# Should i Stage 2?

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**Category:** PittSpeed Off Topic\
**Created:** [October 4, 2007, 12:21pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/should-i-stage-2/192805 "2007-10-04T12:21:15Z")\
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**Author:** ![alleycat58](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/b2d939/32.png) [@alleycat58](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/alleycat58)\
**Post date:** [October 10, 2007, 11:09am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/should-i-stage-2/192805/56 "2007-10-10T11:09:06Z")

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> [@fs 2000 camaro ss](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/fs-2000-camaro-ss/32934/6):
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> i would say youd be better off going custom. gm kit seems to be ok but i dont think it makes it that much faster. for simplicity reason i can see why youd wanna go gm but since these cars have been modded for a while and all figured out i would just do the research on custom stuff or do what alleycat said was a sweet setup.

But for what he wants the car for, custom isn’t practical for him. He wants a reliable daily driver WITH warranty that he’s not going to have to worry about.

> [@holy fire suppressants v. noco @ parker](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/holy-fire-suppressants-v-noco-parker/32887/17):
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> cant you buy the stage 2 somewhere and install it yourself to save some money?

Then ya kiss your warranty goodbye. GM will still honor the full powertrain warranty on Stage 2 IF you have the installation done by a GM dealership. If you don’t care about keeping the warranty, then you can install your own, have the dealer flash it, and call it a day. BUT…at that point why not just go a little further and go custom if warranty is irrelevant?

> [@New shoes for the E30](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/new-shoes-for-the-e30/32945/15):
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> i dont think you can do the pcm stage 2 flash. but everything else, i would think so. i thought it just gave you a code that you need for the stage 2 flash and then the dealer puts that on. i could be wrong tho

Yes and no. You can load either THE stage 2 tune or better yet a user-refined tune through HPTuners. If you don’t have HPT, then yeah, you can install pulley and injectors and just have them flash the tune on.

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