# So, Japan calling US out re: China **URL:** \ **Category:** NYSpeed Off Topic\ **Created:** [November 23, 2005, 6:44am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/so-japan-calling-us-out-re-china/4914 "2005-11-23T06:44:40Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 3
**Author:** ![RuBiCaNT](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/rubicant/32/7622_2.png) [@RuBiCaNT](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/RuBiCaNT)\ **Post date:** [November 23, 2005, 9:13am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/so-japan-calling-us-out-re-china/4914/41 "2005-11-23T09:13:30Z")
> [@AWDrifter](#): > > Does anyone here honestly think that the US would drop troops in China? > > Edit : still :lol: > [@RuBiCaNT](#): > > I am sure this was the same kind of attitude before we went into Vietnam. I am not making parallels to China and Vietnam, only the attitude… . ---
**Author:** ![Blue\_Eyed\_Devil](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/blue_eyed_devil/32/7292_2.png) [@Blue\_Eyed\_Devil](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Blue_Eyed_Devil)\ **Post date:** [November 23, 2005, 9:15am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/so-japan-calling-us-out-re-china/4914/42 "2005-11-23T09:15:02Z")
That wasn’t directed at you. ---
**Author:** ![RuBiCaNT](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/rubicant/32/7622_2.png) [@RuBiCaNT](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/RuBiCaNT)\ **Post date:** [November 23, 2005, 9:15am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/so-japan-calling-us-out-re-china/4914/43 "2005-11-23T09:15:42Z")
> [@AWDrifter](#): > > That wasn’t directed at you. Sorry then… 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![Freek](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/freek/32/7357_2.png) [@Freek](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Freek)\ **Post date:** [November 23, 2005, 9:18am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/so-japan-calling-us-out-re-china/4914/44 "2005-11-23T09:18:49Z")
well the US dosne’t have enough man power to drop troops into china … the military force isn’t what it used to be … the military in general is downsized from what it used to be. they coulden’t fight a ground war … it would be a SOF (special operations forces) war… drop some in take out target(s) recall … do it again … take out chinas needs and the poeple will devour themselves with there over populated need ---
**Author:** ![Zer0DazE](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/zer0daze/32/7624_2.png) [@Zer0DazE](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Zer0DazE)\ **Post date:** [November 23, 2005, 9:28am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/so-japan-calling-us-out-re-china/4914/45 "2005-11-23T09:28:16Z")
mike and mike bring up good points. we could stop them before they got out of their country, and we won a ton of battles in past wars by simply cutting off supplies and starving the troops in to submission. ---
**Author:** ![Lucky\_Cheater](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/eb9ed0/32.png) [@Lucky\_Cheater](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Lucky_Cheater)\ **Post date:** [November 23, 2005, 9:30am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/so-japan-calling-us-out-re-china/4914/46 "2005-11-23T09:30:23Z")
> [@RuBiCaNT](#): > > Regardless of both countries decide to go to war, I think they will agree to not use nuclear weapons. The bombs/missles they have today are leaps and bounds ahead of the antiquaited shit the Fatman (Zer0dazE) and the Little Boy (Zer0dazE’s Penis) brought to the table. It would be an apocalypse like the kind you read in cheesy science fiction novels and what is described in the bible as armageddon. We launch, they launch, game over. The missles could high-five themselves on their way to their enemy’s country. well then, if there is a nuclear holocaust I am going to collect all the mail I can find and deliver it to all the pockets of human civilization I can find! They shall call me “the postman”! Perhaps I will even take on a greater cause, and lead the people to victory over tyranny! :edited for correctness (why did I bother editing this post?) -Cheater- ---
**Author:** ![Deuce](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/deuce/32/7614_2.png) [@Deuce](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Deuce)\ **Post date:** [November 23, 2005, 9:36am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/so-japan-calling-us-out-re-china/4914/47 "2005-11-23T09:36:01Z")
> [@Zer0DazE](#): > > mike and mike bring up good points. we could stop them before they got out of their country, and we won a ton of battles in past wars by simply cutting off supplies and starving the troops in to submission. currently china doesnt have the logistics to invade the US anyways they would even have a hard time supporting an invasion of taiwain right now, but they are working on that… 😕 ---
**Author:** ![AlbinoMonkeyRat](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/bb73d2/32.png) [@AlbinoMonkeyRat](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/AlbinoMonkeyRat)\ **Post date:** [November 23, 2005, 9:36am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/so-japan-calling-us-out-re-china/4914/48 "2005-11-23T09:36:11Z")
China \> us. THEY EAT DOGS!!! you can’t argue with that. well you can…but it would only prove that you don’t get that I’m joking ---
**Author:** ![StrokedZ28](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/strokedz28/32/7592_2.png) [@StrokedZ28](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/StrokedZ28)\ **Post date:** [November 23, 2005, 9:40am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/so-japan-calling-us-out-re-china/4914/49 "2005-11-23T09:40:59Z")
> [@98 Red Ex](#): > > Uhh, they have them too if you werent aware. They do not have the delivery system like we do. Thats what keeps countries like China and NK from being major threats like the USSR was. Again this would be a last resort if an all out war were to occure. But I def would not rule nukes out. ---
**Author:** ![Deuce](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/deuce/32/7614_2.png) [@Deuce](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Deuce)\ **Post date:** [November 23, 2005, 9:43am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/so-japan-calling-us-out-re-china/4914/50 "2005-11-23T09:43:25Z")
> [@StrokedZ28](#): > > They do not have the delivery system like we do. Thats what keeps countries like China and NK from being major threats like the USSR was. > > Again this would be a last resort if an all out war were to occure. But I def would not rule nukes out. China is developing highly sophisticated cruise missiles capable of delivering large nuclear payloads ---
**Author:** ![Nikuk](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/nikuk/32/7254_2.png) [@Nikuk](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Nikuk)\ **Post date:** [November 23, 2005, 9:43am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/so-japan-calling-us-out-re-china/4914/51 "2005-11-23T09:43:48Z")
I love a good thread in the morning. > [@catalyst](#): > > I don’t think China would win a war against us. If we went to war with them it would be completely different than Iraq. If China attacked it would be a real threat to our freedom, which would make people want to get up off the couch and answer the call of duty. Iraq was never a threat to our freedom, and we have to pussyfoot around killing civilians and all the related political ramifications. The only thing China has over us in people, not military technology. While I do think that there is a large group of Americans that’ll rise up in arms, I’m afraid that the majority will simply sit back and watch it on their Big Screen HDTv’s -or- headrest monitor in their Daewoo SUV. We as a country have grown as disattached & isolated as Japan former. We (the general public) have chosen to make it so. and _that_ scares me. > [@Lucky Cheater](#): > > I agree with the concept of increased patriotism/nationalism. We all know that during ww2 a german was a kraut and the japanese were…well, choose a derogetory name…they all deserved to die in the eyes of the allied citizens…Do you think, though, in this age of heightened social awareness we would be able to reach that point of blind patriotism again? > > -Cheater- Blind patriotism of the few is not very worthwhile. However, as ZD pointed out “it only takes one man on a soapbox” to get the masses moving. See above w/regards to that. Even after 9/11/01 the anger & drive was fleeting. > [@Daddie](#): > > in no way would china bring up nukes. > > Let’s say, they nuke a high population city. Like, NYC for example. > > 8 Million. > > Beijing China, has 15 million people. > > Nuke for nuke, it would be a very ugly situation for china > > nukes will not ever get brought out ever, I don’t think. Howie FTW. Regardless of China’s history of ‘downplaying’ human life, they are smart enough to realize that 15 million people can make alot of goods, and be a major hit to a communist economy. > [@TrueBlue](#): > > I don’t think the chinese would try and take physically takeover the american mainland. > I do think the chinese would try and take over american allies which would draw america into a conflict.:gotme: Agreed, and agreed. This is where the problem lies. Maybe not in this presidential term, but in MANY others… the US of A has been baited in to “policing the world” and it wouldnt be hard to so again. IMO: especially once G-dubYa leaves office. God forbid another “Clinton-esque” president comes to power (_disclaimer: I liked clinton, but he policed the world more the GW - who I greatly dislike_). > [@RuBiCaNT](#): > > I am sure this was the same kind of attitude before we went into Vietnam. I am not making parallels to China and Vietnam, only the attitude… That’s not really surprising though, is it? Especially given the demo that we have here 🙂 > [@Zer0DazE](#): > > mike and mike bring up good points. we could stop them before they got out of their country, and we won a ton of battles in past wars by simply cutting off supplies and starving the troops in to submission. holy shit, did we just witness John change his own stance? Call the NEWS! :lol: ---
**Author:** ![StrokedZ28](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/strokedz28/32/7592_2.png) [@StrokedZ28](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/StrokedZ28)\ **Post date:** [November 23, 2005, 9:46am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/so-japan-calling-us-out-re-china/4914/52 "2005-11-23T09:46:03Z")
> [@Deuce](#): > > China is developing highly sophisticated cruise missiles capable of delivering large nuclear payloads I understand that they are trying to make them, but they don’t have them, and what they have will not reach US boarders. If a war were to break out today thier nukes would be usless to them. ---
**Author:** ![RuBiCaNT](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/rubicant/32/7622_2.png) [@RuBiCaNT](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/RuBiCaNT)\ **Post date:** [November 23, 2005, 9:47am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/so-japan-calling-us-out-re-china/4914/53 "2005-11-23T09:47:03Z")
> [@StrokedZ28](#): > > I understand that they are trying to make them, but they don’t have them, and what they have will not reach US boarders. > > If a war were to break out today thier nukes would be usless to them. China has 20 ICBM’s that can reach US soil… Your facts are incorrect. ---
**Author:** ![Fry](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/fry/32/7284_2.png) [@Fry](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Fry)\ **Post date:** [November 23, 2005, 9:51am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/so-japan-calling-us-out-re-china/4914/54 "2005-11-23T09:51:45Z")
Haha what a cheesy piece of truthless political propaganda that article was. As for actually going to war with China, I see 2 ways of doing it: 1.) Take over the ports & otherwise isolate them and watch a retardedly overpopulated country go to hell in a matter of a month or two. 2.) War w/China threatening my safety and well-being = my problem. Bunch of people dead or sick for 80 years from nukes in China = not my problem. Therefore: Nuke 'em. ---
**Author:** ![Zer0DazE](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/zer0daze/32/7624_2.png) [@Zer0DazE](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Zer0DazE)\ **Post date:** [November 23, 2005, 10:03am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/so-japan-calling-us-out-re-china/4914/55 "2005-11-23T10:03:28Z")
> [@Nikuk](#): > > holy shit, did we just witness John change his own stance? Call the NEWS! :lol: lol. piss off i didnt think about bombing the shit out of their ports, and even if/when russia goes commy again i dont see them siding with china. so they would be taking a beating from every side. or we could just send them another sick chicken ---
**Author:** ![Nikuk](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/nikuk/32/7254_2.png) [@Nikuk](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Nikuk)\ **Post date:** [November 23, 2005, 10:05am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/so-japan-calling-us-out-re-china/4914/56 "2005-11-23T10:05:21Z")
russia will go back to communism… like a baby to a teet. especially with more of the old party coming back to power. I dont see them being assimilated by anyone though, too much arrogance / pride. again, old party. Howevr, I DO see them joining alliance with China as commnuist brothers/sisters. So long as there is a common goal… ---
**Author:** ![Blue\_Eyed\_Devil](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/blue_eyed_devil/32/7292_2.png) [@Blue\_Eyed\_Devil](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Blue_Eyed_Devil)\ **Post date:** [November 23, 2005, 10:07am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/so-japan-calling-us-out-re-china/4914/57 "2005-11-23T10:07:30Z")
> [@BikerFry](#): > > Haha what a cheesy piece of truthless political propaganda that article was. > > As for actually going to war with China, I see 2 ways of doing it: > > 1.) Take over the ports & otherwise isolate them and watch a retardedly overpopulated country go to hell in a matter of a month or two. > > 2.) War w/China threatening my safety and well-being = my problem. > Bunch of people dead or sick for 80 years from nukes in China = not my problem. > Therefore: Nuke 'em. When I read that article I thought of a couple of high school boys trying to start a fight by saying, “you couldn’t beat him”. Kind of like this.:poke: It’s like that Japanese guy thinks that the USA is stupid enough to think it has to prove that it can “beat up” China. ---
**Author:** ![RuBiCaNT](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/rubicant/32/7622_2.png) [@RuBiCaNT](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/RuBiCaNT)\ **Post date:** [November 23, 2005, 10:07am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/so-japan-calling-us-out-re-china/4914/58 "2005-11-23T10:07:42Z")
> [@Nikuk](#): > > russia will go back to communism… like a baby to a teet. especially with more of the old party coming back to power. > I dont see them being assimilated by anyone though, too much arrogance / pride. again, old party. > Howevr, I DO see them joining alliance with China as commnuist brothers/sisters. So long as there is a common goal… It’s too early to accurately speculate on Russia, much less China’s intentions… ---
**Author:** ![Nikuk](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/nikuk/32/7254_2.png) [@Nikuk](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Nikuk)\ **Post date:** [November 23, 2005, 10:11am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/so-japan-calling-us-out-re-china/4914/59 "2005-11-23T10:11:06Z")
> [@RuBiCaNT](#): > > It’s too early to accurately speculate on Russia, much less China’s intentions… Really? You dont see that pattern in russia? ---
**Author:** ![RuBiCaNT](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/rubicant/32/7622_2.png) [@RuBiCaNT](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/RuBiCaNT)\ **Post date:** [November 23, 2005, 10:14am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/so-japan-calling-us-out-re-china/4914/60 "2005-11-23T10:14:33Z")
> [@Nikuk](#): > > Really? You dont see that pattern in russia? Anything can happen at this point… History may dictate what is going to happen but I am still on the fence with the whole Asia situation… [Previous page](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/so-japan-calling-us-out-re-china/4914.md?page=2) [Next page](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/so-japan-calling-us-out-re-china/4914.md?page=4)