# Smoking Ban injunction **URL:** \ **Category:** PittSpeed Off Topic\ **Created:** [December 22, 2006, 1:23pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/smoking-ban-injunction/186965 "2006-12-22T13:23:29Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 1\ **Showing post:** 28
**Author:** ![Darkstar](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/b487fb/32.png) [@Darkstar](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Darkstar)\ **Post date:** [December 26, 2006, 3:58pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/smoking-ban-injunction/186965/28 "2006-12-26T15:58:04Z")
> [@New headlights](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/new-headlights/26852/5): > > 1: I don’t give a fuck about the constitution. It was written nearly 230 years ago, when the United States had a population of a little under 4 million, at the height of European imperialism. Read some Alexander Hamilton. With a few exceptions, he knew what was up, even 230 years ago. (But don’t think I’m ignorant of the constitution’s contents; Poli Sci has always been my thing.) > > 2: The government has a duty to ensure the greatest society possible while infringing as little as possible regarding the rights of the individual. Cocaine _should_ be illegal. Free trade agreements fuck the American worker in the ass, and exploit the foreign worker, so that the bourgeoisie can profit while his “brothers” go unemployed. > > 3: I don’t have a NetFlix account, I usually eat pizza at the restaurant, and I totally agree about the two party system. The Republicans have at least two factions: You have the absurdist, religious Republicans, who believe in upholding a ridiculous moral standard and ENLARGING the size of government (contrary to their party’s intended aim). Then you have the classic Republicans, whose interests are more served by the libertarian party at this point. As for the Democrats, they’re a fucking train wreck. There is no FDR over here. Fuck, there’s not even a McGovern. These assholes in my party are so worried about political correctness and not saying the wrong thing that all they do is meekly naysay anything the conservatives say, or quietly agree with it. > > So yeah, I’d love to see party choices more in line with ideologies. I’d love to have the ability to register for a social democracy party, or Federalist party, or even a Democratic party that is more in line with FDR era Democratic thought. everything there is spot on. However: I am a bar owner. Its my building, on my property. I can choose who I do and do not allow into my establishment. I can choose when I’m opened and when I’m not. I’m a home owner. Its my building on my property. I can choose who I do and don’t allow into my house, and I can choose when they can and can’t be there. The patrons that come to my establishment are there at their own free will, in the same way that any friends that come to my house are there at their own free will. For the govt to tell me that I’m not allowed to let my patrons smoke in my bar is no different than the government telling me that I’m not allowed to let my friends smoke in my house. Its a gross invasion of privacy. That being said, I’m a smoker and I have no problem with the government jacking up taxes on cigarettes to a completely unreasonable level, so long as those taxes go towards healthcare. That way its an incentive to stop smoking, and it at least helps to relieve the burden on non-smoking taxpayers when it comes to smoking-related illnesses. --- _[View the full topic](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/smoking-ban-injunction/186965)._