# So is HSBC leaving Buffalo, or will Buffalo government finally not eff something up? **URL:** \ **Category:** PolitiSUCK\ **Created:** [August 4, 2010, 1:47pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/so-is-hsbc-leaving-buffalo-or-will-buffalo-government-finally-not-eff-something-up/158749 "2010-08-04T13:47:12Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 2
**Author:** ![JayS](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/jays/32/15375_2.png) [@JayS](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/JayS)\ **Post date:** [August 5, 2010, 10:28am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/so-is-hsbc-leaving-buffalo-or-will-buffalo-government-finally-not-eff-something-up/158749/21 "2010-08-05T10:28:45Z")
Great update on wgrz. “Great” in that is shows the absolute unvarnished arrogance of the common council. [http://www.wgrz.com/news/local/story.aspx?storyid=81736&catid=37](http://www.wgrz.com/news/local/story.aspx?storyid=81736&catid=37) > Right now things are on hold, according to Common Councilman Fraznczyk. “They have no authority to call us back in 24 hours because I set the time and the date of the Special Council. The Mayor does not have the authority. I have the authority to set when the Council meeting will be held. He has no right to call the meeting. I have the right to call the date. Right now it’s going to be our next scheduled Council meeting. That’s the day after Labor Day.” He really needed to end that “I have the authority” rant with an Eric Cartman like, “RESPECT MY AUTHORITA!” Looks like HSBC in Amherst is looking more and more likely. ---
**Author:** ![Joe](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/joe/32/7219_2.png) [@Joe](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Joe)\ **Post date:** [August 5, 2010, 10:53am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/so-is-hsbc-leaving-buffalo-or-will-buffalo-government-finally-not-eff-something-up/158749/22 "2010-08-05T10:53:14Z")
> [@LZ](#): > > :tdown: > > Downtown Buffalo is epic fail x2. From 5:01 PM on I have no interest in associating with any of the surrounding crowd. > [@JayS](#): > > Great update on wgrz. “Great” in that is shows the absolute unvarnished arrogance of the common council. > > [404 Not Found | wgrz.com](http://www.wgrz.com/news/local/story.aspx?storyid=81736&catid=37) > > He really needed to end that “I have the authority” rant with an Eric Cartman like, “RESPECT MY AUTHORITA!” > > Looks like HSBC in Amherst is looking more and more likely. Free parking here I come 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![95zzz28](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/9/e495f1/32.png) [@95zzz28](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/95zzz28)\ **Post date:** [August 5, 2010, 11:23am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/so-is-hsbc-leaving-buffalo-or-will-buffalo-government-finally-not-eff-something-up/158749/23 "2010-08-05T11:23:28Z")
Crosspoint is much better than the Citi! ---
**Author:** ![LZ1](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/7ab992/32.png) [@LZ1](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/LZ1)\ **Post date:** [August 5, 2010, 1:47pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/so-is-hsbc-leaving-buffalo-or-will-buffalo-government-finally-not-eff-something-up/158749/24 "2010-08-05T13:47:54Z")
> [@Joe](#): > > x2. From 5:01 PM on I have no interest in associating with any of the surrounding crowd. I have been working at 350 main for two weeks now…and everyday I hate the city more and more. ---
**Author:** ![Joe](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/joe/32/7219_2.png) [@Joe](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Joe)\ **Post date:** [August 5, 2010, 2:15pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/so-is-hsbc-leaving-buffalo-or-will-buffalo-government-finally-not-eff-something-up/158749/25 "2010-08-05T14:15:53Z")
Lunch tomorrow? ---
**Author:** ![LZ1](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/7ab992/32.png) [@LZ1](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/LZ1)\ **Post date:** [August 5, 2010, 2:27pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/so-is-hsbc-leaving-buffalo-or-will-buffalo-government-finally-not-eff-something-up/158749/26 "2010-08-05T14:27:42Z")
Should be doable…I will txt or call you… I got a meeting at Verizon early but that is right around the corner. ---
**Author:** ![ultradriver10000](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/ultradriver10000/32/7397_2.png) [@ultradriver10000](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/ultradriver10000)\ **Post date:** [August 5, 2010, 2:37pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/so-is-hsbc-leaving-buffalo-or-will-buffalo-government-finally-not-eff-something-up/158749/27 "2010-08-05T14:37:01Z")
I feel like I could enjoy the city of Buffalo more if it was destroyed and was just an open flied next to the lake. ---
**Author:** ![dreid](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/dreid/32/7388_2.png) [@dreid](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/dreid)\ **Post date:** [August 5, 2010, 4:11pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/so-is-hsbc-leaving-buffalo-or-will-buffalo-government-finally-not-eff-something-up/158749/28 "2010-08-05T16:11:52Z")
The wife’s(BOA employee) commute to Crosspoint is gonna suck even more if 4000 more ppl are headed that way lol. ---
**Author:** ![Blue\_Eyed\_Devil](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/blue_eyed_devil/32/7292_2.png) [@Blue\_Eyed\_Devil](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Blue_Eyed_Devil)\ **Post date:** [August 6, 2010, 4:34am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/so-is-hsbc-leaving-buffalo-or-will-buffalo-government-finally-not-eff-something-up/158749/29 "2010-08-06T04:34:32Z")
Great so now we a have bank grabbing some of the waterfront property. I am not sure which would be a bigger draw of people/tourists, a closed Bass Pro or a bank. lol ---
**Author:** ![MaximaSE98](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/maximase98/32/7600_2.png) [@MaximaSE98](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/MaximaSE98)\ **Post date:** [August 6, 2010, 4:46am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/so-is-hsbc-leaving-buffalo-or-will-buffalo-government-finally-not-eff-something-up/158749/30 "2010-08-06T04:46:04Z")
i saw that quickly on the news this morning…the Erie Canal Development or whatever its called actually bought the land and is going to to turn around and sell it to HSBC…is that the deal now? ---
**Author:** ![Joe](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/joe/32/7219_2.png) [@Joe](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Joe)\ **Post date:** [August 6, 2010, 5:22am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/so-is-hsbc-leaving-buffalo-or-will-buffalo-government-finally-not-eff-something-up/158749/31 "2010-08-06T05:22:43Z")
If we want it… ---
**Author:** ![JayS](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/jays/32/15375_2.png) [@JayS](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/JayS)\ **Post date:** [August 6, 2010, 5:31am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/so-is-hsbc-leaving-buffalo-or-will-buffalo-government-finally-not-eff-something-up/158749/32 "2010-08-06T05:31:34Z")
> [@MaximaSE98](#): > > i saw that quickly on the news this morning…the Erie Canal Development or whatever its called actually bought the land and is going to to turn around and sell it to HSBC…is that the deal now? Sort of. They agreed to a deal stating that if HSBC formally wants the property the common council will agree to sell it to the ECHDC. > Under the agreement, the deed to the Webster Block would not be transferred to the Erie Canal Harbor Development Corp. until HSBC informs the city that it has selected the site for development. The city would retain ownership of the property if the bank does not build on the land. Based on Buffalo’s history of obstructionism with the waterfront (“Hi Senecas, we’re going to sue to force you to build here instead of Cheektowaga, only to turn around and sue to prevent the casino”) I’m not sure if this will be enough to convince HSBC to pursue the development. Yeah, right now the common council says they’ll sell the land but nothing prevents them from dragging their feet and holding it hostage to some stupid community benefits agreement should HSBC try to move forward. What they should have done was signed over the 2 acres last night which would have taken them out of the hands of corrupt Buffalo politicians. ---
**Author:** ![Blue\_Eyed\_Devil](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/blue_eyed_devil/32/7292_2.png) [@Blue\_Eyed\_Devil](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Blue_Eyed_Devil)\ **Post date:** [August 6, 2010, 5:51am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/so-is-hsbc-leaving-buffalo-or-will-buffalo-government-finally-not-eff-something-up/158749/33 "2010-08-06T05:51:14Z")
> [@MaximaSE98](#): > > i saw that quickly on the news this morning…the Erie Canal Development or whatever its called actually bought the land and is going to to turn around and sell it to HSBC…is that the deal now? Yeah, this way Larry Quinn can line his pockets as well as Byron Brown. ---
**Author:** ![OfficerK](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/4da419/32.png) [@OfficerK](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/OfficerK)\ **Post date:** [August 6, 2010, 5:51am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/so-is-hsbc-leaving-buffalo-or-will-buffalo-government-finally-not-eff-something-up/158749/34 "2010-08-06T05:51:55Z")
> [@Joe](#): > > If we want it… Who’s this we? You a majority owner of HSBC now! woot woot ---
**Author:** ![Joe](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/joe/32/7219_2.png) [@Joe](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Joe)\ **Post date:** [August 6, 2010, 6:13am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/so-is-hsbc-leaving-buffalo-or-will-buffalo-government-finally-not-eff-something-up/158749/35 "2010-08-06T06:13:53Z")
> [@OfficerK](#): > > Who’s this we? You a majority owner of HSBC now! woot woot Hell yeah, at the moment I own 2310 shares. Out of 3.5 billion ☹ ---
**Author:** ![ubengineering](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/ubengineering/32/5171_2.png) [@ubengineering](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/ubengineering)\ **Post date:** [August 6, 2010, 6:24am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/so-is-hsbc-leaving-buffalo-or-will-buffalo-government-finally-not-eff-something-up/158749/36 "2010-08-06T06:24:53Z")
hey thats still a good chunk of change ---
**Author:** ![OfficerK](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/4da419/32.png) [@OfficerK](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/OfficerK)\ **Post date:** [August 6, 2010, 6:31am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/so-is-hsbc-leaving-buffalo-or-will-buffalo-government-finally-not-eff-something-up/158749/37 "2010-08-06T06:31:32Z")
> [@Joe](#): > > Hell yeah, at the moment I own 2310 shares. > > Out of 3.5 billion ☹ So you have like ~$125,000 in HSBC shares? you need a more baller house ---
**Author:** ![Joe](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/joe/32/7219_2.png) [@Joe](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Joe)\ **Post date:** [August 6, 2010, 6:40am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/so-is-hsbc-leaving-buffalo-or-will-buffalo-government-finally-not-eff-something-up/158749/38 "2010-08-06T06:40:35Z")
No, the american shares are actually 5 regular shares, I have the regular ones traded on the London exchange. Divide that by 5. ---
**Author:** ![OfficerK](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/4da419/32.png) [@OfficerK](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/OfficerK)\ **Post date:** [August 6, 2010, 6:42am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/so-is-hsbc-leaving-buffalo-or-will-buffalo-government-finally-not-eff-something-up/158749/39 "2010-08-06T06:42:03Z")
> [@Joe](#): > > No, the american shares are actually 5 regular shares, I have the regular ones traded on the London exchange. Divide that by 5. that makes me sad 😢 I wanted hookers and blow ---
**Author:** ![Joe](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/joe/32/7219_2.png) [@Joe](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Joe)\ **Post date:** [August 6, 2010, 6:45am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/so-is-hsbc-leaving-buffalo-or-will-buffalo-government-finally-not-eff-something-up/158749/40 "2010-08-06T06:45:42Z")
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