# School Shooting in CT **URL:** \ **Category:** PolitiSUCK\ **Created:** [December 14, 2012, 9:55am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/school-shooting-in-ct/227754 "2012-12-14T09:55:56Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 9
**Author:** ![Event](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/event/32/5443_2.png) [@Event](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Event)\ **Post date:** [December 17, 2012, 6:25am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/school-shooting-in-ct/227754/161 "2012-12-17T06:25:30Z")
> [@TradersBASE](#): > > Laws, rules & subjective “morals” only apply to people that believe in the same things. Note how upstanding citizens abide by most rules and fear consequence, then note how criminals show utter disregard for the same rules and have limited fear of consequence. I’m not convinced regulating everything is the answer, in fact I’d suggest it’s more of the problem in many cases. You can only regulate those that fear the consequence of breaking the rules, these are typically the good guys. > > We should grab a drink sometime…we’re on a similar wavelength it seems. I owe LZ one already, let’s make it happen. Count me in. ---
**Author:** ![Fry](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/fry/32/7284_2.png) [@Fry](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Fry)\ **Post date:** [December 17, 2012, 6:36am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/school-shooting-in-ct/227754/162 "2012-12-17T06:36:22Z")
Just read a comment on Joe’s facebook from someone that said we should start comitting more people to insane asylums for life. But you know, only if they’re really insane. Right. We should definitely start imprisoning people for life without trial and without them even being accused of a crime. For our safety. Why do people get so fucking retarded when shit like this happens? I’ve read everything from arming all kindergarten teachers to putting people in prison without comitting crimes because they are “insane” to putting people in jail for life for defending themselves with unregistered firearms. What the fuck people? I know it sucks to admit that there isn’t much you can do to anticipate sociopathic behavior, but there isn’t. About the only thing that will ever help is to teach our kids to smile and say hi to the weird loner in the corner, instead of joining in with the group picking on him. That and stop modeling intolerant attitudes and behavior (GOP and Christian Church I’m looking directly in your direction.) Even that won’t do much, but it’s about all you can do to address the cause. But instead we talk about gun control. As if it matters. All gun restricting laws do is make it more inconvenient for everyone to get guns. Good guys have to do more paperwork and bad guys have to go to the black market, but everyone can still get guns. The net effect of gun laws is zero, yet we still talk about them like they could make us more or less safe. Meanwhile the weird kid in the corner is still listening to all the other kids tell him that he’s different, worthless, bad. ---
**Author:** ![Beck](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/beck/32/28683_2.png) [@Beck](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Beck)\ **Post date:** [December 17, 2012, 6:49am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/school-shooting-in-ct/227754/163 "2012-12-17T06:49:50Z")
> [@Fry](#): > > Just read a comment on Joe’s facebook from someone that said we should start comitting more people to insane asylums for life. But you know, only if they’re really insane. > Right. We should definitely start imprisoning people for life without trial and without them even being accused of a crime. For our safety. > Why do people get so fucking retarded when shit like this happens? > > I’ve read everything from arming all kindergarten teachers to putting people in prison without comitting crimes because they are “insane” to putting people in jail for life for defending themselves with unregistered firearms. What the fuck people? I know it sucks to admit that there isn’t much you can do to anticipate sociopathic behavior, but there isn’t. About the only thing that will ever help is to teach our kids to smile and say hi to the weird loner in the corner, instead of joining in with the group picking on him. That and stop modeling intolerant attitudes and behavior (GOP and Christian Church I’m looking directly in your direction.) Even that won’t do much, but it’s about all you can do to address the cause. > > But instead we talk about gun control. As if it matters. All gun restricting laws do is make it more inconvenient for everyone to get guns. Good guys have to do more paperwork and bad guys have to go to the black market, but everyone can still get guns. The net effect of gun laws is zero, yet we still talk about them like they could make us more or less safe. > > Meanwhile the weird kid in the corner is still listening to all the other kids tell him that he’s different, worthless, bad. 👏 This is a people problem, not a gun problem. ---
**Author:** ![LZ1](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/7ab992/32.png) [@LZ1](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/LZ1)\ **Post date:** [December 17, 2012, 6:56am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/school-shooting-in-ct/227754/164 "2012-12-17T06:56:55Z")
I can’t wrap me head around this can anyone explain why gun control people mention how old the Bill of rights is and how its not relevant. Yet the majority of people base their lifes around the bible, quarn, and much much older books? ---
**Author:** ![Geehee](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/geehee/32/7238_2.png) [@Geehee](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Geehee)\ **Post date:** [December 17, 2012, 7:08am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/school-shooting-in-ct/227754/165 "2012-12-17T07:08:24Z")
> [@Fry](#): > > Just read a comment on Joe’s facebook from someone that said we should start comitting more people to insane asylums for life. But you know, only if they’re really insane. > Right. We should definitely start imprisoning people for life without trial and without them even being accused of a crime. For our safety. I propose we utilize the sparta pit. ---
**Author:** ![Beck](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/beck/32/28683_2.png) [@Beck](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Beck)\ **Post date:** [December 17, 2012, 7:11am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/school-shooting-in-ct/227754/166 "2012-12-17T07:11:56Z")
> [@LZ](#): > > I can’t wrap me head around this can anyone explain why gun control people mention how old the Bill of rights is and how its not relevant. > > Yet the majority of people base their lifes around the bible, quarn, and much much older books? Because The Bible \> \*\*\*\*\*\* Duh. ---
**Author:** ![Blue\_Eyed\_Devil](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/blue_eyed_devil/32/7292_2.png) [@Blue\_Eyed\_Devil](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Blue_Eyed_Devil)\ **Post date:** [December 17, 2012, 7:18am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/school-shooting-in-ct/227754/167 "2012-12-17T07:18:19Z")
If they start building schools like prisons we can keep kids safe. ---
**Author:** ![LZ1](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/7ab992/32.png) [@LZ1](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/LZ1)\ **Post date:** [December 17, 2012, 7:19am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/school-shooting-in-ct/227754/168 "2012-12-17T07:19:02Z")
While everyone was debating guns etc this came up I had never heard of it. > **[Bath School disaster](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bath_School_disaster)** > > The Bath School disaster, sometimes known as the Bath School massacre, was a series of violent attacks perpetrated by Andrew Kehoe on May 18, 1927, in Bath Township, Michigan, which killed 38 elementary schoolchildren and six adults and injured at least 58 other people.\[Note 1\] Kehoe killed his wife and firebombed his farm, then detonated an explosion in the Bath Consolidated School before committing suicide by detonating a final device in his truck. > Andrew Kehoe was the 55-year-old school bo... “The Bath School disaster is the name given to three bombings in Bath Township, Michigan, on May 18, 1927, which killed 38 elementary school children, two teachers, and four other adults; at least 58 people were injured. The perpetrator killed his wife first, and later committed suicide in his last explosion. Most of the victims were children in the second to sixth grades (7–14 years of age[1]) attending the Bath Consolidated School. Their deaths constitute the deadliest mass murder in a school in United States history.” ---
**Author:** ![Beck](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/beck/32/28683_2.png) [@Beck](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Beck)\ **Post date:** [December 17, 2012, 7:32am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/school-shooting-in-ct/227754/169 "2012-12-17T07:32:46Z")
> [@LZ](#): > > While everyone was debating guns etc this came up I had never heard of it. > > [Bath School disaster - Wikipedia](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bath_School_disaster) > > “The Bath School disaster is the name given to three bombings in Bath Township, Michigan, on May 18, 1927, which killed 38 elementary school children, two teachers, and four other adults; at least 58 people were injured. The perpetrator killed his wife first, and later committed suicide in his last explosion. Most of the victims were children in the second to sixth grades (7–14 years of age[1]) attending the Bath Consolidated School. Their deaths constitute the deadliest mass murder in a school in United States history.” This stuff has been happening for years. Just instead of serial killers (Bundy, Gacey, Dahmer, Berkowitz) it’s people running around with weapons. I’ll take a good ol’ serial killer anyday. Keep everyone on their toes. The only difference is that there were real reporters and investigators back in the day. They didn’t print anything unless they had facts. Not Ryan Lanza’s mother was a teacher at the school and he shot up her classroom with a handgun, to Adam Lanza’s mother was dead in her home, didn’t work at the school and it was with a bushmaster. ---
**Author:** ![LZ1](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/7ab992/32.png) [@LZ1](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/LZ1)\ **Post date:** [December 17, 2012, 7:34am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/school-shooting-in-ct/227754/170 "2012-12-17T07:34:41Z")
> [@Beck](#): > > This stuff has been happening for years. Just instead of serial killers (Bundy, Gacey, Dahmer, Berkowitz) it’s people running around with weapons. I’ll take a good ol’ serial killer anyday. Keep everyone on their toes. Yea was discussing that shift with people the other day seems to be far less serial killers now. ---
**Author:** ![boardjnky4](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/96bed5/32.png) [@boardjnky4](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/boardjnky4)\ **Post date:** [December 17, 2012, 7:35am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/school-shooting-in-ct/227754/171 "2012-12-17T07:35:36Z")
This thread is quite a clusterfuck, but I thought it could benefit from the following story > **[Thinking the Unthinkable](http://anarchistsoccermom.blogspot.com/2012/12/thinking-unthinkable.html)** > > Michael holding a butterfly In the wake of another horrific national tragedy, it’s easy to talk about guns. But it’s time to talk about ... ---
**Author:** ![Motocrossx23](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/motocrossx23/32/5120_2.png) [@Motocrossx23](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Motocrossx23)\ **Post date:** [December 17, 2012, 7:35am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/school-shooting-in-ct/227754/172 "2012-12-17T07:35:43Z")
They should make bombs illegal. ---
**Author:** ![Beck](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/beck/32/28683_2.png) [@Beck](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Beck)\ **Post date:** [December 17, 2012, 7:38am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/school-shooting-in-ct/227754/173 "2012-12-17T07:38:34Z")
I hate to say it, but this is just something that we’re going to have to get used to and the only thing you can do about it, is comfort those involved. Everytime you hear about a suicide bomber in Pakistan, does it surprise you? It’s just something we are “used to”. Ban guns, this kid would’ve just stolen his mother’s car and ran down kids getting on the bus. Ban guns, he’d just make his own homemade pipe bombs. Crazy people are going to do crazy shit. Plain and simple. ---
**Author:** ![TradersBASE](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/tradersbase/32/5321_2.png) [@TradersBASE](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/TradersBASE)\ **Post date:** [December 17, 2012, 7:38am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/school-shooting-in-ct/227754/174 "2012-12-17T07:38:50Z")
> [@LZ](#): > > While everyone was debating guns etc this came up I had never heard of it. > > [Bath School disaster - Wikipedia](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bath_School_disaster) > > “The Bath School disaster is the name given to three bombings in Bath Township, Michigan, on May 18, 1927, which killed 38 elementary school children, two teachers, and four other adults; at least 58 people were injured. The perpetrator killed his wife first, and later committed suicide in his last explosion. Most of the victims were children in the second to sixth grades (7–14 years of age[1]) attending the Bath Consolidated School. Their deaths constitute the deadliest mass murder in a school in United States history.” Funny you found this…my friend just mentioned this last night in discussion and I’d never heard about it either. I bet he was a gun owner. ---
**Author:** ![boardjnky4](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/96bed5/32.png) [@boardjnky4](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/boardjnky4)\ **Post date:** [December 17, 2012, 7:39am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/school-shooting-in-ct/227754/175 "2012-12-17T07:39:35Z")
Make everything illegal, then hire 90% of the population to poilce all of the illegal shit. That solves our Jobs dilemna as well as our massacre problem. ---
**Author:** ![LZ1](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/7ab992/32.png) [@LZ1](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/LZ1)\ **Post date:** [December 17, 2012, 7:41am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/school-shooting-in-ct/227754/176 "2012-12-17T07:41:31Z")
I don’t know the planning that went into this event so its hard to say what gun control would have done. However look at that Colorado shooting he planned for weeks had firearms not been available im sure he would have blown some place up. ---
**Author:** ![Fry](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/fry/32/7284_2.png) [@Fry](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Fry)\ **Post date:** [December 17, 2012, 7:47am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/school-shooting-in-ct/227754/177 "2012-12-17T07:47:14Z")
> [@boardjnky4](#): > > This thread is quite a clusterfuck, but I thought it could benefit from the following story > > [http://anarchistsoccermom.blogspot.com/2012/12/thinking-unthinkable.html](http://anarchistsoccermom.blogspot.com/2012/12/thinking-unthinkable.html) Good, yet frightening, read. Reading her threaten him with abandonment makes me wonder how much of his psychosis was built from an early age rather than purely genetic/biological malfunctions. It certainly sounds like the kid has issues beyond environmental, but regardless of whether the kid is healthy or totally damaged, you don’t threaten to abandon a kid if he doesn’t behave. That just guarantees a bad outcome. ---
**Author:** ![MOBOOST4U](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/f4b2a3/32.png) [@MOBOOST4U](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/MOBOOST4U)\ **Post date:** [December 17, 2012, 7:47am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/school-shooting-in-ct/227754/178 "2012-12-17T07:47:17Z")
> [@LZ](#): > > im sure he would have blown some place up. Granted he could have, well never know, but I dont think it works like that for these people… I think theres something a lot more gratifying to them by holding the weapon and pulling the trigger each time knowing theyre inflicting damage with each pull. You can blow something up from far away and know what youve done, but for these people its about the control as much as it is about the damage. Sort of how pedophilia works ---
**Author:** ![Fry](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/fry/32/7284_2.png) [@Fry](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Fry)\ **Post date:** [December 17, 2012, 7:48am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/school-shooting-in-ct/227754/179 "2012-12-17T07:48:19Z")
Speaking of which, what happened to that kid who was taking target practice in the middle of a tight neighborhood and had a house full of bombs? ---
**Author:** ![boardjnky4](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/96bed5/32.png) [@boardjnky4](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/boardjnky4)\ **Post date:** [December 17, 2012, 7:52am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/school-shooting-in-ct/227754/180 "2012-12-17T07:52:09Z")
> [@Fry](#): > > Good, yet frightening, read. > > Reading her threaten him with abandonment makes me wonder how much of his psychosis was built from an early age rather than purely genetic/biological malfunctions. It certainly sounds like the kid has issues beyond environmental, but regardless of whether the kid is healthy or totally damaged, you don’t threaten to abandon a kid if he doesn’t behave. That just guarantees a bad outcome. One problem that I see here, is that she (and I am sure MANY other parents) had no idea how to handle the situation. From a psychological standpoint, what do you do to help the situation? Honestly, I wouldn’t know how to handle it. So as a parent, what do you do? Normal punishments like grounding aren’t gonna do shit. It’s just a lousy situation. No parent wants their child to be this way. Most parents aren’t equipped with the knowledge to handle this situation in the best way possible. At this point, it’s simply food for thought. Certainly a frightening read. [Previous page](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/school-shooting-in-ct/227754.md?page=8) [Next page](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/school-shooting-in-ct/227754.md?page=10)