# So i've been thinking about going to the dark side.. **URL:** \ **Category:** Shift518 Automotive\ **Created:** [May 30, 2008, 12:06am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/so-ive-been-thinking-about-going-to-the-dark-side/237091 "2008-05-30T00:06:21Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 7
**Author:** ![GranMassaX](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/granmassax/32/6299_2.png) [@GranMassaX](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/GranMassaX)\ **Post date:** [May 30, 2008, 11:17am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/so-ive-been-thinking-about-going-to-the-dark-side/237091/121 "2008-05-30T11:17:00Z")
> [@Swifty](#): > > so anyways, this is boring. someone bash me for wanting a 848 again. I don’t think they make body kits for the 848, you’ll hate it after a week. ;D ---
**Author:** ![Mike3](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/mike3/32/6350_2.png) [@Mike3](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Mike3)\ **Post date:** [May 30, 2008, 11:17am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/so-ive-been-thinking-about-going-to-the-dark-side/237091/122 "2008-05-30T11:17:11Z")
I love this thread. ---
**Author:** ![n\_cole](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/n_cole/32/6382_2.png) [@n\_cole](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/n_cole)\ **Post date:** [May 30, 2008, 11:18am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/so-ive-been-thinking-about-going-to-the-dark-side/237091/123 "2008-05-30T11:18:35Z")
> [@GranMassaX](#): > > I don’t think they make body kits for the 848, you’ll hate it after a week. ;D :lol ---
**Author:** ![Oleg](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/oleg/32/6276_2.png) [@Oleg](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Oleg)\ **Post date:** [May 30, 2008, 11:18am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/so-ive-been-thinking-about-going-to-the-dark-side/237091/124 "2008-05-30T11:18:42Z")
> [@RSXTC](#): > > Alright so I IMed the ex whose _first bike was a brand new R1_. So as a person in the same boat as you, this is his opinion… > > "tell him to go for it. Here’s my honest opinion. At the time of my purchase, the R1 was the #1 fastest production litre bike. I have more miles on now than people have been riding for 6 years. Me going down was a fluke, not a lack of responsibility. Once you’re higher than 600, ANY bike can lay you on your ass, and in fact, people are more opt to think they are “safer” on a 600 and have a false sense of security when riding one and end up laying on their ass in no time. > > the only difference between a litre bike and a 600 is top speed, you crank the throttle on an r6 or r1 and you’re pointing at the sky either way > > after a 600, power doesnt matter. You dont crash because of power, you’ll crash for doing something stupid- doing wheelies or taking blind corners with gravel on the road. I can’t think of a single incident where power was the result of a crash. > > besides, ducati’s are teh seks. F-yeah I’d get one" hmm, I wonder if he’d say the same thing about a new rider getting a busa. something tells me that he would… ---
**Author:** ![Mike3](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/mike3/32/6350_2.png) [@Mike3](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Mike3)\ **Post date:** [May 30, 2008, 11:20am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/so-ive-been-thinking-about-going-to-the-dark-side/237091/125 "2008-05-30T11:20:55Z")
[http://albany.craigslist.org/mcy/701173752.html](http://albany.craigslist.org/mcy/701173752.html) Perfect starter bike :mwahaha. ---
**Author:** ![n\_cole](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/n_cole/32/6382_2.png) [@n\_cole](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/n_cole)\ **Post date:** [May 30, 2008, 11:22am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/so-ive-been-thinking-about-going-to-the-dark-side/237091/126 "2008-05-30T11:22:17Z")
:wow Training wheels! ---
**Author:** ![Swifty](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ecae2f/32.png) [@Swifty](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Swifty)\ **Post date:** [May 30, 2008, 11:22am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/so-ive-been-thinking-about-going-to-the-dark-side/237091/127 "2008-05-30T11:22:48Z")
> [@GranMassaX](#): > > I don’t think they make body kits for the 848, you’ll hate it after a week. ;D touche. > [@oleg](#): > > hmm, I wonder if he’d say the same thing about a new rider getting a busa. > something tells me that he would… I actually think he wouldnt… the ducati fits in with the 600’s in weight class/cornering, and the Litre bike in power/performance… the busa is a obvious beast… very heavy, and very powerful, not so good at cornering. > [@RSXTC](#): > > Alright so I IMed the ex whose _first bike was a brand new R1_. So as a person in the same boat as you, this is his opinion… > > "tell him to go for it. Here’s my honest opinion. At the time of my purchase, the R1 was the #1 fastest production litre bike. I have more miles on now than people have been riding for 6 years. Me going down was a fluke, not a lack of responsibility. Once you’re higher than 600, ANY bike can lay you on your ass, and in fact, people are more opt to think they are “safer” on a 600 and have a false sense of security when riding one and end up laying on their ass in no time. > > the only difference between a litre bike and a 600 is top speed, you crank the throttle on an r6 or r1 and you’re pointing at the sky either way > > after a 600, power doesnt matter. You dont crash because of power, you’ll crash for doing something stupid- doing wheelies or taking blind corners with gravel on the road. I can’t think of a single incident where power was the result of a crash. > > besides, ducati’s are teh seks. F-yeah I’d get one" i like your ex. > [@Mike](#): > > [http://albany.craigslist.org/mcy/701173752.html](http://albany.craigslist.org/mcy/701173752.html) > > Perfect starter bike :mwahaha. die in a fire. ---
**Author:** ![n\_cole](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/n_cole/32/6382_2.png) [@n\_cole](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/n_cole)\ **Post date:** [May 30, 2008, 11:23am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/so-ive-been-thinking-about-going-to-the-dark-side/237091/128 "2008-05-30T11:23:50Z")
Before Swifty learns to ride a bike, we gotta teach him some better come backs. :tong ---
**Author:** ![Mk4\_30R\_Ban](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/mk4_30r_ban/32/6347_2.png) [@Mk4\_30R\_Ban](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Mk4_30R_Ban)\ **Post date:** [May 30, 2008, 11:24am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/so-ive-been-thinking-about-going-to-the-dark-side/237091/129 "2008-05-30T11:24:15Z")
the difference between a 600 and a 1000 is top speed?? ha. right, a friends ZX10R will stand up in 3rd stock, where most 600s may hover the front tire a few inches off the ground in 2nd stock… the average 1/4mile time for a 600 is in the lower 11s @ 120-125 with the common rider where a 1000 with go in the 10s with your average comfortable rider at 135-140+… big difference with ~25more hp with almost the same weight. i guess its up to you, im not a stunter so im not gonna try hanging wheelies as i know i cant ---
**Author:** ![Swifty](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ecae2f/32.png) [@Swifty](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Swifty)\ **Post date:** [May 30, 2008, 11:24am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/so-ive-been-thinking-about-going-to-the-dark-side/237091/130 "2008-05-30T11:24:33Z")
> [@n!cole](#): > > Before Swifty learns to ride a bike, we gotta teach him some better come backs. :tong die in a fire is good, i duno what your talking about. ---
**Author:** ![n\_cole](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/n_cole/32/6382_2.png) [@n\_cole](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/n_cole)\ **Post date:** [May 30, 2008, 11:25am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/so-ive-been-thinking-about-going-to-the-dark-side/237091/131 "2008-05-30T11:25:52Z")
> [@Swifty](#): > > die in a fire is good, i duno what your talking about. In a quiz for “most overused online phrase” your answer would definately be “die in a fire”. ---
**Author:** ![Swifty](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ecae2f/32.png) [@Swifty](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Swifty)\ **Post date:** [May 30, 2008, 11:27am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/so-ive-been-thinking-about-going-to-the-dark-side/237091/132 "2008-05-30T11:27:04Z")
> [@Mk4 30R](#): > > the difference between a 600 and a 100 is top speed?? ha. right, a friends ZX10R will stand up in 3rd stock, where most 600s may hover the front tire a few inches off the ground in 2nd stock… the average 1/4mile time for a 600 is in the lower 11s @ 120-125 with the common rider where a 1000 with go in the 10s with your average comfortable rider at 135-140+… big difference with ~25more hp with almost the same weight. i guess its up to you, im not a stunter so im not gonna try hanging wheelies as i know i cant i have no idea where you got those numbers. At the valley, i would say the average rider was hitting high 11’s if not low 12’s on 600’s at 112-118, and 1000’s were hitting low 11’s to high 10’s at 120-125. The white gsxr1000 has a swing arm, sprocket, and a 50shot… and was running 9.9’s @ 145, and Greg smith on his 5" swing arm, piped/tuned busa cutting 1.63 60’ running 10.02 @ 139. And he is well known, and a very very very good rider. ---
**Author:** ![RSXTC](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/d2c977/32.png) [@RSXTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/RSXTC)\ **Post date:** [May 30, 2008, 11:27am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/so-ive-been-thinking-about-going-to-the-dark-side/237091/133 "2008-05-30T11:27:58Z")
> [@oleg](#): > > hmm, I wonder if he’d say the same thing about a new rider getting a busa. > something tells me that he would… _shrug_ Take it with a grain of salt. I do not share his opinion, just sharing the thoughts of someone who has successfully made the move that Swifty might. > [@Swifty](#): > > i like your ex. LOL I figured you would. ---
**Author:** ![n\_cole](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/n_cole/32/6382_2.png) [@n\_cole](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/n_cole)\ **Post date:** [May 30, 2008, 11:28am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/so-ive-been-thinking-about-going-to-the-dark-side/237091/134 "2008-05-30T11:28:44Z")
Of course he likes him. :gay ---
**Author:** ![Swifty](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ecae2f/32.png) [@Swifty](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Swifty)\ **Post date:** [May 30, 2008, 11:30am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/so-ive-been-thinking-about-going-to-the-dark-side/237091/135 "2008-05-30T11:30:32Z")
> [@n!cole](#): > > Of course he likes him. :gay > [@RSXTC](#): > > LOL I figured you would. quick both of you!!! to the bridge!!! ok now jump. ---
**Author:** ![n\_cole](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/n_cole/32/6382_2.png) [@n\_cole](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/n_cole)\ **Post date:** [May 30, 2008, 11:32am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/so-ive-been-thinking-about-going-to-the-dark-side/237091/136 "2008-05-30T11:32:11Z")
[![http://smiliesftw.com/x/bigwtc.gif](http://smiliesftw.com/x/bigwtc.gif)](http://smiliesftw.com) ---
**Author:** ![RSXTC](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/d2c977/32.png) [@RSXTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/RSXTC)\ **Post date:** [May 30, 2008, 11:33am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/so-ive-been-thinking-about-going-to-the-dark-side/237091/137 "2008-05-30T11:33:07Z")
> [@Mk4 30R](#): > > the difference between a 600 and a 1000 is top speed?? ha. right I think the point he was trying to make is, anything 600 or above is fucking fast. He’s lumping them into beginner bikes VS. bikes for experienced riders. ---
**Author:** ![Mike3](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/mike3/32/6350_2.png) [@Mike3](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Mike3)\ **Post date:** [May 30, 2008, 11:34am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/so-ive-been-thinking-about-going-to-the-dark-side/237091/138 "2008-05-30T11:34:33Z")
> [@Swifty](#): > > i have no idea where you got those numbers. > > At the valley, i would say the average rider was hitting high 11’s if not low 12’s on 600’s at 112-118, and 1000’s were hitting low 11’s to high 10’s at 120-125. The white gsxr1000 has a swing arm, sprocket, and a 50shot… and was running 9.9’s @ 145, and Greg smith on his 5" swing arm, piped/tuned busa cutting 1.63 60’ running 10.02 @ 139. And he is well known, and a very very very good rider. Yea…that is pretty accurate. Not too many people on the 1000’s hit 10’s and when they do the trap is like 128-131ish. ---
**Author:** ![Swifty](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ecae2f/32.png) [@Swifty](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Swifty)\ **Post date:** [May 30, 2008, 11:34am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/so-ive-been-thinking-about-going-to-the-dark-side/237091/139 "2008-05-30T11:34:43Z")
atleast i’ve been that fast before… so the desire to get there on a bike isnt as great. Its not like this bike is going to be the first thing i’ve had that was capable of high speeds. I get scared in my car, so i can only imagine w/ 2 less wheels, less time operating/getting comfortable, and air on both sides of me, i’m pretty sure ill keep it slow for a while. ---
**Author:** ![Mk4\_30R\_Ban](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/mk4_30r_ban/32/6347_2.png) [@Mk4\_30R\_Ban](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Mk4_30R_Ban)\ **Post date:** [May 30, 2008, 11:35am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/so-ive-been-thinking-about-going-to-the-dark-side/237091/140 "2008-05-30T11:35:37Z")
matt went low 11s wednesday night at 120-124 on his 06 gsxr 600 with a slip-on, nothing more. and im aware of what greg smith runs. and my friend has a zx10r with a PC on it and hes going in the 140s with it. [Previous page](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/so-ive-been-thinking-about-going-to-the-dark-side/237091.md?page=6) [Next page](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/so-ive-been-thinking-about-going-to-the-dark-side/237091.md?page=8)