# smoking **URL:** \ **Category:** PittSpeed Off Topic\ **Created:** [March 11, 2008, 3:48pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/smoking/196054 "2008-03-11T15:48:03Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 1\ **Showing post:** 36
**Author:** ![Blackbelt](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/blackbelt/32/5998_2.png) [@Blackbelt](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Blackbelt)\ **Post date:** [March 12, 2008, 9:52am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/smoking/196054/36 "2008-03-12T09:52:51Z")
> [@Buffalo Nightlife Help!!](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/buffalo-nightlife-help/35383/16): > > and probably because you’re a rational person that can understand that the government doesn’t need to be legislating restrictions on the liberties of the entire populous because one group finds something another group does to be a mild annoyance. If people really wanted non-smoking bars, there would be more non-smoking bars. Since you non-smokers love them so much, I’m sure you’d flock to them. And since you make up such a large segment of the bar-going population, owners that didnt make their bars non-smoking would lose so much business that they had to make theirs non-smoking too. > > Thats why all of the bars around here are already non-smoking, right? > > Right? > > Not to mention the fact that the bar owners rights are being trampled. It’s his business, his building. He can serve who he wants to, and no one is forced to go to his establishment. If you know that people smoke there, and you dislike it so much, DONT FUCKING GO THERE. Sorry, but this is exactly right. The beauty of the free market capitalistic society that we “almost” live in (i say almost because the government is getting WAY too intrusive) is that some entrepreneur will fill a need if there is a large enough market to support that need. As DS said above, if there is sufficient demand for a total non smoking bar or other tpye of establishment, then the market will supply it. Then we all will have the choice of which to support. As to the staff, VERY few people make a lifelong career out of waiting tables, so that argument is specious. The constant outcry for government intervention into every facet of our lives is troubling. this was a quote in this thread > What benefits do you get from smoking? NONE. You waste your money and in the end all it does is raise the cost of health insurance/healthcare for everyone else. Let me change a few of the words around. What benefits do you get from modding and driving a 400 HP car? NONE. You waste your money and in the end all it does is raise the cost of car insurance for everyone else. Trust me, there are a LOT of people who feel that way out there. WOuld you like it if they were crying to the government to restrict horsepower and our ability to modify and enjoy high performance machines? i doubt it. It really isn’t an apple to oranges comparison, since both involve government interference in private business and private lives. I do not smoke. But i would rather be mildly annoyed by Tom Vitos smoke than have the government pass yet another intrusive law taking away yet another piece of our freedoms. If the Government cared SO much about everyones health, and if they are only doing this to save lives, then ban all tobacco use. Completely. If it’s that bad, make it illegal. They won’t, because it’s a huge cash cow for politicians. So much for our government ‘caring’ about us. As long as it’s a legal product, stop treating it like it’s illegal, and stop interfering with private businesses. Otherwise, just ban it and be done with it! --- _[View the full topic](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/smoking/196054)._