# SER\>S2000??!!1/!1??

**URL:** <https://forums.speedlife.net/t/ser-s2000-1-1/239092>\
**Category:** Shift518 Automotive\
**Created:** [September 22, 2008, 5:29pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/ser-s2000-1-1/239092 "2008-09-22T17:29:03Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![kramerbuccs24](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/kramerbuccs24/32/6397_2.png) [@kramerbuccs24](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/kramerbuccs24)\
**Post date:** [September 22, 2008, 5:29pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/ser-s2000-1-1/239092/1 "2008-09-22T17:29:03Z")

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:ohnoes

SER’s got cams and an intake, AP1 S2k’s got I/H/E/ECU upgrade

First time I’ve ever seen the two race in a video. The S2000 clearly can’t launch but the SER did put on half a car from a roll…

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**Author:** ![dc2nick](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/dc2nick/32/6289_2.png) [@dc2nick](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/dc2nick)\
**Post date:** [September 22, 2008, 5:37pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/ser-s2000-1-1/239092/2 "2008-09-22T17:37:19Z")

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ur car stock?  
wanna go up against a Stock Ap1?

for shits and giggles

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**Author:** ![kramerbuccs24](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/kramerbuccs24/32/6397_2.png) [@kramerbuccs24](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/kramerbuccs24)\
**Post date:** [September 22, 2008, 5:46pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/ser-s2000-1-1/239092/3 "2008-09-22T17:46:25Z")

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> [@AP1Nick](#):
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> ur car stock?  
> wanna go up against a Stock Ap1?
> 
> for shits and giggles

I’m REALLY not into street racing anymore, but if I’m ever with you and there’s a 100% open road that’s already been scoped out for the fuzz, I’ll consider it :tong

I only posted this because I only claimed “I think I can keep up with a stock AP1 from a roll” and everyone freeeeaked out a few months ago, this is the only video I’ve found with the two cars racing.

EDIT: yeah, I’m stock

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**Author:** ![dc2nick](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/dc2nick/32/6289_2.png) [@dc2nick](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/dc2nick)\
**Post date:** [September 22, 2008, 5:47pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/ser-s2000-1-1/239092/4 "2008-09-22T17:47:13Z")

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its chill man. i wasnt challanging you or anything, im just sayin for fun

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**Author:** ![Shawn96VR-4](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/eada6e/32.png) [@Shawn96VR-4](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Shawn96VR-4)\
**Post date:** [September 22, 2008, 5:47pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/ser-s2000-1-1/239092/5 "2008-09-22T17:47:27Z")

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The video is fake.

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**Author:** ![LKSi](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/lksi/32/6316_2.png) [@LKSi](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/LKSi)\
**Post date:** [September 22, 2008, 5:51pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/ser-s2000-1-1/239092/6 "2008-09-22T17:51:11Z")

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definitely fake

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**Author:** ![kramerbuccs24](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/kramerbuccs24/32/6397_2.png) [@kramerbuccs24](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/kramerbuccs24)\
**Post date:** [September 22, 2008, 5:58pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/ser-s2000-1-1/239092/7 "2008-09-22T17:58:58Z")

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> [@AP1Nick](#):
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> its chill man. i wasnt challanging you or anything, im just sayin for fun

haha I know 99% of you guys are cool about the possibility of a 97-98MPH trap SER keeping up with a 97-98 trap AP1, which makes perfect sense to me, but cliff and a few other were bugging out and blew it way out of proportion :lol

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**Author:** ![OsoiNA6](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/osoina6/32/6301_2.png) [@OsoiNA6](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/OsoiNA6)\
**Post date:** [September 22, 2008, 7:32pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/ser-s2000-1-1/239092/8 "2008-09-22T19:32:27Z")

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I only looked at this thread 'cause I thought you meant classic SE-R…

We all know that’s the only SE-R capable of beating an AP1 with intake+cams… Hahaha

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**Author:** ![K20power](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/41988e/32.png) [@K20power](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/K20power)\
**Post date:** [September 22, 2008, 7:35pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/ser-s2000-1-1/239092/9 "2008-09-22T19:35:30Z")

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I looked at the thread because I thought it was something local…Why isn’t this in the Video Section? :confused noobs :idiots

S2K \> SE-R all day ;D :ssh :cool

except the early 90’s SE-R’s ;D

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**Author:** ![Cliff](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/b38774/32.png) [@Cliff](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Cliff)\
**Post date:** [September 22, 2008, 7:39pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/ser-s2000-1-1/239092/10 "2008-09-22T19:39:38Z")

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> [@kramerbuccs24](#):
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> haha I know 99% of you guys are cool about the possibility of a 97-98MPH trap SER keeping up with a 97-98 trap AP1, which makes perfect sense to me, but cliff and a few other were bugging out and blew it way out of proportion :lol

:deadhorse

2 fuckin months man… holy shit, were you that butt hurt?

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**Author:** ![kramerbuccs24](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/kramerbuccs24/32/6397_2.png) [@kramerbuccs24](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/kramerbuccs24)\
**Post date:** [September 22, 2008, 7:57pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/ser-s2000-1-1/239092/11 "2008-09-22T19:57:22Z")

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> [@Cliff](#):
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> :deadhorse
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> 2 fuckin months man… holy shit, were you that butt hurt?

No, not at all. I was just going through some SER videos and that came up, which reminded me of the little debate on here.

I honestly don’t care what my car does in a straight line anymore, I’m 99% done modding it, just finishing out my sound system, SS brakelines and a track/auto X wheel and tire set and that’s about it, then it’s all about saving for a real car, which, ironically, will most likely be an AP1 S2000 or a 2007+ 350Z (worth about $2,000 more than my car, 330whp and with boltons and a reflash and has hit 12.9 @ 107 with that setup. I can link you guys if it’s really necessary…)

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**Author:** ![bennyfizzle](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/bennyfizzle/32/6291_2.png) [@bennyfizzle](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/bennyfizzle)\
**Post date:** [September 22, 2008, 8:37pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/ser-s2000-1-1/239092/12 "2008-09-22T20:37:21Z")

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No 350Z with 230whp is going to rip off a 12.9 without slicks.

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**Author:** ![tdi\_logik](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/tdi_logik/32/6310_2.png) [@tdi\_logik](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/tdi_logik)\
**Post date:** [September 22, 2008, 8:40pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/ser-s2000-1-1/239092/13 "2008-09-22T20:40:32Z")

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> [@kramerbuccs24](#):
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> No, not at all. I was just going through some SER videos and that came up, which reminded me of the little debate on here.
> 
> has hit 12.9 @ 107 with that setup. I can link you guys if it’s really necessary…)

seems like a freak 3fiddy.

i don’t wanna see a link

thanks

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**Author:** ![K20power](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/41988e/32.png) [@K20power](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/K20power)\
**Post date:** [September 22, 2008, 8:42pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/ser-s2000-1-1/239092/14 "2008-09-22T20:42:08Z")

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Let’s see, how many times has Kramer said he’s saving for a “real” car and followed it up by saying S2000. :bore

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**Author:** ![kramerbuccs24](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/kramerbuccs24/32/6397_2.png) [@kramerbuccs24](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/kramerbuccs24)\
**Post date:** [September 22, 2008, 8:46pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/ser-s2000-1-1/239092/15 "2008-09-22T20:46:22Z")

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> [@BENNYFIZZLE](#):
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> No 350Z with 230whp is going to rip off a 12.9 without slicks.

SORRYYYYY

I meant 330whp

and that was on DR’s

type-o’s FTMFL :lol

> [@K20powerz](#):
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> Let’s see, how many times has Kramer said he’s saving for a “real” car and followed it up by saying S2000. :bore

Not following you… are you saying the S2000 isn’t a “real car” or that I shouldn’t be talking about my current car that I’m not super in love with beating a potential next car?

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**Author:** ![Cliff](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/b38774/32.png) [@Cliff](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Cliff)\
**Post date:** [September 22, 2008, 8:48pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/ser-s2000-1-1/239092/16 "2008-09-22T20:48:01Z")

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Drag radials are a lot more than just “bolt-ons and a reflash”

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**Author:** ![SSmokinn\_SS](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ec9cab/32.png) [@SSmokinn\_SS](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/SSmokinn_SS)\
**Post date:** [September 22, 2008, 9:41pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/ser-s2000-1-1/239092/17 "2008-09-22T21:41:58Z")

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do you know how much work/money it takes to get 330whp out of a 350Z? They have the biggest drivetrain loss. Its retarted. Most bolt on/dyno tuned 350Z’s dont even lay down over 250whp.

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**Author:** ![kramerbuccs24](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/kramerbuccs24/32/6397_2.png) [@kramerbuccs24](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/kramerbuccs24)\
**Post date:** [September 22, 2008, 9:46pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/ser-s2000-1-1/239092/18 "2008-09-22T21:46:02Z")

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[http://my350z.com/forum/vq35hr/381987-full-bolt-hr-z-dynos-inside.html](http://my350z.com/forum/vq35hr/381987-full-bolt-hr-z-dynos-inside.html)

^318whp/264wtq on a 5AT, rough conversion to a 6MT drivetrain loss is 325-330whp.

The 07+ have a new motor, VQ35HR compared to my motor/01-06 Z’s, the VQ35DE. Twin throttle bodies and reworked internals, makes 306bhp/265tq stock. Also revs to 7600RPM, 8000 with the reflash, but peak power will still be 7000-72000 without upgraded internals. (VQ35DE revs to 6600 stock, 7000 with reflash, and makes peak power at 6200-6400).

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**Author:** ![Shawn96VR-4](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/eada6e/32.png) [@Shawn96VR-4](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Shawn96VR-4)\
**Post date:** [September 23, 2008, 5:39am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/ser-s2000-1-1/239092/19 "2008-09-23T05:39:14Z")

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> [@kramerbuccs24](#):
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> but peak power will still be 7000-72000 without upgraded internals.

:nuts

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**Author:** ![bennyfizzle](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/bennyfizzle/32/6291_2.png) [@bennyfizzle](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/bennyfizzle)\
**Post date:** [September 23, 2008, 5:39am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/ser-s2000-1-1/239092/20 "2008-09-23T05:39:56Z")

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72000rpm :ohnoes

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