# Snowpocalypse '14-'15 - Now 13 Deaths **URL:** \ **Category:** NYSpeed Off Topic\ **Created:** [November 17, 2014, 3:51am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/snowpocalypse-14-15-now-13-deaths/271107 "2014-11-17T03:51:48Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 34
**Author:** ![93dx\_hatch](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/9/90ced4/32.png) [@93dx\_hatch](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/93dx_hatch)\ **Post date:** [November 24, 2014, 7:52am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/snowpocalypse-14-15-now-13-deaths/271107/661 "2014-11-24T07:52:39Z")
I woke up Tuesday at 4am looked out the window and instantly went outside to clear my driveway thinking, I better stay on top of this because it was already over my snowblower. I cleared my driveway 6 more times that day, the rest of my neighborhood was doing nothing, I didn’t get it. Even the guys that are usually on top of everything all the time. I admit, I was a bit unprepared, and ran out of gas for my snowblower on day one. So I did what any capable individual would do, removed the backseat and fuel pump and filled my gas can and kept clearing my driveway. Kept it clear all day Wednesday and Thursday, this was not the storm to wait till it stops before I go out there. Now I feel like I owe my snowblower an oil change or some maintenance. ---
**Author:** ![boardjnky4](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/96bed5/32.png) [@boardjnky4](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/boardjnky4)\ **Post date:** [November 24, 2014, 7:58am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/snowpocalypse-14-15-now-13-deaths/271107/662 "2014-11-24T07:58:25Z")
> [@JayS](#): > > But between heart attacks and people like this lady who would rather curl up in her car and write her goodbyes than walk to warm buildings 100 feet away I’m not sure how much “the gubment” can do to help. > > [http://www.buffalonews.com/city-region/weather/engulfed-in-snow-stranded-motorist-felt-like-i-was-underground-buried-in-a-casket-20141122](http://www.buffalonews.com/city-region/weather/engulfed-in-snow-stranded-motorist-felt-like-i-was-underground-buried-in-a-casket-20141122) Right, I never said they could lol. Just seemed like a cold response from Prog so I called him out. We can’t just shrug off 12 deaths and pretend they didn’t happen. And I’m not saying the gov’t is at fault or that the gov’t should do anything. People died, and everyone that sees this story (regardless of where they live) should take it as a lesson to always be prepared for an emergency. There IS a lesson to be learned, so we shouldn’t move on until we acknowledge the lessons learned. ---
**Author:** ![ProgRocker](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/progrocker/32/5434_2.png) [@ProgRocker](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/ProgRocker)\ **Post date:** [November 24, 2014, 8:06am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/snowpocalypse-14-15-now-13-deaths/271107/663 "2014-11-24T08:06:46Z")
> [@JayS](#): > > But between heart attacks and people like this lady who would rather curl up in her car and write her goodbyes than walk to warm buildings 100 feet away I’m not sure how much “the gubment” can do to help. > > [http://www.buffalonews.com/city-region/weather/engulfed-in-snow-stranded-motorist-felt-like-i-was-underground-buried-in-a-casket-20141122](http://www.buffalonews.com/city-region/weather/engulfed-in-snow-stranded-motorist-felt-like-i-was-underground-buried-in-a-casket-20141122) She’s surrounded by tons of businesses restaurants and other places. She kept getting out to clear the snow from the tailpipe but didn’t just ditch the car and walk somewhere? - - - Updated - - - > [@boardjnky4](#): > > Right, I never said they could lol. Just seemed like a cold response from Prog so I called him out. We can’t just shrug off 12 deaths and pretend they didn’t happen. And I’m not saying the gov’t is at fault or that the gov’t should do anything. People died, and everyone that sees this story (regardless of where they live) should take it as a lesson to always be prepared for an emergency. There IS a lesson to be learned, so we shouldn’t move on until we acknowledge the lessons learned. Eh, it was kind of a cold response, I admit it. ---
**Author:** ![BOBBYGRV](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/ed8c4c/32.png) [@BOBBYGRV](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/BOBBYGRV)\ **Post date:** [November 24, 2014, 8:07am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/snowpocalypse-14-15-now-13-deaths/271107/664 "2014-11-24T08:07:23Z")
The only thing people will learn from that story is that if they sit around and wait for help, it will eventually come. Instead of actually making their situation better, they will once again rely on someone else. Another thing too…all these people bitching “Where is Tim Howard!?” He was delivering meals for meals on wheels, instead of standing in front of the camera, something that the same elected officials are doing right now. Also, the same ones calling out the NWS. This same group has an Agenda to push here and it starts at the top. ---
**Author:** ![boardjnky4](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/96bed5/32.png) [@boardjnky4](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/boardjnky4)\ **Post date:** [November 24, 2014, 8:12am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/snowpocalypse-14-15-now-13-deaths/271107/665 "2014-11-24T08:12:14Z")
> [@BOBBYGRV](#): > > The only thing people will learn from that story is that if they sit around and wait for help, it will eventually come. Instead of actually making their situation better, they will once again rely on someone else. > > Another thing too…all these people bitching “Where is Tim Howard!?” > > He was delivering meals for meals on wheels, instead of standing in front of the camera, something that the same elected officials are doing right now. Also, the same ones calling out the NWS. This same group has an Agenda to push here and it starts at the top. To clarify, I didn’t mean specifically the linked story (which is obviously confusing). I meant the “Buffalo Snow Storm - 12 people dead” story in a generic sense. ---
**Author:** ![LZ1](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/7ab992/32.png) [@LZ1](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/LZ1)\ **Post date:** [November 24, 2014, 8:14am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/snowpocalypse-14-15-now-13-deaths/271107/666 "2014-11-24T08:14:35Z")
That lady is an idiot If she had enough room to dig to her exhaust pipe should could have excited the snowbank and went to a number of businesses or homes in that area. ---
**Author:** ![ProgRocker](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/progrocker/32/5434_2.png) [@ProgRocker](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/ProgRocker)\ **Post date:** [November 24, 2014, 8:15am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/snowpocalypse-14-15-now-13-deaths/271107/667 "2014-11-24T08:15:40Z")
I thought Poloncarz did a great job with the efforts. Once the snow started coming, it wasn’t going to stop. So instead of people playing the blame game, they should have ran through a checklist. Do I have what I need? Should I start shoveling/snowblowing? Am I getting the latest weather information? OK which one of you was this :lol: ![http://i.imgur.com/dSVfsSW.png](http://i.imgur.com/dSVfsSW.png) ---
**Author:** ![BOBBYGRV](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/ed8c4c/32.png) [@BOBBYGRV](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/BOBBYGRV)\ **Post date:** [November 24, 2014, 8:21am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/snowpocalypse-14-15-now-13-deaths/271107/668 "2014-11-24T08:21:52Z")
> [@ProgRocker](#): > > I thought Poloncarz did a great job with the efforts. Once the snow started coming, it wasn’t going to stop. So instead of people playing the blame game, they should have ran through a checklist. Do I have what I need? Should I start shoveling/snowblowing? Am I getting the latest weather information? I thought him and Cuomo were doing great too until they started blasting the NWS and the people on the Thruway. Specifically Michael Wooten from WGRZ was blasting them at the press conference about why the Thruway was open. They then started blaming the NWS and the people for being on the Thruway. YOUR TOLL COLLECTORS GAVE THEM TICKETS TO GET ON THERE!!! After a while, the press conferences just turned into a back-patting fest between Cuomo, Poloncarz and Mayor Brown. It’s obvious to me that these guys are looking out for one another, but I already knew that from the elections… ---
**Author:** ![ProgRocker](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/progrocker/32/5434_2.png) [@ProgRocker](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/ProgRocker)\ **Post date:** [November 24, 2014, 8:24am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/snowpocalypse-14-15-now-13-deaths/271107/669 "2014-11-24T08:24:57Z")
> [@BOBBYGRV](#): > > I thought him and Cuomo were doing great too until they started blasting the NWS and the people on the Thruway. Specifically Michael Wooten from WGRZ was blasting them at the press conference about why the Thruway was open. They then started blaming the NWS and the people for being on the Thruway. YOUR TOLL COLLECTORS GAVE THEM TICKETS TO GET ON THERE!!! > > After a while, the press conferences just turned into a back-patting fest between Cuomo, Poloncarz and Mayor Brown. It’s obvious to me that these guys are looking out for one another, but I already knew that from the elections… And I think that happened after Cuomo came into the picture. All I though was Cuomo stepping in front of Poloncarz, waving his dick in the air saying “LOOK AT ME, I’M HERE FOR YOU BUFFALO, TO SAVE YOU” ---
**Author:** ![fairgentleman\_Z](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/fairgentleman_z/32/7263_2.png) [@fairgentleman\_Z](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/fairgentleman_Z)\ **Post date:** [November 24, 2014, 8:35am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/snowpocalypse-14-15-now-13-deaths/271107/670 "2014-11-24T08:35:25Z")
> [@focusinprogress](#): > > Some raw data and advice for everyone… > > snow weighs 1.25lb per square foot for every inch of depth. When you have 54" of snow on your roof that’s about 70lbs per square foot, for dry snow…most houses in Cheektowaga were built when 60lbs per square foot was required design load! > > SHOVEL OFF YOUR ROOF! Wet snow is much heavier but I don’t remember the rate to calculate vs the 1.25lb I quoted. > > As as for flooding, national weather service came in and took core samples of snow throughout the county and determined rainfall equivalents…the worst areas at 84" of snow equates to roughly 7" of rainfall, So you are saying that: 84" snow = 7" water 84 " x 1.25 lbs per square foot per inch = 105 lbs per square foot. However; 7" of water x 144 square inches ( aka square foot) = 1008 cubic inches = 4.36364 gallons = 36.415 lbs per square foot The news was spitting out the same math. One cubic foot of snow was about 20 pounds, but a foot of snow melts to 1" deep = 144 cubic inches of water = .6 gallons = 5 pounds. ---
**Author:** ![BOBBYGRV](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/ed8c4c/32.png) [@BOBBYGRV](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/BOBBYGRV)\ **Post date:** [November 24, 2014, 9:09am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/snowpocalypse-14-15-now-13-deaths/271107/671 "2014-11-24T09:09:02Z")
Cuomo is doing everything he can to get after that FEMA money. I wonder why… > The money came from a $200 million pool allocated by the Legislature and $37.5 million in federal disaster aid earmarked to promote tourism after Hurricane Sandy. > **[Gov. Cuomo’s administration spends $161 million on ads, marketing to promote...](https://www.nydailynews.com/2014/07/19/gov-cuomos-administration-spends-161-million-on-ads-marketing-to-promote-state-tourism/)** > > ALBANY — After a lengthy delay, Gov. Cuomo’s administration revealed that it has spent $113 million on radio and TV commercials touting New York as a destination for tourists and busine… ---
**Author:** ![ProgRocker](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/progrocker/32/5434_2.png) [@ProgRocker](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/ProgRocker)\ **Post date:** [November 24, 2014, 9:13am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/snowpocalypse-14-15-now-13-deaths/271107/672 "2014-11-24T09:13:10Z")
Yeah twitter made it sound like they were “fudging some numbers” to get the FEMA money. Which of course would never happen in politics. Also…that lady is ready to pack it in after 13 hours? Jesus…Until you’re drinking your own piss and eating the padding in the seats, why give up so easy. It’s not like she’s a frail 85 year old lady. She’s not even 50. ---
**Author:** ![JayS](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/jays/32/15375_2.png) [@JayS](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/JayS)\ **Post date:** [November 24, 2014, 9:49am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/snowpocalypse-14-15-now-13-deaths/271107/673 "2014-11-24T09:49:37Z")
My biggest problem with her is where is was… William and Transit, one of the busiest intersections in Lancaster. She even said she heard the plow go by, meaning the streets were easily walkable. ---
**Author:** ![boxxa](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/boxxa/32/5045_2.png) [@boxxa](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/boxxa)\ **Post date:** [November 24, 2014, 9:51am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/snowpocalypse-14-15-now-13-deaths/271107/674 "2014-11-24T09:51:16Z")
> [@BOBBYGRV](#): > > I thought him and Cuomo were doing great too until they started blasting the NWS and the people on the Thruway. Specifically Michael Wooten from WGRZ was blasting them at the press conference about why the Thruway was open. They then started blaming the NWS and the people for being on the Thruway. YOUR TOLL COLLECTORS GAVE THEM TICKETS TO GET ON THERE!!! > > After a while, the press conferences just turned into a back-patting fest between Cuomo, Poloncarz and Mayor Brown. It’s obvious to me that these guys are looking out for one another, but I already knew that from the elections… Remember, any organization with “Authority” isn’t tied to the government. The thruway authority is a private corporation so they want money. ---
**Author:** ![deebo](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/deebo/32/5218_2.png) [@deebo](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/deebo)\ **Post date:** [November 24, 2014, 11:05am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/snowpocalypse-14-15-now-13-deaths/271107/675 "2014-11-24T11:05:52Z")
Sump pump failed at my house. Told them to check it 4 days ago to make sure it would turn on. Sure enough it didn’t. And there was no water at 730am, tho I didn’t go over to the actual sump pump area. Went to my house at 1130 and there was water up past my boots in the basement. The one that was in there was shitty and old as fuck. Home Depot had a massive pallet of all sorts of sump pumps right when you walked in the front door lol. Picked up a 1/3hp 4000gal/hr everbilt one which is prob a POS but at least there’s no more other water. Grabbed one of those submersible pumps as well for backup. Now I’m back at work and smell like shit. :tup: ---
**Author:** ![boardjnky4](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/96bed5/32.png) [@boardjnky4](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/boardjnky4)\ **Post date:** [November 24, 2014, 11:20am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/snowpocalypse-14-15-now-13-deaths/271107/676 "2014-11-24T11:20:01Z")
My wife is now selling some pretty darn cute x-mas cards inspired by the storm [https://www.etsy.com/listing/212571796/buffalove-let-it-snowand-snow-christmas?utm\_source=OpenGraph&utm\_medium=PageTools&utm\_campaign=Share](https://www.etsy.com/listing/212571796/buffalove-let-it-snowand-snow-christmas?utm_source=OpenGraph&utm_medium=PageTools&utm_campaign=Share) ![https://img0.etsystatic.com/046/1/8292556/il_570xN.687878146_lt7q.jpg](https://img0.etsystatic.com/046/1/8292556/il_570xN.687878146_lt7q.jpg) ![https://img0.etsystatic.com/052/0/8292556/il_570xN.687878574_3h0a.jpg](https://img0.etsystatic.com/052/0/8292556/il_570xN.687878574_3h0a.jpg) ---
**Author:** ![ProgRocker](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/progrocker/32/5434_2.png) [@ProgRocker](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/ProgRocker)\ **Post date:** [November 24, 2014, 11:30am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/snowpocalypse-14-15-now-13-deaths/271107/677 "2014-11-24T11:30:16Z")
^Ok those are pretty cool. ---
**Author:** ![XwalkerX](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/xwalkerx/32/7598_2.png) [@XwalkerX](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/XwalkerX)\ **Post date:** [November 24, 2014, 11:38am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/snowpocalypse-14-15-now-13-deaths/271107/678 "2014-11-24T11:38:43Z")
am I the only one who read that card from top to bottom? ---
**Author:** ![ProgRocker](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/progrocker/32/5434_2.png) [@ProgRocker](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/ProgRocker)\ **Post date:** [November 24, 2014, 11:41am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/snowpocalypse-14-15-now-13-deaths/271107/679 "2014-11-24T11:41:29Z")
I think it was just the way it’s positioned. This might be a better one ![https://img0.etsystatic.com/056/0/8292556/il_570xN.687878262_exq1.jpg](https://img0.etsystatic.com/056/0/8292556/il_570xN.687878262_exq1.jpg) ---
**Author:** ![theblue](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/theblue/32/5074_2.png) [@theblue](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/theblue)\ **Post date:** [November 24, 2014, 11:53am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/snowpocalypse-14-15-now-13-deaths/271107/680 "2014-11-24T11:53:47Z")
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