# School Shooting in CT **URL:** \ **Category:** PolitiSUCK\ **Created:** [December 14, 2012, 9:55am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/school-shooting-in-ct/227754 "2012-12-14T09:55:56Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 16
**Author:** ![piratemosh666](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/piratemosh666/32/6116_2.png) [@piratemosh666](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/piratemosh666)\ **Post date:** [December 18, 2012, 11:47am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/school-shooting-in-ct/227754/301 "2012-12-18T11:47:53Z")
> [@Fry](#): > > I find that most people are immune to data. > > Sent from my SCH-I535 using Tapatalk 2 Most religious people, anyway. ---
**Author:** ![Dekar12](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/41988e/32.png) [@Dekar12](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Dekar12)\ **Post date:** [December 18, 2012, 12:47pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/school-shooting-in-ct/227754/302 "2012-12-18T12:47:30Z")
> [@Fry](#): > > Sweet. Lets add some accuracy. 98817 public schools + 33366 private schools + 4495 degree granting colleges = 136678 schools in the US. (I excluded the non-degree granting institutions. There’s no glory in shooting up a trade school so it doesn’t happen.) > > From 2003 to 2012 there were 69 school shootings. [Source](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_school_shootings_in_the_United_States) Almost none of which were mass shootings, some didn’t even have fatalities, but we’ll use this number anways rather than trying to categorize the shootings. 69 times in the last 10 years someone in a school pulled the trigger of a gun. > > 69/10 = 6.9 shootings/year. 6.9/136678 = .00005 shootings/school/year. > > If your kid goes to K-12 + a bachelors degree = 17 years in school. > > .00005 \* 17 = .00086% chance of any given student being at a school that has a shooting of any kind in their lifetime. Don’t you think .00086% is just too great? We should close all the schools, clearly if there were no schools there would not no more children shot at schools… Someone run some numbers on this, but I will bet $5 that you are more likely to die in a car accident in a 17 year period then be involved in a school shooting. ---
**Author:** ![theblue](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/theblue/32/5074_2.png) [@theblue](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/theblue)\ **Post date:** [December 18, 2012, 12:48pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/school-shooting-in-ct/227754/303 "2012-12-18T12:48:57Z")
> [@tpgsr](#): > > IF i was not allowed to be armed you better bet that I would be complaining about the military having guns. To which I would probably be executed for dissent against the all knowing government. IF pigs could fly… and so on. Bottom line is trying to make some analogy involving people saying the military should not have guns is the most insane thing I’ve read on since the shootings. nobody is saying that, the argument is invalid. ---
**Author:** ![tpgsr](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/tpgsr/32/7374_2.png) [@tpgsr](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/tpgsr)\ **Post date:** [December 18, 2012, 1:06pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/school-shooting-in-ct/227754/304 "2012-12-18T13:06:02Z")
> [@theblue](#): > > IF pigs could fly… and so on. Bottom line is trying to make some analogy involving people saying the military should not have guns is the most insane thing I’ve read on since the shootings. nobody is saying that, the argument is invalid. people saying **PEOPLE** should not have guns is the most insane thing I’ve read on since the shootings. **JACKASS LIBERALS ARE** saying that, the argument is invalid. I agree that the military analogy is not correct, but gun laws are not a solution to this problem. ---
**Author:** ![Blue\_Eyed\_Devil](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/blue_eyed_devil/32/7292_2.png) [@Blue\_Eyed\_Devil](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Blue_Eyed_Devil)\ **Post date:** [December 18, 2012, 1:13pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/school-shooting-in-ct/227754/305 "2012-12-18T13:13:52Z")
What percentage of school shooters were on meds? It is probably close to 100%. There are tons of kids with problems but the shooters seem to have more problems from the drugs. When the side effects of anti-depressants are suicidal thoughts, etc, you have got to wonder. just sayin. Edit: Or if you stop taking the drugs they make you want to kill. ---
**Author:** ![theblue](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/theblue/32/5074_2.png) [@theblue](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/theblue)\ **Post date:** [December 18, 2012, 1:25pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/school-shooting-in-ct/227754/306 "2012-12-18T13:25:05Z")
> [@tpgsr](#): > > people saying **PEOPLE** should not have guns is the most insane thing I’ve read on since the shootings. **JACKASS LIBERALS ARE** saying that, the argument is invalid. > > I agree that the military analogy is not correct, but gun laws are not a solution to this problem. There are more gun rights activists saying “liberals” want to ban guns than “actual liberals” who want to ban them I’m a moderate, I don’t want to ban guns. But do think it’s utterly insane that in the majority of states a private person can sell a gun to anybody with a handshake and no paperwork. ---
**Author:** ![superfan99](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/96bed5/32.png) [@superfan99](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/superfan99)\ **Post date:** [December 18, 2012, 1:30pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/school-shooting-in-ct/227754/307 "2012-12-18T13:30:55Z")
James Alan Fox has a couple of pretty good blog posts on the issue. He’s widely considered to be the nations premier expert when it comes to mass shootings. [http://boston.com/community/blogs/crime\_punishment/2012/12/preventing\_mass\_murder\_no\_easy.html](http://boston.com/community/blogs/crime_punishment/2012/12/preventing_mass_murder_no_easy.html) and [http://boston.com/community/blogs/crime\_punishment/2012/12/mass\_murder\_--\_horrible\_enough.html](http://boston.com/community/blogs/crime_punishment/2012/12/mass_murder_--_horrible_enough.html) I think that it’s a good read regardless of which side of the gun control debate that you’re on. ---------- Post added at 04:30 PM ---------- Previous post was at 04:26 PM ---------- > [@theblue](#): > > There are more gun rights activists saying “liberals” want to ban guns than “actual liberals” who want to ban them > > I’m a moderate, I don’t want to ban guns. But do think it’s utterly insane that in the majority of states a private person can sell a gun to anybody with a handshake and no paperwork. I think part of the issue is that for many, the second they hear “Gun Control” they assume it means someone is gonna come take their guns away. I think there are plenty of ways that we could implement reasonable gun control laws, that would have no real affect on the average, reasonable, and responsible gun owner. ---
**Author:** ![tpgsr](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/tpgsr/32/7374_2.png) [@tpgsr](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/tpgsr)\ **Post date:** [December 18, 2012, 1:31pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/school-shooting-in-ct/227754/308 "2012-12-18T13:31:57Z")
> [@theblue](#): > > There are more gun rights activists saying “liberals” want to ban guns than “actual liberals” who want to ban them > > I’m a moderate, I don’t want to ban guns. But do think it’s utterly insane that in the majority of states a private person can sell a gun to anybody with a handshake and no paperwork. Ok, sorry. I have been jaded by some of the people on my facebook. I am along the same line of thought as you are I guess. ---
**Author:** ![theblue](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/theblue/32/5074_2.png) [@theblue](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/theblue)\ **Post date:** [December 18, 2012, 1:33pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/school-shooting-in-ct/227754/309 "2012-12-18T13:33:27Z")
“Mass killers do not just snap and seize whatever weapons of destruction are handy. They are deliberate and determined; they will find the means despite the impediments placed in their path.” - James Alan Fox Not this time… this time the kid with asperger’s syndrome was probably angry his mom wouldn’t let him play nintendo or something trivial and went nuts as is typical. He lacks the ability to plan something out in detail I would suspect. Getting the kid help is a great idea… A better idea is no give him access to guns. ---
**Author:** ![1QIKZ](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/1qikz/32/6112_2.png) [@1QIKZ](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/1QIKZ)\ **Post date:** [December 18, 2012, 1:44pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/school-shooting-in-ct/227754/310 "2012-12-18T13:44:35Z")
Just heard on 107.7 (not saying this is 100% true as they fucked up info. on this from the start) the motive behind this was that his mother was planning on having him committed. Shocker. Maybe in the future you don’t mention that to the “committee” before you actually commit them. ---
**Author:** ![Fry](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/fry/32/7284_2.png) [@Fry](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Fry)\ **Post date:** [December 18, 2012, 1:51pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/school-shooting-in-ct/227754/311 "2012-12-18T13:51:36Z")
> [@theblue](#): > > Not this time… this time the kid with asperger’s syndrome was probably angry his mom wouldn’t let him play nintendo or something trivial and went nuts as is typical. He lacks the ability to plan something out in detail I would suspect. Wow. Just, wow. You’ve got lots of experience with autism spectrum disorders don’t ya? (Hint: They’re typically really smart. Edit: I should correct myself. There’s really no correlation between ASD and intelligence. Either way it’s not valid to say that an ASD would make someone less capable of planning and carrying out a crime, unless it involved some sort of infiltration and assimilation CIA type work. Yuk yuk.) I’ll grant you he shouldn’t have had easy access to his mom’s guns, but did he? ---
**Author:** ![newman](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/newman/32/7569_2.png) [@newman](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/newman)\ **Post date:** [December 18, 2012, 1:56pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/school-shooting-in-ct/227754/312 "2012-12-18T13:56:02Z")
> [@1QIKZ](#): > > Just heard on 107.7 (not saying this is 100% true as they fucked up info. on this from the start) the motive behind this was that his mother was planning on having him committed. Shocker. Maybe in the future you don’t mention that to the “committee” before you actually commit them. Chances of this story being true or even partially true… slim. ---
**Author:** ![ProgRocker](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/progrocker/32/5434_2.png) [@ProgRocker](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/ProgRocker)\ **Post date:** [December 18, 2012, 1:59pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/school-shooting-in-ct/227754/313 "2012-12-18T13:59:37Z")
> [@1QIKZ](#): > > Just heard on 107.7 (not saying this is 100% true as they fucked up info. on this from the start) the motive behind this was that his mother was planning on having him committed. Shocker. Maybe in the future you don’t mention that to the “committee” before you actually commit them. Welp, I guess she won’t make that mistake again. ---
**Author:** ![superfan99](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/96bed5/32.png) [@superfan99](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/superfan99)\ **Post date:** [December 18, 2012, 2:02pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/school-shooting-in-ct/227754/314 "2012-12-18T14:02:51Z")
> [@Fry](#): > > Wow. Just, wow. You’ve got lots of experience with autism spectrum disorders don’t ya? (Hint: They’re typically really smart.) > > I’ll grant you he shouldn’t have had easy access to his mom’s guns, but did he? I’m glad someone else addressed that. He reportedly attempted to buy a rifle a few days before the shooting. It certainly seems as though he was possibly planning something. ---
**Author:** ![slo\_ride](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/49beb7/32.png) [@slo\_ride](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/slo_ride)\ **Post date:** [December 18, 2012, 2:44pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/school-shooting-in-ct/227754/315 "2012-12-18T14:44:39Z")
also let’s all remember this wasn’t some “kid”…he was 20 years old… ---
**Author:** ![theblue](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/theblue/32/5074_2.png) [@theblue](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/theblue)\ **Post date:** [December 18, 2012, 2:59pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/school-shooting-in-ct/227754/316 "2012-12-18T14:59:45Z")
> [@Fry](#): > > Wow. Just, wow. You’ve got lots of experience with autism spectrum disorders don’t ya? (Hint: They’re typically really smart.) > > I’ll grant you he shouldn’t have had easy access to his mom’s guns, but did he? you don’t need to be an expect to get the basics. yeah, the are typically very smart, but not the planning kind, more like the problem solve / memorization type. also very impulsive. ---
**Author:** ![tpgsr](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/tpgsr/32/7374_2.png) [@tpgsr](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/tpgsr)\ **Post date:** [December 18, 2012, 3:12pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/school-shooting-in-ct/227754/317 "2012-12-18T15:12:26Z")
> [@theblue](#): > > you don’t need to be an expect to get the basics. yeah, the are typically very smart, but not the planning kind, more like the problem solve / memorization type. also very impulsive. Not at all. I have two autistic cousins and their IQ is of the charts. They are not at all personable but they are beyond smart. One of them is an eagle scout and that took a ton of planning and work on his part to achieve. The hardest part of it was going on camping trips with other scouts away from his family and comfort zone. I will give you the impulsive part… One of them once took apart the water heater in the basement to see how it worked. He did not turn off the water. ---
**Author:** ![Motocrossx23](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/motocrossx23/32/5120_2.png) [@Motocrossx23](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Motocrossx23)\ **Post date:** [December 18, 2012, 4:45pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/school-shooting-in-ct/227754/318 "2012-12-18T16:45:58Z")
Why not just title guns like cars? I’d be cool with that. I’ll pay a $25 title fee and if I sell it to someone then they have to retitle it. ---
**Author:** ![Blue\_Eyed\_Devil](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/blue_eyed_devil/32/7292_2.png) [@Blue\_Eyed\_Devil](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Blue_Eyed_Devil)\ **Post date:** [December 18, 2012, 4:57pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/school-shooting-in-ct/227754/319 "2012-12-18T16:57:28Z")
I guess a state could do that but I would not want to see the Feds try that. ---
**Author:** ![bing](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/bing/32/7211_2.png) [@bing](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/bing)\ **Post date:** [December 18, 2012, 5:33pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/school-shooting-in-ct/227754/320 "2012-12-18T17:33:29Z")
saw people on FB suggest that teachers should be able to carry guns or put police officers in every school… yikes… [Previous page](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/school-shooting-in-ct/227754.md?page=15) [Next page](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/school-shooting-in-ct/227754.md?page=17)