# Smoking at the work place? Laws ect? **URL:** \ **Category:** NYSpeed Off Topic\ **Created:** [October 24, 2011, 2:38pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/smoking-at-the-work-place-laws-ect/217775 "2011-10-24T14:38:23Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 3
**Author:** ![superfan99](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/96bed5/32.png) [@superfan99](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/superfan99)\ **Post date:** [October 26, 2011, 10:09am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/smoking-at-the-work-place-laws-ect/217775/41 "2011-10-26T10:09:41Z")
> [@Fry](#): > > Not for demanding safe working conditions. That’d be an easy lawsuit. Yep. There’s been a few of those around Buffalo in just the last couple of years. ---
**Author:** ![ProgRocker](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/progrocker/32/5434_2.png) [@ProgRocker](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/ProgRocker)\ **Post date:** [October 26, 2011, 10:14am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/smoking-at-the-work-place-laws-ect/217775/42 "2011-10-26T10:14:17Z")
pickup all the cigarette butts and dump them in their cars. Then say “oh well not my problem”. ---
**Author:** ![KuntryQuestTSi](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/kuntryquesttsi/32/5010_2.png) [@KuntryQuestTSi](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/KuntryQuestTSi)\ **Post date:** [October 26, 2011, 10:21am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/smoking-at-the-work-place-laws-ect/217775/43 "2011-10-26T10:21:49Z")
I won’t walk off, but I’ll play ball. It’s mostly one person thats been here for a while and thinks he owns the place. Really, he just washes cars. ---
**Author:** ![Fry](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/fry/32/7284_2.png) [@Fry](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Fry)\ **Post date:** [October 26, 2011, 10:23am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/smoking-at-the-work-place-laws-ect/217775/44 "2011-10-26T10:23:44Z")
lol just work hard for like 3 months and become his boss and fire him ---
**Author:** ![KuntryQuestTSi](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/kuntryquesttsi/32/5010_2.png) [@KuntryQuestTSi](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/KuntryQuestTSi)\ **Post date:** [October 26, 2011, 10:36am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/smoking-at-the-work-place-laws-ect/217775/45 "2011-10-26T10:36:23Z")
I’m just going to piss him off until he gets the point ---
**Author:** ![Karter](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/e480ec/32.png) [@Karter](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Karter)\ **Post date:** [October 26, 2011, 12:48pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/smoking-at-the-work-place-laws-ect/217775/46 "2011-10-26T12:48:33Z")
for some reason I feel an air horn or a squirt gun is in order here. ---
**Author:** ![drvnkd](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/drvnkd/32/109615_2.png) [@drvnkd](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/drvnkd)\ **Post date:** [October 26, 2011, 12:58pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/smoking-at-the-work-place-laws-ect/217775/47 "2011-10-26T12:58:25Z")
Put some acetylene torches near his door of choice then point out the NFPA standards? ---
**Author:** ![KuntryQuestTSi](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/kuntryquesttsi/32/5010_2.png) [@KuntryQuestTSi](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/KuntryQuestTSi)\ **Post date:** [October 26, 2011, 2:11pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/smoking-at-the-work-place-laws-ect/217775/48 "2011-10-26T14:11:50Z")
> [@Karter](#): > > for some reason I feel an air horn or a squirt gun is in order here. Air soft gun as a part of my hollween costume. ---
**Author:** ![somedude](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ecd19e/32.png) [@somedude](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/somedude)\ **Post date:** [October 26, 2011, 4:35pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/smoking-at-the-work-place-laws-ect/217775/49 "2011-10-26T16:35:21Z")
> [@Karter](#): > > for some reason I feel an air horn or a squirt gun is in order here. that would get the message across really fast. 20 FEET OUT THE DOOR _sound the horn_ _squirt the cancer_ ---
**Author:** ![KuntryQuestTSi](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/kuntryquesttsi/32/5010_2.png) [@KuntryQuestTSi](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/KuntryQuestTSi)\ **Post date:** [October 26, 2011, 5:10pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/smoking-at-the-work-place-laws-ect/217775/50 "2011-10-26T17:10:35Z")
I was just going to play james bond music over the PA, then once they get shot they will know it a no-no. Kinda like an invisble fence for a dog. ---
**Author:** ![somedude](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ecd19e/32.png) [@somedude](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/somedude)\ **Post date:** [October 26, 2011, 7:05pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/smoking-at-the-work-place-laws-ect/217775/51 "2011-10-26T19:05:53Z")
make no smoking indoor announcements on the PA? ---
**Author:** ![1QIKZ](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/1qikz/32/6112_2.png) [@1QIKZ](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/1QIKZ)\ **Post date:** [October 27, 2011, 4:38am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/smoking-at-the-work-place-laws-ect/217775/52 "2011-10-27T04:38:37Z")
I think people have leaned on smokers so hard in the last few years that they’ve really developed an “I don’t give a shit anymore” attitude. They have so few places they can smoke that they probably wouldn’t be accomodating as they normally would. ---
**Author:** ![ProgRocker](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/progrocker/32/5434_2.png) [@ProgRocker](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/ProgRocker)\ **Post date:** [October 27, 2011, 4:45am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/smoking-at-the-work-place-laws-ect/217775/53 "2011-10-27T04:45:25Z")
More of a reason to quit. ---
**Author:** ![drvnkd](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/drvnkd/32/109615_2.png) [@drvnkd](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/drvnkd)\ **Post date:** [October 27, 2011, 5:20am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/smoking-at-the-work-place-laws-ect/217775/54 "2011-10-27T05:20:08Z")
I love walking into the breezway just inside of where the smoking area is at work. Its a free reminder of how smokers all smell. ---
**Author:** ![1QIKZ](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/1qikz/32/6112_2.png) [@1QIKZ](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/1QIKZ)\ **Post date:** [October 27, 2011, 5:57am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/smoking-at-the-work-place-laws-ect/217775/55 "2011-10-27T05:57:52Z")
> [@ProgRocker](#): > > More of a reason to quit. I think alcohol and drunk drivers have a greater impact on the lives of others yet no one goes and complains to the bar owner that they’re offended people are drinking. Just sayin. ---
**Author:** ![JayS](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/jays/32/15375_2.png) [@JayS](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/JayS)\ **Post date:** [October 27, 2011, 6:28am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/smoking-at-the-work-place-laws-ect/217775/56 "2011-10-27T06:28:25Z")
> [@1QIKZ](#): > > I think alcohol and drunk drivers have a greater impact on the lives of others yet no one goes and complains to the bar owner that they’re offended people are drinking. Just sayin. Actually bartenders are legally responsible for letting people get grossly intoxicated, and there’s plenty of complaining about DWI coming from groups like MADD and the insurance lobby. Beside that, unlike smoking which has been proven dangerous for those directly around you a guy getting drunk next to me has zero direct effect on my health. If smokers weren’t such assholes I think anti-smoking legislation would have a much harder time. But every time you’re driving around and some piece of shit tosses his cigarette butt out his window, or a non-smoker has to wade through a cloud of nicotine addicts standing just outside a door support for higher cigarette taxes and stricter smoking laws just keeps going up. ---
**Author:** ![KuntryQuestTSi](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/kuntryquesttsi/32/5010_2.png) [@KuntryQuestTSi](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/KuntryQuestTSi)\ **Post date:** [October 27, 2011, 6:56am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/smoking-at-the-work-place-laws-ect/217775/57 "2011-10-27T06:56:43Z")
> [@1QIKZ](#): > > I think alcohol and drunk drivers have a greater impact on the lives of others yet no one goes and complains to the bar owner that they’re offended people are drinking. Just sayin. Oh yes, because smokers don’t effect people with asthma or kids that have to grow up around 2nd hand smoke. ---
**Author:** ![1QIKZ](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/1qikz/32/6112_2.png) [@1QIKZ](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/1QIKZ)\ **Post date:** [October 27, 2011, 7:09am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/smoking-at-the-work-place-laws-ect/217775/58 "2011-10-27T07:09:26Z")
> [@JayS](#): > > Actually bartenders are legally responsible for letting people get grossly intoxicated, and there’s plenty of complaining about DWI coming from groups like MADD and the insurance lobby. Beside that, unlike smoking which has been proven dangerous for those directly around you a guy getting drunk next to me has zero direct effect on my health. > > If smokers weren’t such assholes I think anti-smoking legislation would have a much harder time. But every time you’re driving around and some piece of shit tosses his cigarette butt out his window, or a non-smoker has to wade through a cloud of nicotine addicts standing just outside a door support for higher cigarette taxes and stricter smoking laws just keeps going up. The guy getting drunk next to you doesn’t affect you but wipes out someone’s family member after he pats you on the back and stumbles out the door. I see your point on the littering but I’ve seen much worse. Smokers were pushed out if bars and resraurants to outside areas and I don’t have a problem with that, but then people complain about walking through their smoke outside. I’m not denying the affects of smoking on others but I think there’s a difference between walking through smoke on occasion and working in a bar loaded with smokers. Everyone wants their freedoms but there is usually something people do that bothers others so can we all ask to ban all offenses from everyone? ---
**Author:** ![JayS](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/jays/32/15375_2.png) [@JayS](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/JayS)\ **Post date:** [October 27, 2011, 7:25am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/smoking-at-the-work-place-laws-ect/217775/59 "2011-10-27T07:25:56Z")
You seem to be confusing “offensive” with “damaging”. It’s not offensive to force people to walk through your clouds of smoke because you refuse to move away from the entrance to a building, it’s proven bad for their health. At no point have the freedoms of this country allowed you to knowingly hurt other people. The Westboro Church is offensive, but it’s their right to sit there and be offensive. The minute they go from blowing hot air to smoke though, they’re done. And the whole DWI comparison is totally off point. DWI is already illegal no matter how you cut it. ---
**Author:** ![1QIKZ](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/1qikz/32/6112_2.png) [@1QIKZ](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/1QIKZ)\ **Post date:** [October 27, 2011, 8:46am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/smoking-at-the-work-place-laws-ect/217775/60 "2011-10-27T08:46:40Z")
DWI is a result of alcohol consumption just as health concerns are a result of inhalation of smoke. Smoking affects others around smokers, just as alcohol affects others around drinkers. Those affected by either did not make the choice. We could go on forever debating this. Even if I were a non-smoker I would advocate smoker’s rights. The only way to totally solve a problem is a complete ban of the source. Are we ready for a nationwide smoking ban, repeal of gun rights, a second prohibition? How far do we go? [Previous page](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/smoking-at-the-work-place-laws-ect/217775.md?page=2) [Next page](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/smoking-at-the-work-place-laws-ect/217775.md?page=4)