# So how about them wacky North Koreans... **URL:** \ **Category:** NYSpeed Off Topic\ **Created:** [March 8, 2013, 7:05am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/so-how-about-them-wacky-north-koreans/229170 "2013-03-08T07:05:12Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 5
**Author:** ![BOBBYGRV](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/ed8c4c/32.png) [@BOBBYGRV](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/BOBBYGRV)\ **Post date:** [March 21, 2013, 6:23am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/so-how-about-them-wacky-north-koreans/229170/81 "2013-03-21T06:23:51Z")
> [@JayS](#): > > ^ Invade NY first to get a foothold. 🙂 > > So what do you guys think… what is NK that hacked SK? Did China help, since we know China has a pretty robust military hacking department? The IP address came from China, but that really doesn’t mean much. They didn’t hack the government or banks, so it could have just been a jab through China at SK. Does anyone really think that NK is more capable than we think? ---
**Author:** ![Event](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/event/32/5443_2.png) [@Event](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Event)\ **Post date:** [March 21, 2013, 1:56pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/so-how-about-them-wacky-north-koreans/229170/82 "2013-03-21T13:56:02Z")
> [@TORQDSS](#): > > I do believe any invader on the US mainland would be in for the fight of all fights and would not survive very long. Just imagine every armed citizen and the military hitting them nonstop day and night. You don’t need to conquer every part of a country to win a war, just the politlcal and financial centers, in this case NYC and DC. Maybe Chicago and Los Angeles too for good measure. Not saying they’d be able to do even that, just the idea that to defeat America they’d need to conquer every area and every citizen is a flawed concept. ---
**Author:** ![LZ1](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/7ab992/32.png) [@LZ1](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/LZ1)\ **Post date:** [March 21, 2013, 6:10pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/so-how-about-them-wacky-north-koreans/229170/83 "2013-03-21T18:10:11Z")
cyber war!! > **[Hacking attack on South Korea traced to Chinese address, officials say - CNN](https://www.cnn.com/2013/03/21/world/asia/south-korea-computer-outage/index.html)** > > The cyber attack on South Korean banks and broadcasters Wednesday originated from an IP address in China, South Korea's Communications Committee said. News coverage like this keeps putting money in my pockets lol ---
**Author:** ![JayS](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/jays/32/15375_2.png) [@JayS](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/JayS)\ **Post date:** [March 21, 2013, 6:11pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/so-how-about-them-wacky-north-koreans/229170/84 "2013-03-21T18:11:06Z")
NYC, DC, LA and Chicago? They can fucking have all 4. Lol ---
**Author:** ![LZ1](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/7ab992/32.png) [@LZ1](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/LZ1)\ **Post date:** [March 21, 2013, 6:11pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/so-how-about-them-wacky-north-koreans/229170/85 "2013-03-21T18:11:20Z")
> [@Event](#): > > You don’t need to conquer every part of a country to win a war, just the politlcal and financial centers, in this case NYC and DC. Maybe Chicago and Los Angeles too for good measure. > > Not saying they’d be able to do even that, just the idea that to defeat America they’d need to conquer every area and every citizen is a flawed concept. So you want to capture major cities with no resources and nobody who will fight back? with the exception of DC? ---
**Author:** ![Event](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/event/32/5443_2.png) [@Event](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Event)\ **Post date:** [March 21, 2013, 6:36pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/so-how-about-them-wacky-north-koreans/229170/86 "2013-03-21T18:36:19Z")
> [@LZ](#): > > So you want to capture major cities with no resources and nobody who will fight back? > > with the exception of DC? If they capture DC I doubt it matters what the rest of the country thinks. Everyone on this forum seems to have a very particular point of view about politicians, does anyone think that if the people in DC had rifles pointed in their faces that they wouldn’t surrender instantly? Taking the financial center would throw many major companies into complete turmoil, among those affected would be oil companies and grocery stores. Even if they were able to keep their shit together and keep cities supplied that get most of their food/gas shipped in, the aggressor in the attack would be stupid to actually invade the cities. With even a mediocre military they could block off the major highways and have planes patrolling for supply trucks to blow up. Once the grocery store shelves go empty and there’s no new sources of food coming in, people start to panic and it’s game over. Modern warfare wouldn’t be like call of duty where there are gun battles going on in suburban streets, unless the aggressor has no tactical knowledge whatsoever. Again, that having been said there’s no way in hell NK would be able to do any of that without getting bitch slapped off the face of the planet. …Also, reading back on this I’m realizing I have way too much time to think about this stuff. I need a hobby or something lol. ---
**Author:** ![LZ1](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/7ab992/32.png) [@LZ1](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/LZ1)\ **Post date:** [March 21, 2013, 6:43pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/so-how-about-them-wacky-north-koreans/229170/87 "2013-03-21T18:43:13Z")
Post 9/11 from a control perceptive DC means nothing every DoD and important organization has a continuity of operations plan. All of those major cities you mentioned also have little to do with the day to day operations of food production. You would be better served controlling power and mass communication. ---
**Author:** ![Event](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/event/32/5443_2.png) [@Event](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Event)\ **Post date:** [March 21, 2013, 6:49pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/so-how-about-them-wacky-north-koreans/229170/88 "2013-03-21T18:49:08Z")
> [@LZ](#): > > Post 9/11 from a control perceptive DC means nothing every DoD and important organization has a continuity of operations plan. Good point. > [@LZ](#): > > All of those major cities you mentioned also have little to do with the day to day operations of food production. Very true, but taking the financial center throws the economy into turmoil. This could cause any number of affects on the value of money which is used to pay the people who produce it. > [@LZ](#): > > You would be better served controlling power and mass communication. Also a good point. My main point with the above post is that the idea that a war would ever get to the point that we’d have civilians in the streets fighting off invaders is a bit far-fetched. It’s a nice daydream, but that’s about all it is. ---
**Author:** ![Carnut](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/carnut/32/7590_2.png) [@Carnut](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Carnut)\ **Post date:** [March 21, 2013, 8:47pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/so-how-about-them-wacky-north-koreans/229170/89 "2013-03-21T20:47:56Z")
> [@LZ](#): > > Post 9/11 from a control perceptive DC means nothing every DoD and important organization has a continuity of operations plan. > > All of those major cities you mentioned also have little to do with the day to day operations of food production. > > You would be better served controlling power and mass communication. Actually there are many food production plants in and around the direct areas listed. ---
**Author:** ![Motocrossx23](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/motocrossx23/32/5120_2.png) [@Motocrossx23](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Motocrossx23)\ **Post date:** [March 21, 2013, 8:50pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/so-how-about-them-wacky-north-koreans/229170/90 "2013-03-21T20:50:04Z")
Can the NK’s try attacking now so we can just get rid of that part of the map for a while? ---
**Author:** ![Fry](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/fry/32/7284_2.png) [@Fry](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Fry)\ **Post date:** [March 22, 2013, 5:52am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/so-how-about-them-wacky-north-koreans/229170/91 "2013-03-22T05:52:17Z")
A war with NK would suck. We won’t declare war because we all know war is bad so we don’t do that anymore. We would just engage in armed conflict. But then we wouldn’t just indiscriminantly bomb the whole country. There would be civilian casualties. I mean, it’s not like we’re at war. Of course, after we’ve killed their leader (he won’t surrender) and destroyed enough of the army to scare the rest of the leadership into surrendering (that is how you win a war afterall, with fear. You’ve read WWZ right?) then we’ll have to help them rebuild. We can’t just let them to fend for themselves or we’ll just wind up with an Asian Bin Laden in 10 years. Plus they have to adopt our style of democracy to ensure that everyone (in the majority) has equal rights because that’s how the world should be and anyone who disagrees is wrong. Oh, and they must have some sort of natural resource. No? Oh. Well, forget it. I guess they’re not that big of a threat. As for an invasion and defeat of America. Hah. Haha. Hahahahahahahahaha. ![http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/timeline/9b6b4ac6234a38d7f61757290055617d.png](http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/timeline/9b6b4ac6234a38d7f61757290055617d.png) Top 5 military spending countries. Remember that whole “destroy enough of the army to scare the leadership into surrendering” thing? Not happening in our lifetimes. ---
**Author:** ![JayS](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/jays/32/15375_2.png) [@JayS](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/JayS)\ **Post date:** [March 22, 2013, 6:03am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/so-how-about-them-wacky-north-koreans/229170/92 "2013-03-22T06:03:01Z")
^ But but but… RED DAWN! But yeah, an actual ground attack with the goal of taking over the US with an occupied force is just laughable. The idea of a couple of nukes getting tossed at DC, NYC and LA by a mentally unstable leader with serious dad issues and a Napoleon complex… not so laughable. ---
**Author:** ![deebo](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/deebo/32/5218_2.png) [@deebo](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/deebo)\ **Post date:** [March 22, 2013, 6:51am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/so-how-about-them-wacky-north-koreans/229170/93 "2013-03-22T06:51:56Z")
they will probably let nk attack once they disarm everyone so that the government can be the heroes and prove civilians don’t need guns. Or something like that Sent from my LG-E739 using Tapatalk 2 ---
**Author:** ![LZ1](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/7ab992/32.png) [@LZ1](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/LZ1)\ **Post date:** [March 22, 2013, 7:01am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/so-how-about-them-wacky-north-koreans/229170/94 "2013-03-22T07:01:34Z")
> [@JayS](#): > > ^ But but but… RED DAWN! > > But yeah, an actual ground attack with the goal of taking over the US with an occupied force is just laughable. > > The idea of a couple of nukes getting tossed at DC, NYC and LA by a mentally unstable leader with serious dad issues and a Napoleon complex… not so laughable. I didn’t think they had anything that could hit east coast anyways. ---
**Author:** ![ProgRocker](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/progrocker/32/5434_2.png) [@ProgRocker](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/ProgRocker)\ **Post date:** [March 22, 2013, 7:05am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/so-how-about-them-wacky-north-koreans/229170/95 "2013-03-22T07:05:38Z")
> [@LZ](#): > > I didn’t think they had anything that could hit east coast anyways. I’m sure they have the capabilities to do it. Whether or not it explodes on launch or falls apart is another story. ---
**Author:** ![JayS](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/jays/32/15375_2.png) [@JayS](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/JayS)\ **Post date:** [March 22, 2013, 7:15am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/so-how-about-them-wacky-north-koreans/229170/96 "2013-03-22T07:15:19Z")
> [@LZ](#): > > I didn’t think they had anything that could hit east coast anyways. They have nukes, and have managed to use a rocket to put a satellite into orbit. It’s not an ICBM yet but it’s a good start. They’d still need the tech to shrink the nuclear payload down, build a re-entry shield and finalize the tracking for re-entry. ---
**Author:** ![LZ1](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/7ab992/32.png) [@LZ1](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/LZ1)\ **Post date:** [March 22, 2013, 7:18am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/so-how-about-them-wacky-north-koreans/229170/97 "2013-03-22T07:18:57Z")
> [@ProgRocker](#): > > I’m sure they have the capabilities to do it. Whether or not it explodes on launch or falls apart is another story. ![http://news.bbcimg.co.uk/media/images/59119000/jpg/_59119706_north_korea_ranges_2.jpg](https://canada1.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/uploads/speedlife/original/3X/8/7/875567e688e110b1fb2d7cde06cd2f85758d6a4c.jpeg) ---------- Post added at 10:16 AM ---------- Previous post was at 10:16 AM ---------- > [@JayS](#): > > They have nukes, and have managed to use a rocket to put a satellite into orbit. It’s not an ICBM yet but it’s a good start. They’d still need the tech to shrink the nuclear payload down, build a re-entry shield and finalize the tracking for re-entry. Right but this isn’t like HEY WE CAN TAKE 10MIN AND BUILD THIS ---------- Post added at 10:18 AM ---------- Previous post was at 10:16 AM ---------- I was more impressed by NK attacking SK over the internetz ---
**Author:** ![JayS](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/jays/32/15375_2.png) [@JayS](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/JayS)\ **Post date:** [March 22, 2013, 7:22am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/so-how-about-them-wacky-north-koreans/229170/98 "2013-03-22T07:22:57Z")
All the security experts thought they were a joke and going nowhere, then NK popped that satellite into orbit. Not sure how much I trust those same experts when they say, “oh, they’re a long ways off from being able to reach the east coast”. If it goes anything like the satellite launch the “experts” will know NK has the capability when there are ICBM’s inbound and 35 minutes from landing in DC. ---
**Author:** ![somedude](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ecd19e/32.png) [@somedude](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/somedude)\ **Post date:** [March 22, 2013, 7:26am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/so-how-about-them-wacky-north-koreans/229170/99 "2013-03-22T07:26:42Z")
I wonder what type of defense is in place to protect against such a threat. ---
**Author:** ![LZ1](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/7ab992/32.png) [@LZ1](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/LZ1)\ **Post date:** [March 22, 2013, 7:29am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/so-how-about-them-wacky-north-koreans/229170/100 "2013-03-22T07:29:26Z")
> [@somedude](#): > > I wonder what type of defense is in place to protect against such a threat. [![](https://canada1.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/uploads/speedlife/original/3X/3/3/33e85f647df459ffb2ea9b7d040ad15932174eaf.jpeg "War Games "Impact!" 1983 Directed by John Badham") ](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HqogvH-x4k4) [Previous page](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/so-how-about-them-wacky-north-koreans/229170.md?page=4) [Next page](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/so-how-about-them-wacky-north-koreans/229170.md?page=6)