# Should I love it or list is

**URL:** <https://forums.speedlife.net/t/should-i-love-it-or-list-is/272321>\
**Category:** NYSpeed Automotive\
**Created:** [May 19, 2015, 12:17pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/should-i-love-it-or-list-is/272321 "2015-05-19T12:17:57Z")\
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**Author:** ![drvnkd](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/drvnkd/32/109615_2.png) [@drvnkd](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/drvnkd)\
**Post date:** [May 19, 2015, 12:17pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/should-i-love-it-or-list-is/272321/1 "2015-05-19T12:17:57Z")

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Lets say I have a 2001 cavalier that has been rotting away in the garage for a few years.

I needs some lovin to be road worthy. Tires, wheel bearings, ball joints, front Koni’s are shit, exhaust and some general clean up.  
The wheel bearings and ball joints have been on the front seat NIP, for 3 years now.

It was always a dirt cheap and reliable car and I have toyed with the idea of using it as the daily driver vs driving my 12 mpg Envoy.  
I have also entertained thoughts of rebuilding a turbo BDR5oh gave me back in ~2003 and/or putting the Zex kit on it just to  
make it end of life it in a more dramatic fashion. It could be a sneaky little 15 second car :lol:

How much effort should go into a car that is at best what, $1,500-2,000 The speed holes really detract from the appearance.

So, should I list it, Love it, or list it after some TLC.  
Constructive criticism is welcome, as is well executed sarcasm.

Should this be a TW thread in classifieds?

 ![http://i1118.photobucket.com/albums/k607/drvnkd/20150515_194108_zps4pbahrht.jpg](http://i1118.photobucket.com/albums/k607/drvnkd/20150515_194108_zps4pbahrht.jpg)

 ![http://i1118.photobucket.com/albums/k607/drvnkd/20150515_194308_zpsb6idcu1a.jpg](http://i1118.photobucket.com/albums/k607/drvnkd/20150515_194308_zpsb6idcu1a.jpg)

Damn thing started right up after tossing a charge on the battery, but left me a rust trail on the way out of the garage.

 ![http://i1118.photobucket.com/albums/k607/drvnkd/20150515_194407_zpstyrh7li6.jpg](http://i1118.photobucket.com/albums/k607/drvnkd/20150515_194407_zpstyrh7li6.jpg)

This needs to be cleaned up no matter what. I doubt anyone would want a car half assed for boost or N2O.

 ![http://i1118.photobucket.com/albums/k607/drvnkd/20150515_194213_zpsnt71n9nq.jpg](http://i1118.photobucket.com/albums/k607/drvnkd/20150515_194213_zpsnt71n9nq.jpg)

Why, yes that is a decorative intercooler.

 ![http://i1118.photobucket.com/albums/k607/drvnkd/20150515_194238_zps9fym6y8q.jpg](http://i1118.photobucket.com/albums/k607/drvnkd/20150515_194238_zps9fym6y8q.jpg)

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**Author:** ![cougarspeed](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/cougarspeed/32/7468_2.png) [@cougarspeed](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/cougarspeed)\
**Post date:** [May 19, 2015, 12:19pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/should-i-love-it-or-list-is/272321/2 "2015-05-19T12:19:49Z")

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My friend in HS had one of these with a body kit. We thought it was siq. So many burnouts were had.

Post burnout vids. Then sell

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**Author:** ![tpgsr](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/tpgsr/32/7374_2.png) [@tpgsr](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/tpgsr)\
**Post date:** [May 19, 2015, 12:40pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/should-i-love-it-or-list-is/272321/3 "2015-05-19T12:40:22Z")

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This:  
 ![http://northiowatoday.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/06/Cavalier-Fully-Engulfed-2012.jpg](http://northiowatoday.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/06/Cavalier-Fully-Engulfed-2012.jpg)

Or this:  
 ![http://image.chevyhiperformance.com/f/8838313/p111591_large+Chevrolet_Cavalier_425_HP_AFX_Coupe+Front_Passenger_Side.jpg](http://image.chevyhiperformance.com/f/8838313/p111591_large+Chevrolet_Cavalier_425_HP_AFX_Coupe+Front_Passenger_Side.jpg)

If you take option two it looks like you can hang out with that super cool Saturn kid from Lancaster.

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**Author:** ![GV1390](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/gv1390/32/5432_2.png) [@GV1390](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/GV1390)\
**Post date:** [May 19, 2015, 12:56pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/should-i-love-it-or-list-is/272321/4 "2015-05-19T12:56:22Z")

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@deebo should buy this to beat up on some Mustang’s.

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**Author:** ![drvnkd](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/drvnkd/32/109615_2.png) [@drvnkd](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/drvnkd)\
**Post date:** [May 19, 2015, 1:31pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/should-i-love-it-or-list-is/272321/5 "2015-05-19T13:31:07Z")

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> [@GV1390](#):
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> @**[deebo](http://www.nyspeed.com/member.php?u=4059)** should buy this to beat up on some Mustang’s.

That was essentially my plan for this car. :lol:  
It even has some neons under there to draw them in… :fagola:

Then i found out how ignorant I was about turbos (2001) and bought a motorcycle to get around on  
while I was hunting up a new engine. Then I found out just how shitty and slow it would be AFTER I boosted it.

😃

I waited 3 years for

And it has not worked out.

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**Author:** ![LUKE\_L](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/luke_l/32/7462_2.png) [@LUKE\_L](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/LUKE_L)\
**Post date:** [May 19, 2015, 1:38pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/should-i-love-it-or-list-is/272321/6 "2015-05-19T13:38:45Z")

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How many years until your oldest can drive it?

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**Author:** ![drvnkd](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/drvnkd/32/109615_2.png) [@drvnkd](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/drvnkd)\
**Post date:** [May 19, 2015, 1:42pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/should-i-love-it-or-list-is/272321/7 "2015-05-19T13:42:44Z")

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How ever long it takes me to move someplace with enough space to drive on.

She is 10, and can already drive my Envoy 🙂

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**Author:** ![91MR2](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/91mr2/32/7217_2.png) [@91MR2](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/91MR2)\
**Post date:** [May 19, 2015, 1:42pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/should-i-love-it-or-list-is/272321/8 "2015-05-19T13:42:46Z")

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Can I get the slice of pizza from the passenger floor?

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**Author:** ![Jam](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/jam/32/7235_2.png) [@Jam](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Jam)\
**Post date:** [May 19, 2015, 1:46pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/should-i-love-it-or-list-is/272321/9 "2015-05-19T13:46:09Z")

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there is a guy locally that had a blue turbo cavalier he kept trying to sell. maybe he needs a parts car?

or build it and hang out with the Saturn kid!!

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**Author:** ![drvnkd](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/drvnkd/32/109615_2.png) [@drvnkd](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/drvnkd)\
**Post date:** [May 19, 2015, 1:47pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/should-i-love-it-or-list-is/272321/10 "2015-05-19T13:47:50Z")

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> [@91MR2](#):
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> Can I get the slice of pizza from the passenger floor?

I think that can be arranged.

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**Author:** ![Onyx\_Z32](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/onyx_z32/32/7581_2.png) [@Onyx\_Z32](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Onyx_Z32)\
**Post date:** [May 19, 2015, 1:51pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/should-i-love-it-or-list-is/272321/11 "2015-05-19T13:51:11Z")

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Full JDM conversion and restore. Sell for $1Million.

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**Author:** ![drvnkd](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/drvnkd/32/109615_2.png) [@drvnkd](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/drvnkd)\
**Post date:** [May 26, 2015, 2:05pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/should-i-love-it-or-list-is/272321/12 "2015-05-26T14:05:42Z")

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That sounds reasonable. I remember all too well when people thought Toyota cavaliers were cool.  
This woudl be much better. Probably still only get $1,800 after the swap though.

[https://youtu.be/adr2xeUqKSI](https://youtu.be/adr2xeUqKSI)

I’m leaning heavily towards removing the dead weight. Intercooler & piping, MSD window switch, gauges, Zex bits etc…  
Then toss it up for trade on CL.

I look at the open space in the garage and realize I want money to fix a couple of motorcycles or finding a dirtbike/super moto

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**Author:** ![drvnkd](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/drvnkd/32/109615_2.png) [@drvnkd](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/drvnkd)\
**Post date:** [May 27, 2015, 9:07am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/should-i-love-it-or-list-is/272321/13 "2015-05-27T09:07:40Z")

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WTF is this thing…  
[http://www.engineswapdepot.com/?attachment\_id=4333](http://www.engineswapdepot.com/?attachment_id=4333)

![http://www.nyspeed.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=35026&stc=1](http://www.nyspeed.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=35026&stc=1)

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**Author:** ![maxwell](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/maxwell/32/6524_2.png) [@maxwell](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/maxwell)\
**Post date:** [May 27, 2015, 9:44am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/should-i-love-it-or-list-is/272321/14 "2015-05-27T09:44:29Z")

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Spend as little as humanely possible to get it to a point where you can…

List it.

Sell it.

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**Author:** ![King](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/king/32/7329_2.png) [@King](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/King)\
**Post date:** [May 27, 2015, 10:46am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/should-i-love-it-or-list-is/272321/15 "2015-05-27T10:46:29Z")

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^^^^ thats my vote - make clean/stock/reliable/no issue for anyone to whine about, sell. move on.

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**Author:** ![91MR2](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/91mr2/32/7217_2.png) [@91MR2](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/91MR2)\
**Post date:** [May 27, 2015, 12:19pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/should-i-love-it-or-list-is/272321/16 "2015-05-27T12:19:43Z")

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I think the issue still comes down to the fact that it will take his time, and not reward him too much financially…

On a side note, I have farted in this car…

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**Author:** ![BadnewsMike](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/badnewsmike/32/7419_2.png) [@BadnewsMike](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/BadnewsMike)\
**Post date:** [May 27, 2015, 6:20pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/should-i-love-it-or-list-is/272321/17 "2015-05-27T18:20:07Z")

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sell it by a nice 98 jetta 2.0 5speed and let that rot in the garage.

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**Author:** ![Jam](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/jam/32/7235_2.png) [@Jam](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Jam)\
**Post date:** [May 27, 2015, 6:50pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/should-i-love-it-or-list-is/272321/18 "2015-05-27T18:50:37Z")

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> [@BadnewsMike](#):
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> sell it by a nice 98 jetta 2.0 5speed and let that rot in the garage.

perfect!

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**Author:** ![drvnkd](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/drvnkd/32/109615_2.png) [@drvnkd](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/drvnkd)\
**Post date:** [May 28, 2015, 6:42am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/should-i-love-it-or-list-is/272321/19 "2015-05-28T06:42:36Z")

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:lol:  
I wonder what happened to all my pics ☹  
[http://www.nyspeed.com/showthread.php?216025-13-y-o-whore&highlight=jetta](http://www.nyspeed.com/showthread.php?216025-13-y-o-whore&highlight=jetta)

I do not miss that whore one bit. She is 17 now.

You do raise an interesting point. This is in fact the 3rd car I have let rot before deciding to dump it.

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:lol:  
I wonder what happened to all my pics ☹  
[http://www.nyspeed.com/showthread.php?216025-13-y-o-whore&highlight=jetta](http://www.nyspeed.com/showthread.php?216025-13-y-o-whore&highlight=jetta)

I do not miss that whore one bit. Although, you do raise an interesting point. This is in fact the 3rd car I have let rot before deciding to dump it.

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**Author:** ![BadnewsMike](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/badnewsmike/32/7419_2.png) [@BadnewsMike](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/BadnewsMike)\
**Post date:** [May 28, 2015, 7:39am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/should-i-love-it-or-list-is/272321/20 "2015-05-28T07:39:54Z")

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ya i remember that car. and you really need to stop this habit its not good for you or the cars.  
I say either throw it together and sell it or find some cheap backyard mechanic 😉 and get it to a nice shape and sell it.  
take that money and use it to buy gas for the truck. you want something fuel efficient get a motorcycle it stores much easier.

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