# Small Engine: Horizontal shaft/Comet torque converter

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**Created:** [October 4, 2010, 8:42am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/small-engine-horizontal-shaft-comet-torque-converter/161108 "2010-10-04T08:42:44Z")\
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**Author:** ![newman](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/newman/32/7569_2.png) [@newman](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/newman)\
**Post date:** [October 4, 2010, 8:42am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/small-engine-horizontal-shaft-comet-torque-converter/161108/1 "2010-10-04T08:42:44Z")

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I’m looking for a stout horizontal shaft motor with a 1" drive. Needs to be around 13.5 ft-lb or about 8HP

Also looking for a go kart style torque converter… preferably a Comet 40 series:

![http://www.northerntool.com/images/product/images/13795_lg.jpg](http://www.northerntool.com/images/product/images/13795_lg.jpg)

But I will also take this kind:  
 ![http://gokartsusa.com/ProductImages/TAV30.jpg](http://gokartsusa.com/ProductImages/TAV30.jpg)

Other things of interest:  
3/16 or 1/8 coated wire rope. at least 500 feet

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**Author:** ![bracketracer](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/bracketracer/32/15592_2.png) [@bracketracer](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/bracketracer)\
**Post date:** [October 4, 2010, 8:51am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/small-engine-horizontal-shaft-comet-torque-converter/161108/2 "2010-10-04T08:51:32Z")

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In for videos of whatever this Frankensteins into

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**Author:** ![newman](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/newman/32/7569_2.png) [@newman](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/newman)\
**Post date:** [October 4, 2010, 8:56am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/small-engine-horizontal-shaft-comet-torque-converter/161108/3 "2010-10-04T08:56:35Z")

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I wanna make a snowboarding winch:

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**Author:** ![jay\_g](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/jay_g/32/111288_2.png) [@jay\_g](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/jay_g)\
**Post date:** [October 4, 2010, 9:20am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/small-engine-horizontal-shaft-comet-torque-converter/161108/4 "2010-10-04T09:20:48Z")

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What about a centrifugal set up. Cheaper and can swap sprockets to change speed  
[http://www.tractorsupply.com/vehicle-maintenance-accessories/atvs-utvs/atv-utv-attachments-accessories/masters-of-motion-trade-centrifugal-clutch-12t-35p-5520021](http://www.tractorsupply.com/vehicle-maintenance-accessories/atvs-utvs/atv-utv-attachments-accessories/masters-of-motion-trade-centrifugal-clutch-12t-35p-5520021)

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**Author:** ![newman](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/newman/32/7569_2.png) [@newman](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/newman)\
**Post date:** [October 4, 2010, 9:24am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/small-engine-horizontal-shaft-comet-torque-converter/161108/5 "2010-10-04T09:24:53Z")

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They’re cheaper but also take longer to get up to speed. The torque converter is a CVT and will provide a constant pulling force. Although this probably matters less for snowboarding and more for wakeboarding…

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**Author:** ![jay\_g](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/jay_g/32/111288_2.png) [@jay\_g](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/jay_g)\
**Post date:** [October 4, 2010, 9:54am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/small-engine-horizontal-shaft-comet-torque-converter/161108/6 "2010-10-04T09:54:36Z")

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The same can be said about either set up. It might take a few trial and errors with spring and ramp rate to get the clutching just right for speed and motor RPM. Either one of these would work. That centrifugal set up would be pretty simple. Motor from a junk snow blower, chain, few sprockets, a drum to spool the rope.

Could also do a high speed winch.

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**Author:** ![newman](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/newman/32/7569_2.png) [@newman](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/newman)\
**Post date:** [October 4, 2010, 10:14am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/small-engine-horizontal-shaft-comet-torque-converter/161108/7 "2010-10-04T10:14:01Z")

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I was looking at some winches on [ridiculouswinches.com](http://ridiculouswinches.com) and almost all of their units use torque converters. Only the base model uses a centrifugal clutch. Looks like they have a brake too (which makes sense).

I figure I can get all the parts for about 800 bucks or so… was thinking about this motor:

[http://www.northerntool.com/shop/tools/product\_200383370\_200383370](http://www.northerntool.com/shop/tools/product_200383370_200383370)

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**Author:** ![jay\_g](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/jay_g/32/111288_2.png) [@jay\_g](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/jay_g)\
**Post date:** [October 4, 2010, 10:50am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/small-engine-horizontal-shaft-comet-torque-converter/161108/8 "2010-10-04T10:50:05Z")

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wow your going all out, I was thinking $200-$300 and call it a day. That briggs should be plenty of power. Post up pics of the build.

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**Author:** ![Paulo](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/paulo/32/7328_2.png) [@Paulo](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Paulo)\
**Post date:** [October 4, 2010, 10:59am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/small-engine-horizontal-shaft-comet-torque-converter/161108/9 "2010-10-04T10:59:36Z")

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I’ll contribute effort to the build if I get to use it after. lol

Seems like an awesome idea. But are you planning to have it go faster than the one in the video?

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**Author:** ![newman](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/newman/32/7569_2.png) [@newman](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/newman)\
**Post date:** [October 4, 2010, 11:00am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/small-engine-horizontal-shaft-comet-torque-converter/161108/10 "2010-10-04T11:00:07Z")

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I don’t necessarily want to go nuts w/ the build, but I usually do things right.

Northern has an 11.5 ft-lb motor for 229, but it’s 1" shaft wont fit the torque converter… After looking into it more, I think I want to use the TAV2 that I pictured above… so I need to find a burly 3/4" shaft motor…

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**Author:** ![llink78](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/llink78/32/8037_2.png) [@llink78](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/llink78)\
**Post date:** [October 4, 2010, 11:01am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/small-engine-horizontal-shaft-comet-torque-converter/161108/11 "2010-10-04T11:01:36Z")

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I think I have a 8 or 9 Briggs in my basement that’s a 3/4 shaft. Or a 14 from a Honda but that’s a 1 inch shaft. I’ll try to start em up but you can deft just have one if they are still down there. I told my gf’s brothers they could use em but I don’t think they did bc they didn’t wanna spend decent money for a 1 inch clutch.

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**Author:** ![newman](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/newman/32/7569_2.png) [@newman](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/newman)\
**Post date:** [October 4, 2010, 11:03am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/small-engine-horizontal-shaft-comet-torque-converter/161108/12 "2010-10-04T11:03:54Z")

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Oh, just found out what motors they’re running on their winches: shitty chinese ones

[http://www.harborfreight.com/65-hp-horizontal-shaft-overhead-valve-gas-engine-66015.html](http://www.harborfreight.com/65-hp-horizontal-shaft-overhead-valve-gas-engine-66015.html)

![http://www.harborfreight.com/media/catalog/product/cache/1/image/370x/9df78eab33525d08d6e5fb8d27136e95/i/m/image_1663.jpg](http://www.harborfreight.com/media/catalog/product/cache/1/image/370x/9df78eab33525d08d6e5fb8d27136e95/i/m/image_1663.jpg)

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llink, I’m super interested, let me know!

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**Author:** ![llink78](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/llink78/32/8037_2.png) [@llink78](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/llink78)\
**Post date:** [October 4, 2010, 11:05am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/small-engine-horizontal-shaft-comet-torque-converter/161108/13 "2010-10-04T11:05:33Z")

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Will do I get outa work at 330. I’ll post back around 4ish.

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**Author:** ![newman](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/newman/32/7569_2.png) [@newman](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/newman)\
**Post date:** [October 4, 2010, 11:15am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/small-engine-horizontal-shaft-comet-torque-converter/161108/14 "2010-10-04T11:15:42Z")

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K thanks.

It’s funny that the motor costs less than the friggen torque converter.

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**Author:** ![checko](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/checko/32/5422_2.png) [@checko](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/checko)\
**Post date:** [October 4, 2010, 11:17am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/small-engine-horizontal-shaft-comet-torque-converter/161108/15 "2010-10-04T11:17:40Z")

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buy one of the 2 snowblowers i got posted for the motor…they r 7hp lol

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**Author:** ![llink78](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/llink78/32/8037_2.png) [@llink78](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/llink78)\
**Post date:** [October 4, 2010, 11:51am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/small-engine-horizontal-shaft-comet-torque-converter/161108/16 "2010-10-04T11:51:31Z")

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Arnt snowblowers vertical shaft though?

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**Author:** ![checko](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/checko/32/5422_2.png) [@checko](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/checko)\
**Post date:** [October 4, 2010, 11:58am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/small-engine-horizontal-shaft-comet-torque-converter/161108/17 "2010-10-04T11:58:49Z")

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I dunno lol

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**Author:** ![boardjnky4](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/96bed5/32.png) [@boardjnky4](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/boardjnky4)\
**Post date:** [October 4, 2010, 11:59am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/small-engine-horizontal-shaft-comet-torque-converter/161108/18 "2010-10-04T11:59:42Z")

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most snowblowers are horizontal shaft

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**Author:** ![turbociv](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/dfb087/32.png) [@turbociv](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/turbociv)\
**Post date:** [October 4, 2010, 12:04pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/small-engine-horizontal-shaft-comet-torque-converter/161108/19 "2010-10-04T12:04:29Z")

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I was hoping that this would be a design to allow you to propel up a wall instead of down.lol now i see its only for snowboarding.☹ still cool none the less/

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**Author:** ![dirtye30](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/dirtye30/32/7333_2.png) [@dirtye30](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/dirtye30)\
**Post date:** [October 4, 2010, 12:20pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/small-engine-horizontal-shaft-comet-torque-converter/161108/20 "2010-10-04T12:20:12Z")

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ive got some old 8 horse snow blower motors. also MY g/f’s dad runs the show at schaub equip. in WS. soooooo any clutches or new motors you may decide you want i can get on the super cheap. in fact we were talking about karting a few weeks ago he said therews a few engines there i could have.

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