# School Shooting in CT **URL:** \ **Category:** PolitiSUCK\ **Created:** [December 14, 2012, 9:55am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/school-shooting-in-ct/227754 "2012-12-14T09:55:56Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 15
**Author:** ![Beck](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/beck/32/28683_2.png) [@Beck](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Beck)\ **Post date:** [December 18, 2012, 7:45am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/school-shooting-in-ct/227754/281 "2012-12-18T07:45:39Z")
> [@theblue](#): > > and as part of this we have to understand that sometimes you can’t do anything and bad things will happen. Spending unlimited resources to catch a couple crazy people who will just find another way won’t really work. It sucks, but in life you can’t insure against everything. I don’t know if I want kids, but if I have them I will understand that; There are pedophiles, kidnappers, killers, drunk drivers and kids their own age that might take them out. Just be the best person you can be to them, protect them with your life and teach them to be the same and act the same towards others. That’s it. Banning assault rifles isn’t going to change that. ---
**Author:** ![ProgRocker](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/progrocker/32/5434_2.png) [@ProgRocker](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/ProgRocker)\ **Post date:** [December 18, 2012, 7:46am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/school-shooting-in-ct/227754/282 "2012-12-18T07:46:51Z")
As of 2009-2010 There were ~140,000 schools (elementary through college). ([SOURCE](http://nces.ed.gov/fastfacts/display.asp?id=84)) ---
**Author:** ![Beck](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/beck/32/28683_2.png) [@Beck](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Beck)\ **Post date:** [December 18, 2012, 7:47am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/school-shooting-in-ct/227754/283 "2012-12-18T07:47:53Z")
> [@Fry](#): > > So what is there, 1 school shooting every 10 years? > > As of the 2002 census there were 13,500 school districts in the US. Assume each one has primary, elementary, middle, and high school. That makes for 54,000 schools in the country. > > Any given kid is in the school district for 13 years. So there would be 13/10 school shootings in the US in any given kid’s school career. 1.3 shootings/54,000 schools = .000024% chance of a shooting at your kid’s school during their career. > > Obviously these are very rough numbers but it serves the point. Designing laws or buildings specifically for this is time and money that could be spent protecting kids from much greater risks. How about safer playgrounds that still let the kids develop gross motor skills, self confidence, and social skills? More discussions about performance based pay for teachers? Pay teachers more on a whole? Smaller classrooms? Mental health education? > > lol .000024% of kids are likely to see a school shooting, but according to the CDC 11% of people over the age of 12 are on antidepressants. Yet we talk about gun control. There are 16,500,000 high schoolers in America. That represents 1/3rd of the school grades. 16,500,000 x 3 = 49.5 million. The percentage is more miniscule if you included every college in the US. ---
**Author:** ![JayS](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/jays/32/15375_2.png) [@JayS](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/JayS)\ **Post date:** [December 18, 2012, 8:00am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/school-shooting-in-ct/227754/284 "2012-12-18T08:00:22Z")
> [@Fry](#): > > Why do you need an armed guard at an elementary school in Amherst? My point was’t that I want an armed guard. The point was locking the door and sticking an unarmed chick behind a glass door in response to a shooting in another state where a well armed insane person shot his way into a school is just a retarded waste of time and resources for the sake of pretending you’re doing something about security. ---
**Author:** ![Fry](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/fry/32/7284_2.png) [@Fry](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Fry)\ **Post date:** [December 18, 2012, 8:02am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/school-shooting-in-ct/227754/285 "2012-12-18T08:02:12Z")
> [@ProgRocker](#): > > As of 2009-2010 There were ~140,000 schools (elementary through college). ([SOURCE](http://nces.ed.gov/fastfacts/display.asp?id=84)) Sweet. Lets add some accuracy. 98817 public schools + 33366 private schools + 4495 degree granting colleges = 136678 schools in the US. (I excluded the non-degree granting institutions. There’s no glory in shooting up a trade school so it doesn’t happen.) From 2003 to 2012 there were 69 school shootings. [Source](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_school_shootings_in_the_United_States) Almost none of which were mass shootings, some didn’t even have fatalities, but we’ll use this number anways rather than trying to categorize the shootings. 69 times in the last 10 years someone in a school pulled the trigger of a gun. 69/10 = 6.9 shootings/year. 6.9/136678 = .00005 shootings/school/year. If your kid goes to K-12 + a bachelors degree = 17 years in school. .00005 \* 17 = .00086% chance of any given student being at a school that has a shooting of any kind in their lifetime. ---
**Author:** ![LZ1](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/7ab992/32.png) [@LZ1](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/LZ1)\ **Post date:** [December 18, 2012, 8:05am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/school-shooting-in-ct/227754/286 "2012-12-18T08:05:24Z")
Now you just need a way to work in the effectiveness of an assault weapons ban since rifle deaths in the US in 2011 was 3XX School children will be much safer ---
**Author:** ![slo\_ride](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/49beb7/32.png) [@slo\_ride](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/slo_ride)\ **Post date:** [December 18, 2012, 8:09am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/school-shooting-in-ct/227754/287 "2012-12-18T08:09:17Z")
perhaps the anti-gun folks should take a page from the auto industry. highlight guns like the AR-15 as “hallow weapons” that despite their relative rarity and lack of participation in most crimes create a general sense of allure and assualt-iness to all other guns out there… ---
**Author:** ![Fry](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/fry/32/7284_2.png) [@Fry](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Fry)\ **Post date:** [December 18, 2012, 8:10am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/school-shooting-in-ct/227754/288 "2012-12-18T08:10:56Z")
I’ve tried. Gun control statistics are nearly impossible to find any meaning in. Too many confounding variables. There does seem to be a pretty decent correlation between the stock market and the rates of violent crime. It’s almost like if the economy is doing well and people can make a living then they have better things to do than kill each other. But that’s crazy talk. ---------- Post added at 11:10 AM ---------- Previous post was at 11:10 AM ---------- > [@slo ride](#): > > perhaps the anti-gun folks should take a page from the auto industry. highlight guns like the AR-15 as “hallow weapons” that despite their relative rarity and lack of participation in most crimes create a general sense of allure and assualt-iness to all other guns out there… The fuck did you just say? ---
**Author:** ![LZ1](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/7ab992/32.png) [@LZ1](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/LZ1)\ **Post date:** [December 18, 2012, 8:22am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/school-shooting-in-ct/227754/289 "2012-12-18T08:22:43Z")
Trolling anti gun people is hilarious “All guns do is kill people” “Weird didn’t the olympics feature shooting as a sport” Then they have a melt down and back pedal ---
**Author:** ![Beck](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/beck/32/28683_2.png) [@Beck](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Beck)\ **Post date:** [December 18, 2012, 8:40am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/school-shooting-in-ct/227754/290 "2012-12-18T08:40:28Z")
> [@Fry](#): > > Sweet. Lets add some accuracy. 98817 public schools + 33366 private schools + 4495 degree granting colleges = 136678 schools in the US. (I excluded the non-degree granting institutions. There’s no glory in shooting up a trade school so it doesn’t happen.) > > From 2003 to 2012 there were 69 school shootings. [Source](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_school_shootings_in_the_United_States) Almost none of which were mass shootings, some didn’t even have fatalities, but we’ll use this number anways rather than trying to categorize the shootings. 69 times in the last 10 years someone in a school pulled the trigger of a gun. > > 69/10 = 6.9 shootings/year. 6.9/136678 = .00005 shootings/school/year. > > If your kid goes to K-12 + a bachelors degree = 17 years in school. > > .00005 \* 17 = .00086% chance of any given student being at a school that has a shooting of any kind in their lifetime. You’re lucky my mother isn’t on this board. She’s a 50-something upper-middle class woman with a facebook account. Don’t try to use logic with her, no sir ree. Fabricated stories about heroism are the only things on her wall. ---
**Author:** ![Fry](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/fry/32/7284_2.png) [@Fry](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Fry)\ **Post date:** [December 18, 2012, 8:42am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/school-shooting-in-ct/227754/291 "2012-12-18T08:42:58Z")
lol that’s pretty typical. We’re emotional creatures. :shrug: ---
**Author:** ![superfan99](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/96bed5/32.png) [@superfan99](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/superfan99)\ **Post date:** [December 18, 2012, 8:48am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/school-shooting-in-ct/227754/292 "2012-12-18T08:48:52Z")
> [@LZ](#): > > Trolling anti gun people is hilarious > > “All guns do is kill people” > > “Weird didn’t the olympics feature shooting as a sport” > > Then they have a melt down and back pedal There’s always the argument for people that use them as tools or to protect their livelihood, such as farmers. ---
**Author:** ![Doespike](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/doespike/32/5083_2.png) [@Doespike](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Doespike)\ **Post date:** [December 18, 2012, 8:49am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/school-shooting-in-ct/227754/293 "2012-12-18T08:49:29Z")
Yeah, you would have lost most people at the second 5-digit number… ---
**Author:** ![Fry](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/fry/32/7284_2.png) [@Fry](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Fry)\ **Post date:** [December 18, 2012, 8:51am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/school-shooting-in-ct/227754/294 "2012-12-18T08:51:49Z")
I find that most people are immune to data. Sent from my SCH-I535 using Tapatalk 2 ---
**Author:** ![ProgRocker](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/progrocker/32/5434_2.png) [@ProgRocker](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/ProgRocker)\ **Post date:** [December 18, 2012, 8:57am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/school-shooting-in-ct/227754/295 "2012-12-18T08:57:48Z")
> [@Beck](#): > > You’re lucky my mother isn’t on this board. She’s a 50-something upper-middle class woman with a facebook account. Don’t try to use logic with her, no sir ree. Fabricated stories about heroism are the only things on her wall. If it’s in the form of a pixilated inspirational picture…it’s gotta be true. ---
**Author:** ![BOBBYGRV](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/ed8c4c/32.png) [@BOBBYGRV](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/BOBBYGRV)\ **Post date:** [December 18, 2012, 10:12am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/school-shooting-in-ct/227754/296 "2012-12-18T10:12:34Z")
> [@Fry](#): > > Sweet. Lets add some accuracy. 98817 public schools + 33366 private schools + 4495 degree granting colleges = 136678 schools in the US. (I excluded the non-degree granting institutions. There’s no glory in shooting up a trade school so it doesn’t happen.) > > From 2003 to 2012 there were 69 school shootings. [Source](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_school_shootings_in_the_United_States) Almost none of which were mass shootings, some didn’t even have fatalities, but we’ll use this number anways rather than trying to categorize the shootings. 69 times in the last 10 years someone in a school pulled the trigger of a gun. > > 69/10 = 6.9 shootings/year. 6.9/136678 = .00005 shootings/school/year. > > If your kid goes to K-12 + a bachelors degree = 17 years in school. > > .00005 \* 17 = .00086% chance of any given student being at a school that has a shooting of any kind in their lifetime. This makes me laugh. This probably would have taken me a week to figure out. The fact that you probably just whipped this up in a matter of minutes annnnnnd your probably at work makes it even better. ---
**Author:** ![1QIKZ](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/1qikz/32/6112_2.png) [@1QIKZ](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/1QIKZ)\ **Post date:** [December 18, 2012, 10:38am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/school-shooting-in-ct/227754/297 "2012-12-18T10:38:35Z")
> [@LZ](#): > > Trolling anti gun people is hilarious > > “All guns do is kill people” > > “Weird didn’t the olympics feature shooting as a sport” > > Then they have a melt down and back pedal Funny, I don’t remember anyone crying when guns killed Bin Laden just a little while back. or any of his henchmen for that matter. Guess guns are OK when they work for the good, and not so for the bad. Maybe we should arm our Navy Seals and Special Forces personnel with whiffle bats and silly string on their next mission. I want to see how this next round of legislation goes and what effect it has on these types of events. We all know the answer already but I want to have someone show the numbers to the anti-gunners after it all plays out and see what they say then. ---
**Author:** ![theblue](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/theblue/32/5074_2.png) [@theblue](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/theblue)\ **Post date:** [December 18, 2012, 11:09am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/school-shooting-in-ct/227754/298 "2012-12-18T11:09:48Z")
I wonder why you never heard people complaining about the military having guns? that’s so strange, I wonder why not??? ---
**Author:** ![tpgsr](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/tpgsr/32/7374_2.png) [@tpgsr](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/tpgsr)\ **Post date:** [December 18, 2012, 11:21am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/school-shooting-in-ct/227754/299 "2012-12-18T11:21:48Z")
> [@theblue](#): > > I wonder why you never heard people complaining about the military having guns? that’s so strange, I wonder why not??? IF i was not allowed to be armed you better bet that I would be complaining about the military having guns. To which I would probably be executed for dissent against the all knowing government. ---
**Author:** ![1QIKZ](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/1qikz/32/6112_2.png) [@1QIKZ](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/1QIKZ)\ **Post date:** [December 18, 2012, 11:45am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/school-shooting-in-ct/227754/300 "2012-12-18T11:45:22Z")
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