ---
**Author:** ![RuBiCaNT](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/rubicant/32/7622_2.png) [@RuBiCaNT](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/RuBiCaNT)\ **Post date:** [August 16, 2007, 8:12am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/school-me-on-quad-core-processors-v-build-me-a-rig/33794/98 "2007-08-16T08:12:31Z")
[quote=“itsJim,post:97,topic:33794"”] Isn’t Barcelona for servers and Phenom for desktops? Why are we talking about server cpu’s now? I’m confused [/quote] Are the numbers going to be that different?? If anything the Phenom numbers are going to be lower since because of cache sizes, etc… ---
**Author:** ![itsJim](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/c67d28/32.png) [@itsJim](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/itsJim)\ **Post date:** [August 16, 2007, 8:53am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/school-me-on-quad-core-processors-v-build-me-a-rig/33794/99 "2007-08-16T08:53:58Z")
Yes. They are clocked up to 2.8Ghz > **[AMD Phenom](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Phenom_(processor))** > > Phenom /fɪˈnɒm/ is the 64-bit AMD desktop processor line based on the K10 microarchitecture, in what AMD calls family 10h (10 hex, i.e. 16 in normal decimal numbers) processors, sometimes incorrectly called "K10h". Triple-core versions (codenamed Toliman) belong to the Phenom 8000 series and quad cores (codenamed Agena) to the AMD Phenom X4 9000 series. The first processor in the family was released in 2007. AMD considers the quad core Phenoms to be the first "true" quad core design, as these p... ---
**Author:** ![Daddie](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/daddie/32/7621_2.png) [@Daddie](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Daddie)\ **Post date:** [August 16, 2007, 9:02am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/school-me-on-quad-core-processors-v-build-me-a-rig/33794/100 "2007-08-16T09:02:09Z")
[quote=“dozr,post:89,topic:33794"”] MMM VMWare IPO, if only… [/quote] … our company bought more of it? 😛 [Previous page](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/school-me-on-quad-core-processors-v-build-me-a-rig/33794.md?page=4) [Next page](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/school-me-on-quad-core-processors-v-build-me-a-rig/33794.md?page=6)