# Smoking Ban **URL:** \ **Category:** PittSpeed Off Topic\ **Created:** [July 6, 2006, 12:18pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/smoking-ban/183365 "2006-07-06T12:18:24Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 5
**Author:** ![OLDS\_ROCKETMAN](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/olds_rocketman/32/5942_2.png) [@OLDS\_ROCKETMAN](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/OLDS_ROCKETMAN)\ **Post date:** [July 7, 2006, 8:22am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/smoking-ban/183365/81 "2006-07-07T08:22:32Z")
> [@Blackbelt](#): > > Un-fucking-believeable! Is this what you REALLY want? I can just hear the fucking bitching pissing moaning and whining when some fucking busy body bug up there ass group comes after the car enthusiasts and performance companies. Take your pick, they don’t like: > Loud exhaust > Nitrous > Forced induction > (fill in the blank) > I mean, after all, all this modifying of cars is just to make them faster and be able to speed, whichi s dangerous for (fill in the blank). Therefore, they need to be banned, since i don’t like them, and they are dangerous to my health. > Government control is not a good thing. They WILL come for you sooner or later kiddies, it’s only a matter of time. Stop being so fucking selfish. There is no part of the US constitution(i have read it, have you?) that guarantees you the right to not be annoyed. The governemnt is not the solution. More laws are not the solution. I see some of the posts here and it scares me. WTF??? Stop voluntarily giving away freedoms! GRRRRRRRRR…sorry to come on so strong but this really pisses me off when i see this. > This is simple. Either ban tobacco completely, or leave it the fuck alone. They will not ban it, becasue as politcians, they are a bunch of fucking hypocrites! They want the damn tax money! If smoking is so bad, then BAN IT COMPLETELY! > BTW, before anyone starts on me, i do not smoke. But that should not matter. I think wasing my clothes and taking a shower after going out is a small price to pay to keep the governement out of another part of my liberty. i believe green peace and the EPA and all the tree huggers would love to see ur car in a crusher. so we already have that, i don’t think the comparison between the two is very strong. people will say if you don;t wanna smell smoke don’t go clubbin, i say if you wanna smoke don’t go clubbin. ---
**Author:** ![Pewter](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/pewter/32/5936_2.png) [@Pewter](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Pewter)\ **Post date:** [July 7, 2006, 8:24am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/smoking-ban/183365/82 "2006-07-07T08:24:51Z")
smoke this :bj: ---
**Author:** ![2toneishot](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/2toneishot/32/6010_2.png) [@2toneishot](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/2toneishot)\ **Post date:** [July 7, 2006, 8:27am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/smoking-ban/183365/83 "2006-07-07T08:27:08Z")
> [@rmrider897](#): > > i want you to have to sit at home and smoke in your living room and die there. HAHAHAHAHA thats great. ---
**Author:** ![rmrider897](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/aeb1de/32.png) [@rmrider897](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/rmrider897)\ **Post date:** [July 7, 2006, 8:35am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/smoking-ban/183365/84 "2006-07-07T08:35:03Z")
> [@fshowcars](#): > > at least my point the entire time is that what individuals want doesn’t mean dick. > > too bad i dont smoke, you’re goign to have to hope i die another way. too bad its more than one individual. OBVIOUSLY :blah: :blah: :blah: ---
**Author:** ![fshowcars](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/fshowcars/32/5937_2.png) [@fshowcars](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/fshowcars)\ **Post date:** [July 7, 2006, 8:48am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/smoking-ban/183365/85 "2006-07-07T08:48:59Z")
> [@rmrider897](#): > > too bad its more than one individual. OBVIOUSLY > > :blah: :blah: :blah: do you honestly need explained the difference between individual and collective rights? :doh: ---
**Author:** ![mustang03gt](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/35a633/32.png) [@mustang03gt](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/mustang03gt)\ **Post date:** [July 7, 2006, 9:49am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/smoking-ban/183365/86 "2006-07-07T09:49:18Z")
> [@fshowcars](#): > > at least my point the entire time is that what individuals want doesn’t mean dick. > > too bad i dont smoke, you’re goign to have to hope i die another way. lol nice ---
**Author:** ![rmrider897](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/aeb1de/32.png) [@rmrider897](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/rmrider897)\ **Post date:** [July 7, 2006, 9:55am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/smoking-ban/183365/87 "2006-07-07T09:55:32Z")
> [@fshowcars](#): > > do you honestly need explained the difference between individual and collective rights? :doh: No thats why people who were voted into office by a majority will make the final decision. ---
**Author:** ![Blackbelt](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/blackbelt/32/5998_2.png) [@Blackbelt](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Blackbelt)\ **Post date:** [July 7, 2006, 10:27am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/smoking-ban/183365/88 "2006-07-07T10:27:46Z")
> [@Cutty](#): > > i believe green peace and the EPA and all the tree huggers would love to see ur car in a crusher. so we already have that, i don’t think the comparison between the two is very strong. > > people will say if you don;t wanna smell smoke don’t go clubbin, i say if you wanna smoke don’t go clubbin. Those groups you mention have other priorities right now. Doesn’t mean they(or some other group, think MADD), won’t come after us…The analogy remains accurate. Inscribed on the Holocaust memorial in Boston: They came first for the Communists, and I didn’t speak up because I wasn’t a Communist. ``` Then they came for the Jews, and I didn't speak up because I wasn't a Jew. Then they came for the trade unionists, and I didn't speak up because I wasn't a trade unionist. Then they came for the Catholics, and I didn't speak up because I was a Protestant. Then they came for me, and by that time no one was left to speak up. ``` ---
**Author:** ![imported\_Sleeper](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/imported_sleeper/32/5939_2.png) [@imported\_Sleeper](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/imported_Sleeper)\ **Post date:** [July 7, 2006, 10:31am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/smoking-ban/183365/89 "2006-07-07T10:31:31Z")
besides being very bad for u…the only problem i see see for smokers is that there is only 20 cigs per pack and 24 beers a case,now thats a major problem! ---
**Author:** ![Blackbelt](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/blackbelt/32/5998_2.png) [@Blackbelt](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Blackbelt)\ **Post date:** [July 7, 2006, 10:54am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/smoking-ban/183365/90 "2006-07-07T10:54:35Z")
> [@SleeperGTP](#): > > besides being very bad for u…the only problem i see see for smokers is that there is only 20 cigs per pack and 24 beers a case,now thats a major problem! 🤣 🤣 🤣 🤣 ---
**Author:** ![Dominator](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/a4c791/32.png) [@Dominator](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Dominator)\ **Post date:** [July 7, 2006, 11:00am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/smoking-ban/183365/91 "2006-07-07T11:00:52Z")
I know how you can get this bill to stop dead in its tracks. All smokers boycott smoking in bars and clubs on their own. Apperently you guys know your being dicks to non smokers. That shit is a bit more pervasive than exhaust for comuters. quit making stupid analogies, its making me furious. ---
**Author:** ![2toneishot](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/2toneishot/32/6010_2.png) [@2toneishot](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/2toneishot)\ **Post date:** [July 7, 2006, 11:09am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/smoking-ban/183365/92 "2006-07-07T11:09:02Z")
> [@whitey](#): > > I am sure you are building an emissions friendly Sr20 then too… right? who cares?? i dont remember the emissions from my 240 making anyones clothes smell bad, or teeth yellow or restricting anyones blood vessels?? so what does my 240 have anything to do with smoking?? lets stay focused. im talking about how annoying it is to be in a club/restaraunt/bar and when i leave i smell like an ashtray cause someone else decides to ruin their life… ---
**Author:** ![fshowcars](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/fshowcars/32/5937_2.png) [@fshowcars](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/fshowcars)\ **Post date:** [July 7, 2006, 11:12am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/smoking-ban/183365/93 "2006-07-07T11:12:57Z")
> [@2toneishot](#): > > who cares?? i dont remember the emissions from my 240 making anyones clothes smell bad, or teeth yellow or restricting anyones blood vessels?? so what does my 240 have anything to do with smoking?? lets stay focused. im talking about how annoying it is to be in a club/restaraunt/bar and when i leave i smell like an ashtray cause someone else decides to ruin their life… are you seriously that fucking retarded that you see second hand smoke as an inconvienence and not a health issue? that would make more sense, as to why your posts lack any intelligible thought or reasoning. unfiltered emissions from your 240 can easily kill you, equal to or more so than 100% second hand smoke intake… wtf, the entire point of the ‘ban’ is revolving around air pollution! ---
**Author:** ![LaurenCBR](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/f19dbf/32.png) [@LaurenCBR](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/LaurenCBR)\ **Post date:** [July 7, 2006, 11:16am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/smoking-ban/183365/94 "2006-07-07T11:16:36Z")
> [@2toneishot](#): > > who cares?? i dont remember the emissions from my 240 making anyones clothes smell bad, or teeth yellow or restricting anyones blood vessels?? so what does my 240 have anything to do with smoking?? lets stay focused. im talking about how annoying it is to be in a club/restaraunt/bar and when i leave i smell like an ashtray cause someone else decides to ruin their life… First of all, the emissions from your 240 are pure. Because your 240 doesnt run. Even if they banned smoking inside, you’re still going to have to walk through it outside or anywhere else in public so either bust out the Febreze or don’t go out if youre so distraught by the smell. Smoking sucks. The government sucks. I can’t believe there’s 7 pages of this conversation. ---
**Author:** ![2toneishot](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/2toneishot/32/6010_2.png) [@2toneishot](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/2toneishot)\ **Post date:** [July 7, 2006, 11:17am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/smoking-ban/183365/95 "2006-07-07T11:17:24Z")
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**Author:** ![Blackbelt](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/blackbelt/32/5998_2.png) [@Blackbelt](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Blackbelt)\ **Post date:** [July 7, 2006, 11:20am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/smoking-ban/183365/96 "2006-07-07T11:20:36Z")
> [@Domination](#): > > I know how you can get this bill to stop dead in its tracks. All smokers boycott smoking in bars and clubs on their own. Apperently you guys know your being dicks to non smokers. That shit is a bit more pervasive than exhaust for comuters. quit making stupid analogies, its making me furious. I think you are missing the point of this discussion. The point is that government dictating policy to a privately owned business is wrong. If you(and i use the term ‘you’ in a generic sense here) don’t like the smoke in a bar/club/restaurant/whorehouse, then complain to the owners of the establishments. If there is TRULY a majority demand for a non smoking facility, the market will dictate that and will respond. If there isn’t a majority demand, then why is it fair for the demands of a vocal few to be forced upon the majority who do not wish for this. The government doesn’t give a fuck about your health. If they really did, they would ban all tobacco products and be done with it. I truly cannot understand the mindset of wanting to turn over so much power and control to a government. :dunno: :dunno: ---
**Author:** ![2toneishot](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/2toneishot/32/6010_2.png) [@2toneishot](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/2toneishot)\ **Post date:** [July 7, 2006, 11:23am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/smoking-ban/183365/97 "2006-07-07T11:23:25Z")
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**Author:** ![rmrider897](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/aeb1de/32.png) [@rmrider897](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/rmrider897)\ **Post date:** [July 7, 2006, 11:28am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/smoking-ban/183365/98 "2006-07-07T11:28:42Z")
> [@fshowcars](#): > > are you seriously that fucking retarded that you see second hand smoke as an inconvienence and not a health issue? that would make more sense, as to why your posts lack any intelligible thought or reasoning. > > unfiltered emissions from your 240 can easily kill you, equal to or more so than 100% second hand smoke intake… wtf, the entire point of the ‘ban’ is revolving around air pollution! I want the ban. But my single voice doesnt matter. Now if law makers ban it (people who you all VOTE into office), I’ll be happy. If they don’t ban in, I’ll accept it. ---
**Author:** ![beat90tsi](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/43a26b/32.png) [@beat90tsi](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/beat90tsi)\ **Post date:** [July 7, 2006, 11:43am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/smoking-ban/183365/99 "2006-07-07T11:43:49Z")
I’ll agree to ban smoking in pubilc, so long as the bill includes a ban on the following: -Partially hydrogenated soybean oil -High fructose corn syrup -Chocholate cake The Health care costs of obesity in America have exceeded the smoking costs. That means, quit bitching at smokers because you’re a whiny bitch who can’t stand smoke in his/her eyes, and start boycotting KFC and Cold Stone Creamery. I have an idea, let’s put a height/weight chart in every restaurant, and make everyone stand on a scale before ordering. If you are deemed a fatty by your height/weight rating, you are only allowed to buy salad, and drink water. That way we’ll keep these gluttonous morons from ruining our already struggling health-care system. At least smokers die a lot faster if/when they get lung cancer. Fat people drain the system for years with their high blood pressure pills and heart surgeries. It’s time to lay off the smokers and start going after the fatties. (If you are fat, and you read this, I make no apologies. Nobody forces you to eat. ) I think I’m going to go buy a pack of smokes. Nicotine is a laxative, so technically, smoking helps fight our worst health care burden, obesity. ---
**Author:** ![imported\_Sleeper](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/imported_sleeper/32/5939_2.png) [@imported\_Sleeper](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/imported_Sleeper)\ **Post date:** [July 7, 2006, 11:54am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/smoking-ban/183365/100 "2006-07-07T11:54:54Z")
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