# SEAL team charged after prisoner capture **URL:** \ **Category:** NYSpeed Off Topic\ **Created:** [November 25, 2009, 1:27pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/seal-team-charged-after-prisoner-capture/76553 "2009-11-25T13:27:39Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 3
**Author:** ![Jam](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/jam/32/7235_2.png) [@Jam](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Jam)\ **Post date:** [November 26, 2009, 2:20am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/seal-team-charged-after-prisoner-capture/76553/41 "2009-11-26T02:20:08Z")
> [@JayS](#): > > I feel bad for anyone who could read a story like this and say, “oh well, it doesn’t really effect normal Americans”. > > Really? That’s how much you give a shit about our troops, especially a SEAL team out there doing a job that would make 99% of this board piss themselves. They shouldn’t have to worry about ending up in court because someone we are at war with gets a bloody lip. i saw a friend from hs who just got out of the service at the bar tonight, i thanked him for what he did for this country and he was EXTREMELY appreciative. i bought him a shot, and we talked for a while. we exchanged numbers and i really plan on hanging out with him regularly now that he’s back. he’s going through some shit, a lot of people coming back from iraq are. PTSD will hit you hard. a friend of mine has pretty much lost his mind after doing 2 tours, he’s deaf in his left ear from shooting so many goddamn rounds. jays, dont fucking sit at your goddamn computer and tell me that faux news needs to report bullshit like this. yes, its ridiculous, yes it shouldnt have happened, but really. it will all blow by, its simply accusations from a detaniee during a time of war. you srsly think this is an important subject for american citizens to talk and get all fired up about? faux news, contantly broadcasting anything sensational and what will give it the most ratings. YOU HEARD IT HERE FIRST AMERICA and its Affect. not effect. > [@JEG](#): > > So what if I’m white? Why does that make my comment any different than if I were black? The only “change” we’ve seen so far with Obama is our troops being reprimanded for doing what they’re ordered to do, our economy is tanking faster than ever, we are in more debt from Obama in less than 1 year than we were in 8 years of Bush, unemployment is at a record high, and Obama is too preoccupied pushing his own agendas and sucking up to the world to notice what is really going on in America. Yep. There was a change all right. Thing went from bad to hell in a hand basket. But oh…thats right…im just a middle class white man. What do I know about anything right? :suicide: > > Oh its all good though. imean after all…Obama got the Nobel Peace Prize for his amazing job as president. Oh…thats right…he was only president for 2 weeks when he won. :bloated: people need to realize that globalization is inevitable. by making friends, he is making life better for us in the long run. also- in times of recession, “trickle down” = [Hooverville - Wikipedia](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hooverville) or “pump priming” = [Alphabet agencies - Wikipedia](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/New_Deal_agency) have to spend money to make money? yes, this is 8th grade history. just trying to dumb it down for you ---
**Author:** ![JayS](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/jays/32/15375_2.png) [@JayS](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/JayS)\ **Post date:** [November 26, 2009, 4:33am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/seal-team-charged-after-prisoner-capture/76553/42 "2009-11-26T04:33:35Z")
So the news should just ignore it because it makes people upset? I agree, it’s “just a simple complaint from a detainee while we’re at war”. What makes it news worthy is that instead of telling that detainee to shut up and consider himself lucky it was a fist and not a 2000lb bomb that hit him in the lip our military is actually going ahead with charges. Shining a light on stupidity likes this makes it very difficult for it to be repeated. Your biggest problem seems to be that it came from Fox. Here’s something to ponder. Who would have broke this story if Bush was still in charge? Do you honestly believe the other networks would have ignored it? Obama has such a problem with Fox because they are the only network not willing kiss Obamas ass. Remember Van Jones? Was that “faux news” to you too when for weeks Fox was the only one reporting on his checkered past? ---
**Author:** ![Bull49](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/bull49/32/7381_2.png) [@Bull49](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Bull49)\ **Post date:** [November 26, 2009, 5:00am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/seal-team-charged-after-prisoner-capture/76553/43 "2009-11-26T05:00:52Z")
“how did the complaint even get recognized?” is my question. who did he complain to? seems like if he had a bloody lip, a supervising officer (who would likely handle the complaint) would have taken care of his own men and told the terrorist to piss off. also, giving someone a bloody lip doesn’t even constitute assault in nys. harrassment, sure. not assault. ---
**Author:** ![Avatar](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/avatar/32/5076_2.png) [@Avatar](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Avatar)\ **Post date:** [November 26, 2009, 7:10am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/seal-team-charged-after-prisoner-capture/76553/44 "2009-11-26T07:10:02Z")
Well harassment, assault and battery are all very different things. Battery is harmful or offensive contact judged by reasonable person standard. Assault is reasonable _apprehension_ of **immediate** harmful or abusive contact. I really wish we had more details on what exactly was charged. To me, this still seems a bit fishy. ---
**Author:** ![JEG](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/jeg/32/7246_2.png) [@JEG](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/JEG)\ **Post date:** [November 26, 2009, 10:37am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/seal-team-charged-after-prisoner-capture/76553/45 "2009-11-26T10:37:50Z")
> [@Jam](#): > > i saw a friend from hs who just got out of the service at the bar tonight, i thanked him for what he did for this country and he was EXTREMELY appreciative. i bought him a shot, and we talked for a while. we exchanged numbers and i really plan on hanging out with him regularly now that he’s back. > > he’s going through some shit, a lot of people coming back from iraq are. PTSD will hit you hard. a friend of mine has pretty much lost his mind after doing 2 tours, he’s deaf in his left ear from shooting so many goddamn rounds. > > jays, dont fucking sit at your goddamn computer and tell me that faux news needs to report bullshit like this. yes, its ridiculous, yes it shouldnt have happened, but really. it will all blow by, its simply accusations from a detaniee during a time of war. you srsly think this is an important subject for american citizens to talk and get all fired up about? faux news, contantly broadcasting anything sensational and what will give it the most ratings. YOU HEARD IT HERE FIRST AMERICA > > and its Affect. not effect. > > people need to realize that globalization is inevitable. by making friends, he is making life better for us in the long run. also- > > in times of recession, “trickle down” = [Hooverville - Wikipedia](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hooverville) > > or “pump priming” = [Alphabet agencies - Wikipedia](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/New_Deal_agency) > > have to spend money to make money? > > yes, this is 8th grade history. just trying to dumb it down for you I’m well aware that you have to spend money to make money. Unfortunately, he is spending money like a child with his parents credit card. There is a difference between responsible spending, and just throwing money at everything in hopes that something works. oh, and he isn’t really “making friends”. He is kissing asses and demoralizing everything that past generations of Americans have worked, fought, and died for. I love how people always bashed bush for his speeches, yet when have you ever heard a speech by Lord Obama where he didn’t say “uhh” like 40 times? He thrives on generalized statements. He has absolutely no fucking clue what he is doing. How many jobs have these TRILLIONS of dollars produced? How many soldiers are back from this war and thanked for their sacrifices? Nowhere near as many as their should be. Instead they are being reprimanded such as the topic of this thread? Never before in HISTORY have we had a president that acted like this. ---
**Author:** ![glitch](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/0ea827/32.png) [@glitch](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/glitch)\ **Post date:** [November 26, 2009, 10:40am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/seal-team-charged-after-prisoner-capture/76553/46 "2009-11-26T10:40:28Z")
> [@92slowcivic](#): > > “how did the complaint even get recognized?” is my question. who did he complain to? seems like if he had a bloody lip, a supervising officer (who would likely handle the complaint) would have taken care of his own men and told the terrorist to piss off. After he was captured he was briefly handed over to the Iraqi government and that is who he reported being “beaten” to. Then it went up the Navy’s chain of command. I think the issue here is that he was hit after he was already captured. Not saying he doesn’t deserve a very slow painful death but you can’t do that. > [@JEG](#): > > Instead they are being reprimanded such as the topic of this thread? Never before in HISTORY have we had a president that acted like this. :picard: > [@JEG](#): > > The only “change” we’ve seen so far with Obama is our troops being reprimanded for doing what they’re ordered to do, :picard: x10 > [@JEG](#): > > we are in more debt from Obama in less than 1 year than we were in 8 years of Bush :picard: x1,000,000,000 JEG, you have exceeded the maxiumum amount of fail in one thread. Please turn off your computer before you destroy the internets. ---
**Author:** ![JEG](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/jeg/32/7246_2.png) [@JEG](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/JEG)\ **Post date:** [November 26, 2009, 11:05am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/seal-team-charged-after-prisoner-capture/76553/47 "2009-11-26T11:05:14Z")
> [@glitch](#): > > After he was captured he was briefly handed over to the Iraqi government and that is who he reported being “beaten” to. Then it went up the Navy’s chain of command. I think the issue here is that he was hit after he was already captured. Not saying he doesn’t deserve a very slow painful death but you can’t do that.:picard: > :picard: x10:picard: x1,000,000,000 > > JEG, you have exceeded the maxiumum amount of fail in one thread. Please turn off your computer before you destroy the internets. Here I’ll answer with a picture so you can understand better. Notice how one hole is bigger than the other? or do I have to write it in crayon so your simple mind can grasp it? ---
**Author:** ![Jam](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/jam/32/7235_2.png) [@Jam](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Jam)\ **Post date:** [November 26, 2009, 11:22am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/seal-team-charged-after-prisoner-capture/76553/48 "2009-11-26T11:22:21Z")
> [@JEG](#): > > I’m well aware that you have to spend money to make money. Unfortunately, he is spending money like a child with his parents credit card. There is a difference between responsible spending, and just throwing money at everything in hopes that something works. oh, and he isn’t really “making friends”. He is kissing asses and demoralizing everything that past generations of Americans have worked, fought, and died for. I love how people always bashed bush for his speeches, yet when have you ever heard a speech by Lord Obama where he didn’t say “uhh” like 40 times? He thrives on generalized statements. He has absolutely no fucking clue what he is doing. How many jobs have these TRILLIONS of dollars produced? How many soldiers are back from this war and thanked for their sacrifices? Nowhere near as many as their should be. Instead they are being reprimanded such as the topic of this thread? Never before in HISTORY have we had a president that acted like this. Lol. You’re so mad right now. ---
**Author:** ![JEG](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/jeg/32/7246_2.png) [@JEG](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/JEG)\ **Post date:** [November 26, 2009, 11:45am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/seal-team-charged-after-prisoner-capture/76553/49 "2009-11-26T11:45:00Z")
> [@Jam](#): > > Lol. You’re so mad right now. No. Not at all actualy. I don’t get angery at people for being sheep. I pitty them for not being able to see the big picture and think outside of what the media tells them. Agree with the author or not, this is a decent read. If anything, it makes you think a little more about our current and future economical states. He does have some valid points. [http://online.wsj.com/article/SB123629969453946717.html](http://online.wsj.com/article/SB123629969453946717.html) ---
**Author:** ![glitch](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/0ea827/32.png) [@glitch](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/glitch)\ **Post date:** [November 26, 2009, 12:09pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/seal-team-charged-after-prisoner-capture/76553/50 "2009-11-26T12:09:09Z")
> [@JEG](#): > > Here I’ll answer with a picture so you can understand better. > > ![http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v251/tallywhacker/cartoon-stepped-in-500.jpg](https://canada1.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/uploads/speedlife/original/3X/b/6/b6ed2092733d0cc3a96e0085cec95cf569a311b0.jpeg) > > Notice how one hole is bigger than the other? or do I have to write it in crayon so your simple mind can grasp it? Congratulations, you found a comic based on predicted (not official) deficits with hidden costs, such as the war on terror and DoD spending! Go back to breaking more political ground with your biased cartoons. :picard: ---
**Author:** ![burnt\_toast](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/burnt_toast/32/7518_2.png) [@burnt\_toast](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/burnt_toast)\ **Post date:** [November 26, 2009, 12:21pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/seal-team-charged-after-prisoner-capture/76553/51 "2009-11-26T12:21:33Z")
jesus. wasn’t this thread about the navy seals? ---
**Author:** ![glitch](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/0ea827/32.png) [@glitch](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/glitch)\ **Post date:** [November 26, 2009, 12:32pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/seal-team-charged-after-prisoner-capture/76553/52 "2009-11-26T12:32:37Z")
> [@burnt\_toast](#): > > jesus. wasn’t this thread about the navy seals? It was but JEG is high on meth. ---
**Author:** ![JEG](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/jeg/32/7246_2.png) [@JEG](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/JEG)\ **Post date:** [November 26, 2009, 12:34pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/seal-team-charged-after-prisoner-capture/76553/53 "2009-11-26T12:34:33Z")
> [@glitch](#): > > It was but JEG is high on meth. Naw. got family over. Have to wait till they leave to hit the pipe. ---
**Author:** ![DougFresh](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/eada6e/32.png) [@DougFresh](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/DougFresh)\ **Post date:** [November 26, 2009, 2:49pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/seal-team-charged-after-prisoner-capture/76553/54 "2009-11-26T14:49:53Z")
This shit is mind boggling. Fuck this Obama=savior=dickhead bull shit. Americans serving on the front lines having to deal with this garbage, next time kill the motherfucker in self defense because we can’t rough them up during interogation anyways cause there human, right. Wanting to destroy an entire nation is not human, fuck hitler, stalin, huesin, bin laden and these terrorists. ---
**Author:** ![jt76](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/jt76/32/5100_2.png) [@jt76](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/jt76)\ **Post date:** [November 26, 2009, 3:03pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/seal-team-charged-after-prisoner-capture/76553/55 "2009-11-26T15:03:02Z")
I wish i was born in 1886 rather than 1986… what strange times we live in. I hate fucking politics. ---
**Author:** ![JEG](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/jeg/32/7246_2.png) [@JEG](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/JEG)\ **Post date:** [November 26, 2009, 3:14pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/seal-team-charged-after-prisoner-capture/76553/56 "2009-11-26T15:14:10Z")
> [@jt76](#): > > I wish i was born in 1886 rather than 1986… what strange times we live in. I hate fucking politics. I semi agree. Unfortunately knowing all the things that happened in the early 1900s that you would have to live through (depression, WWI&II) not sure it would be much better. But I agree that times are getting strange. ---
**Author:** ![Jam](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/jam/32/7235_2.png) [@Jam](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Jam)\ **Post date:** [November 26, 2009, 3:14pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/seal-team-charged-after-prisoner-capture/76553/57 "2009-11-26T15:14:49Z")
Jeg is still so mad ---
**Author:** ![JEG](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/jeg/32/7246_2.png) [@JEG](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/JEG)\ **Post date:** [November 26, 2009, 3:30pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/seal-team-charged-after-prisoner-capture/76553/58 "2009-11-26T15:30:36Z")
yep. makes me wanna punch a baby. ---
**Author:** ![Avatar](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/avatar/32/5076_2.png) [@Avatar](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Avatar)\ **Post date:** [November 27, 2009, 5:26am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/seal-team-charged-after-prisoner-capture/76553/59 "2009-11-27T05:26:07Z")
> [@jt76](#): > > I wish i was born in 1886 rather than 1986… what strange times we live in. I hate fucking politics. I know you’re joking, but just want to say this is a very ignorant statement. Soldiers should be allowed to conduct war and war must be brutal and severe lest our enemy gain the upper hand. Politics have perverted our concept of war. ---
**Author:** ![08GT500](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/08gt500/32/5417_2.png) [@08GT500](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/08GT500)\ **Post date:** [November 27, 2009, 6:53am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/seal-team-charged-after-prisoner-capture/76553/60 "2009-11-27T06:53:27Z")
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