# Smartphones comparison side by side **URL:** \ **Category:** Shift518 Off Topic\ **Created:** [January 7, 2010, 5:54am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/smartphones-comparison-side-by-side/249589 "2010-01-07T05:54:59Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 4
**Author:** ![ninety1two40](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/ninety1two40/32/6332_2.png) [@ninety1two40](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/ninety1two40)\ **Post date:** [January 8, 2010, 9:59am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/smartphones-comparison-side-by-side/249589/61 "2010-01-08T09:59:31Z")
Fucking hate that map, it’s such BS. Verizon 3G is different that AT&T 3G Here is the AT&T EDGE data map: ![http://shift518.gom-host.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=1820&stc=1&d=1262973430](http://shift518.gom-host.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=1820&stc=1&d=1262973430) ![http://cache.gawker.com/assets/images/4/2009/11/500x_VZ_vs_ATT_3G_coverage.jpg](http://cache.gawker.com/assets/images/4/2009/11/500x_VZ_vs_ATT_3G_coverage.jpg) ---
**Author:** ![Hooked\_on\_240](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/b9e5f3/32.png) [@Hooked\_on\_240](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Hooked_on_240)\ **Post date:** [January 8, 2010, 11:20am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/smartphones-comparison-side-by-side/249589/62 "2010-01-08T11:20:20Z")
i still see more red. ---
**Author:** ![Ilya](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/ilya/32/6404_2.png) [@Ilya](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Ilya)\ **Post date:** [January 8, 2010, 11:25am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/smartphones-comparison-side-by-side/249589/63 "2010-01-08T11:25:28Z")
I have to say Verizons commercial with the kid watching football is pretty funny: ---
**Author:** ![OMGSIIK](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/omgsiik/32/6489_2.png) [@OMGSIIK](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/OMGSIIK)\ **Post date:** [January 8, 2010, 1:44pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/smartphones-comparison-side-by-side/249589/64 "2010-01-08T13:44:22Z")
:clap ---
**Author:** ![OMGSIIK](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/omgsiik/32/6489_2.png) [@OMGSIIK](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/OMGSIIK)\ **Post date:** [January 8, 2010, 1:44pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/smartphones-comparison-side-by-side/249589/65 "2010-01-08T13:44:48Z")
> [@Awesome Buick Riveria Concept](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/awesome-buick-riveria-concept/28135/3): > > ^Truth, +rep W00t, my first +rep :rofl ---
**Author:** ![TurboTravis](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/turbotravis/32/6406_2.png) [@TurboTravis](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/TurboTravis)\ **Post date:** [January 8, 2010, 1:49pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/smartphones-comparison-side-by-side/249589/66 "2010-01-08T13:49:51Z")
> [@04/22/2007 ECC-N WNY Event 1 Thread](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/04-22-2007-ecc-n-wny-event-1-thread/27647/288): > > You know what’s even funnier? People (Shady and K20) bashing the Palm Pre not realizing that the iPhone and Palm Pre have almost the EXACT same hardware…(or at least it doesn’t seem like Shady/K20 knows this) > > Wait what?!? > > - Both the iPhone 3GS and the Palm Pre share the very same Cortex A8 processor, running at (almost) the same speed. iPhone uses Objective-C, which is very similar to C++. > > What does that mean? > > - It means that thanks to the new PDK, it should be a trivial task to port any of the thousand iPhone applications over to the Pre in a matter of weeks. > - But that’s not all. Both of them also feature a PowerVR SGX GPU. Even though the iPhone one has almost twice the power ( SGX535 -\> 28 MPolys/s vs SGX530 -\> 14 MPolys/s ), the architecture is the same. > - Plus, compiled C is the fastest thing you can get. Compare that to the simplest JS app you can get. > > Finally, guess who’s using exactly the same combo? The great Motorola Droid. > > See where I’m going? The iPhone was just passed by the Pre/Droid in my mind (since it was completely opened up to Devs) due to the fact that Apples OS still can’t do half the shit that Android and WebOS do. > > The only thing that Apple has on Palm is a better made product (quality). That’s it. Oh and more apps (which is about to change, QUICK). > > * * * > > **Also, Shady, if the Palm Pre was such a pile of shit as you suggest…why on earth would AT&T AND Verizon announce at their CES shows that they are getting Palm phones (obviously the Pre and Pixi). You know why? Because WebOS is a VERY good platform with a LOT of potential. Far more than anything Apple has on the iPhone right now.** > > > > [Ralph de la Vega: AT&T launching two webOS devices!](http://www.engadget.com/2010/01/06/atandt-launching-webos-device/) > > [Palm introduces Palm Pre Plus: 16GB, coming to Verizon on January 25th](http://www.engadget.com/2010/01/07/palm-introduces-palm-pre-plus-16gb-coming-to-verizon-on-januar/) > > Fact of the matter is…the Droid is the BEST phone right now. Period. But when it comes to the rest (iPhone/Pre/N1) they are all on the same playing field and the iPhone is slowly losing ground. > > The Pre is using the newest OS, had it’s SDK released WAY later than Android and Apple, and is about to start doing some work. > > **Call me stupid all you want, but I’m not giving up on a company that just joined the game (amongst these phones - I’m not talking about Treo’s, etc.) Obviously Android and Apple have a foothold in the market because they’ve been around for years. I don’t bounce around from phone to phone. I’m patient, and from the day I got my Pre until now, Palm has put a lot of work into it. And the Homebrew community is great.** Any of these phones will store a females number-concentrate on that:) ---
**Author:** ![Mafdark](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/mafdark/32/6322_2.png) [@Mafdark](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Mafdark)\ **Post date:** [January 8, 2010, 3:27pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/smartphones-comparison-side-by-side/249589/67 "2010-01-08T15:27:01Z")
Palm pre sucks ass. Ilya, I don’t care what numbers you put together. On a functional level the phone is hopeless. The speaker, service, interface, apps, build quality, storage space, and speed are all beyond awful. ---
**Author:** ![grimmickb](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/5e9695/32.png) [@grimmickb](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/grimmickb)\ **Post date:** [January 8, 2010, 4:59pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/smartphones-comparison-side-by-side/249589/68 "2010-01-08T16:59:17Z")
> [@FS: Nextel Blackberry 7520](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/fs-nextel-blackberry-7520/27924/19): > > Fucking hate that map, it’s such BS. Verizon 3G is different that AT&T 3G > > Here is the AT&T EDGE data map: AT&Ts Edge Network is their Voice network similar to Verizons “1X” network. This is the network all voice calls/non picture texts go through. ---
**Author:** ![AMD\_IS\_THE\_BEST](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/amd_is_the_best/32/6342_2.png) [@AMD\_IS\_THE\_BEST](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/AMD_IS_THE_BEST)\ **Post date:** [January 8, 2010, 5:50pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/smartphones-comparison-side-by-side/249589/69 "2010-01-08T17:50:53Z")
> [@:tdown: to Mike Smith GMC/Buick/Pontiac](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/tdown-to-mike-smith-gmc-buick-pontiac/28128/100): > > AT&Ts Edge Network is their Voice network similar to Verizons “1X” network. This is the network all voice calls/non picture texts go through. Not even close. Please try again. ---
**Author:** ![Ilya](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/ilya/32/6404_2.png) [@Ilya](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Ilya)\ **Post date:** [January 8, 2010, 6:48pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/smartphones-comparison-side-by-side/249589/70 "2010-01-08T18:48:59Z")
> [@Got a ride in a 2007 Corvette Z06 today](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/got-a-ride-in-a-2007-corvette-z06-today/28162/2): > > Palm pre sucks ass. Ilya, I don’t care what numbers you put together. On a functional level the phone is hopeless. The speaker, service, interface, apps, build quality, storage space, and speed are all beyond awful. EDIT: I’m not going to bother. What do I care if everyone but me on Shift518 hates the Pre? Lol. I am very happy with mine and after using the iPhone and Droid, I don’t see how it’s any worse or better. They all bring different things to the table. Suit yourself, I couldn’t care less. I’m one of the happy people when it comes to Sprints service/customer service and Palms first smart phone. Palm’s done a great job standing behind the homebrew community and listening. ---
**Author:** ![Murrdog9000](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/murrdog9000/32/6391_2.png) [@Murrdog9000](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Murrdog9000)\ **Post date:** [January 8, 2010, 7:21pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/smartphones-comparison-side-by-side/249589/71 "2010-01-08T19:21:25Z")
> [@Ilya"](#): > > EDIT: I’m not going to bother. What do I care if everyone but me on Shift518 hates the Pre? Lol. I am very happy with mine and after using the iPhone and Droid, I don’t see how it’s any worse or better. They all bring different things to the table. Suit yourself, I couldn’t care less. I’m one of the happy people when it comes to Sprints service/customer service and Palms first smart phone. Palm’s done a great job standing behind the homebrew community and listening. your phone suckkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkks ---
**Author:** ![TurboTravis](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/turbotravis/32/6406_2.png) [@TurboTravis](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/TurboTravis)\ **Post date:** [January 8, 2010, 10:38pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/smartphones-comparison-side-by-side/249589/72 "2010-01-08T22:38:59Z")
> [@Ilya"](#): > > EDIT: I’m not going to bother. What do I care if everyone but me on Shift518 hates the Pre? Lol. I am very happy with mine and after using the iPhone and Droid, I don’t see how it’s any worse or better. They all bring different things to the table. Suit yourself, I couldn’t care less. I’m one of the happy people when it comes to Sprints service/customer service and Palms first smart phone. Palm’s done a great job standing behind the homebrew community and listening. No one cares what phone you prefer. ---
**Author:** ![Shady](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/6de8d8/32.png) [@Shady](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Shady)\ **Post date:** [January 9, 2010, 7:54am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/smartphones-comparison-side-by-side/249589/73 "2010-01-09T07:54:26Z")
> [@04/22/2007 ECC-N WNY Event 1 Thread](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/04-22-2007-ecc-n-wny-event-1-thread/27647/288): > > You know what’s even funnier? People (Shady and K20) bashing the Palm Pre not realizing that the iPhone and Palm Pre have almost the EXACT same hardware…(or at least it doesn’t seem like Shady/K20 knows this) > > Wait what?!? > > - Both the iPhone 3GS and the Palm Pre share the very same Cortex A8 processor, running at (almost) the same speed. iPhone uses Objective-C, which is very similar to C++. > > What does that mean? > > - It means that thanks to the new PDK, it should be a trivial task to port any of the thousand iPhone applications over to the Pre in a matter of weeks. > - But that’s not all. Both of them also feature a PowerVR SGX GPU. Even though the iPhone one has almost twice the power ( SGX535 -\> 28 MPolys/s vs SGX530 -\> 14 MPolys/s ), the architecture is the same. > - Plus, compiled C is the fastest thing you can get. Compare that to the simplest JS app you can get. > > Finally, guess who’s using exactly the same combo? The great Motorola Droid. > > See where I’m going? The iPhone was just passed by the Pre/Droid in my mind (since it was completely opened up to Devs) due to the fact that Apples OS still can’t do half the shit that Android and WebOS do. > > The only thing that Apple has on Palm is a better made product (quality). That’s it. Oh and more apps (which is about to change, QUICK). > > * * * > > **Also, Shady, if the Palm Pre was such a pile of shit as you suggest…why on earth would AT&T AND Verizon announce at their CES shows that they are getting Palm phones (obviously the Pre and Pixi). You know why? Because WebOS is a VERY good platform with a LOT of potential. Far more than anything Apple has on the iPhone right now.** > > > > [Ralph de la Vega: AT&T launching two webOS devices!](http://www.engadget.com/2010/01/06/atandt-launching-webos-device/) > > [Palm introduces Palm Pre Plus: 16GB, coming to Verizon on January 25th](http://www.engadget.com/2010/01/07/palm-introduces-palm-pre-plus-16gb-coming-to-verizon-on-januar/) > > Fact of the matter is…the Droid is the BEST phone right now. Period. But when it comes to the rest (iPhone/Pre/N1) they are all on the same playing field and the iPhone is slowly losing ground. > > The Pre is using the newest OS, had it’s SDK released WAY later than Android and Apple, and is about to start doing some work. > > **Call me stupid all you want, but I’m not giving up on a company that just joined the game (amongst these phones - I’m not talking about Treo’s, etc.) Obviously Android and Apple have a foothold in the market because they’ve been around for years. I don’t bounce around from phone to phone. I’m patient, and from the day I got my Pre until now, Palm has put a lot of work into it. And the Homebrew community is great.** Okay first off, I never got into a hardware battle, most smartphones share internals as well, thats how it goes, Im aware that the iphone/pre and a few other phoens share the same processors/memory chips etc… WHy were bashing it has nothing to do with the hardware inside the phone, your making an argument that never existed in the first place. The pre’s design is horrible, everyone I know except a few who have pikced it up and used it dident like it, its small and dinkey feeling. The buttons feel horrible, and the phone feels like the 6 dollar toy camera phone I bought for my daughter cause it makes cool noises. WebOS as it stands right now is a Piece of shit. Palm was way late in teh game in allowing any sort of customization and for the average phone user no one wants go outside the realm of palm, they dont want to download this 3rd party app store bullshit. The pixi or whatever its called looks horrible, its extremely cheap looking and mine as well be a pre without the slide out keyboard… It’s great you like your pre and it works for you, i dont think any less of you for owning one, to each his own. You can sit there and back the Pre up all you want, there way to late in the game right now and unless they come out with someone serious there going to remain in the back of the pack when it comes to smartphones. am i an iphone fanboi? no, I just like the iphone for what it is, nicely styled, smooth clean interface… tons of applications for mutliple things and anyone can used one with ease, even my dad could figure and iphone out… thats impressive. I’ve been a big fan of android since day 1 of its release, its just unfortunate it was on a dumpy carrier like t-mobile… I was going to get the G1 originaly but due to lack of hardly any 3G around here I stayed away from it. Since the eres and Droid came out thou its opened up a lot more people to android and its capabilities, on top of that they put it on a serious phone. The iphone and droid are going to be doing some serious battle over the next year and maybe years to come, im sure apples going to step up their game a bit, and im still really anxious to see where the iphone and android platforms go… As far as the pre, its goign to be standing in the shadows ---
**Author:** ![JClark](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/jclark/32/6309_2.png) [@JClark](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/JClark)\ **Post date:** [January 9, 2010, 7:59am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/smartphones-comparison-side-by-side/249589/74 "2010-01-09T07:59:10Z")
Nerd war! My phone works substantially more often than my AT&T friends’ do nationwide. That’s all that matters. BAM! And Verizon is bringing the pain in the future with 4G. AT&T left in the dizzust. BAM! ---
**Author:** ![Mike3](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/mike3/32/6350_2.png) [@Mike3](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Mike3)\ **Post date:** [January 9, 2010, 8:40am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/smartphones-comparison-side-by-side/249589/75 "2010-01-09T08:40:31Z")
Ask Pete/Sean who had service/3G when we went snowboarding at Jiminy. Hint: it wasn’t the iPhone fanboiz! ---
**Author:** ![6SPD\_S4](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/6spd_s4/32/6326_2.png) [@6SPD\_S4](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/6SPD_S4)\ **Post date:** [January 9, 2010, 8:56am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/smartphones-comparison-side-by-side/249589/76 "2010-01-09T08:56:02Z")
> [@Finally back together...again \*pics\*](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/finally-back-together-again-pics/28141/42): > > Ask Pete/Sean who had service/3G when we went snowboarding at Jiminy. Hint: it wasn’t the iPhone fanboiz! Neg rep ---
**Author:** ![psi2high](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/psi2high/32/6320_2.png) [@psi2high](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/psi2high)\ **Post date:** [January 9, 2010, 11:35am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/smartphones-comparison-side-by-side/249589/77 "2010-01-09T11:35:12Z")
Actuallu I did have service cause stallmer texted me ---
**Author:** ![OMGSIIK](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/omgsiik/32/6489_2.png) [@OMGSIIK](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/OMGSIIK)\ **Post date:** [January 9, 2010, 5:32pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/smartphones-comparison-side-by-side/249589/78 "2010-01-09T17:32:01Z")
> [@Finally back together...again \*pics\*](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/finally-back-together-again-pics/28141/48): > > Actuallu I did have service cause stallmer texted me reply to this now fanboi lol. I hope you’re freezing your ass off in Lake Placid. :rofl ---
**Author:** ![6SPD\_S4](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/6spd_s4/32/6326_2.png) [@6SPD\_S4](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/6SPD_S4)\ **Post date:** [January 9, 2010, 5:51pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/smartphones-comparison-side-by-side/249589/79 "2010-01-09T17:51:17Z")
> [@Finally back together...again \*pics\*](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/finally-back-together-again-pics/28141/48): > > Actuallu I did have service cause stallmer texted me I concur ---
**Author:** ![Mafdark](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/mafdark/32/6322_2.png) [@Mafdark](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Mafdark)\ **Post date:** [January 10, 2010, 1:36pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/smartphones-comparison-side-by-side/249589/80 "2010-01-10T13:36:32Z")
Iyla, I want you to do this test: [http://vimeo.com/8569827](http://vimeo.com/8569827) and try and get a video of you doing it. I’m not going to do it, because like all pre apps its a buck for just a stupid “sketch” app. [Previous page](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/smartphones-comparison-side-by-side/249589.md?page=3) [Next page](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/smartphones-comparison-side-by-side/249589.md?page=5)