# So, Japan calling US out re: China **URL:** \ **Category:** NYSpeed Off Topic\ **Created:** [November 23, 2005, 6:44am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/so-japan-calling-us-out-re-china/4914 "2005-11-23T06:44:40Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 4
**Author:** ![Blue\_Eyed\_Devil](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/blue_eyed_devil/32/7292_2.png) [@Blue\_Eyed\_Devil](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Blue_Eyed_Devil)\ **Post date:** [November 23, 2005, 10:17am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/so-japan-calling-us-out-re-china/4914/61 "2005-11-23T10:17:58Z")
> [@RuBiCaNT](#): > > China has 20 ICBM’s that can reach US soil… Your facts are incorrect. They also have a million boats that can reach US soil but both can be stopped long before they touch US soil. ---
**Author:** ![Zer0DazE](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/zer0daze/32/7624_2.png) [@Zer0DazE](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Zer0DazE)\ **Post date:** [November 23, 2005, 10:19am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/so-japan-calling-us-out-re-china/4914/62 "2005-11-23T10:19:35Z")
> [@AWDrifter](#): > > They also have a million boats that can reach US soil but both can be stopped long before they touch US soil. i have seen their boats in movies. those bamboo joints will never make it across the ocean 😉 ---
**Author:** ![Blue\_Eyed\_Devil](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/blue_eyed_devil/32/7292_2.png) [@Blue\_Eyed\_Devil](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Blue_Eyed_Devil)\ **Post date:** [November 23, 2005, 10:21am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/so-japan-calling-us-out-re-china/4914/63 "2005-11-23T10:21:23Z")
> [@Zer0DazE](#): > > i have seen their boats in movies. those bamboo joints will never make it across the ocean 😉 Now I know why they call them “junks”.:biglaugh: ---
**Author:** ![Nikuk](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/nikuk/32/7254_2.png) [@Nikuk](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Nikuk)\ **Post date:** [November 23, 2005, 10:27am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/so-japan-calling-us-out-re-china/4914/64 "2005-11-23T10:27:19Z")
lol > [@RuBiCaNT](#): > > Anything can happen at this point… History may dictate what is going to happen but I am still on the fence with the whole Asia situation… eh… i’m on the fence about asia. i can see it coming _possibly_ but I doubt it. my concerns are more about american response (the public). as far as russia, if this generation doesnt make an effort @ democracy, I forsee it falling back on “more prosperous” ways. just $0.02 ---
**Author:** ![RuBiCaNT](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/rubicant/32/7622_2.png) [@RuBiCaNT](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/RuBiCaNT)\ **Post date:** [November 23, 2005, 10:31am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/so-japan-calling-us-out-re-china/4914/65 "2005-11-23T10:31:48Z")
> [@Nikuk](#): > > lol > > eh… i’m on the fence about asia. i can see it coming _possibly_ but I doubt it. my concerns are more about american response (the public). > as far as russia, if this generation doesnt make an effort @ democracy, I forsee it falling back on “more prosperous” ways. > > just $0.02 All they really have to do is look back on history and see that the Iron fist of the USSR will never work and will never happen again. Democracy may not be for everyone, but some sort of republic or checks and balaces system is needed in this case… ---
**Author:** ![Nikuk](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/nikuk/32/7254_2.png) [@Nikuk](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Nikuk)\ **Post date:** [November 23, 2005, 10:33am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/so-japan-calling-us-out-re-china/4914/66 "2005-11-23T10:33:11Z")
Communism is still a bit extreme for my tastes. but it fucking looks great on paper. Stalin was a genious. So was Mao. Unfortunately they weree both psychotic to boot. ---
**Author:** ![Minglor](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/minglor/32/7373_2.png) [@Minglor](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Minglor)\ **Post date:** [November 23, 2005, 10:33am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/so-japan-calling-us-out-re-china/4914/67 "2005-11-23T10:33:45Z")
I say we do a preemptive stike. nuke em today kekekekeke zerg rush ---
**Author:** ![Nikuk](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/nikuk/32/7254_2.png) [@Nikuk](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Nikuk)\ **Post date:** [November 23, 2005, 10:34am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/so-japan-calling-us-out-re-china/4914/68 "2005-11-23T10:34:21Z")
^lol You rewriting doctrine also? ---
**Author:** ![Lucky\_Cheater](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/eb9ed0/32.png) [@Lucky\_Cheater](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Lucky_Cheater)\ **Post date:** [November 23, 2005, 11:19am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/so-japan-calling-us-out-re-china/4914/69 "2005-11-23T11:19:53Z")
> [@Minglor](#): > > kekekekeke zerg rush If they have done everything right they should already have 4 bunkers with 4 marines each inside. They should also have at least 5 missle towers. It’s too late for a zerg rush, we will need a mroe tactical plan. Perhaps send a queen just out of their range of vision and spit shit at them for hours just to annoy them? ---
**Author:** ![JEG](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/jeg/32/7246_2.png) [@JEG](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/JEG)\ **Post date:** [November 23, 2005, 11:25am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/so-japan-calling-us-out-re-china/4914/70 "2005-11-23T11:25:32Z")
Sheer numbers is what it comes down to…they have over 1 billion people more than us, if for every 1 of our guys we take out 100 of theirs…they still win. Only thing that would possably save our asses in an all out war with china is 1. allied help, and 2. out match them in technology, but its still a stretch. ---
**Author:** ![RuBiCaNT](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/rubicant/32/7622_2.png) [@RuBiCaNT](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/RuBiCaNT)\ **Post date:** [November 23, 2005, 11:26am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/so-japan-calling-us-out-re-china/4914/71 "2005-11-23T11:26:24Z")
> [@Lucky Cheater](#): > > If they have done everything right they should already have 4 bunkers with 4 marines each inside. They should also have at least 5 missle towers. It’s too late for a zerg rush, we will need a mroe tactical plan. Perhaps send a queen just out of their range of vision and spit shit at them for hours just to annoy them? Wasn’t there too the “Launch Detected” when the Ghosts made their mark? ---
**Author:** ![Lucky\_Cheater](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/eb9ed0/32.png) [@Lucky\_Cheater](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Lucky_Cheater)\ **Post date:** [November 23, 2005, 11:29am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/so-japan-calling-us-out-re-china/4914/72 "2005-11-23T11:29:54Z")
> [@RuBiCaNT](#): > > Wasn’t there too the “Launch Detected” when the Ghosts made their mark? yea…you know its over when “laun…laun…laun…launch detected” But that never happens during online games because the asshole playing protoss already had 10 cruisers and 8 million little flying bitches hovering over everyone elses shit by that point. ---
**Author:** ![jeeves744](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/jeeves744/32/7619_2.png) [@jeeves744](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/jeeves744)\ **Post date:** [November 23, 2005, 11:34am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/so-japan-calling-us-out-re-china/4914/73 "2005-11-23T11:34:21Z")
and Australia is still like “WTF mate?!?!” ---
**Author:** ![AlbinoMonkeyRat](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/bb73d2/32.png) [@AlbinoMonkeyRat](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/AlbinoMonkeyRat)\ **Post date:** [November 23, 2005, 11:41am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/so-japan-calling-us-out-re-china/4914/74 "2005-11-23T11:41:22Z")
^ lol ---
**Author:** ![StrokedZ28](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/strokedz28/32/7592_2.png) [@StrokedZ28](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/StrokedZ28)\ **Post date:** [November 23, 2005, 11:45am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/so-japan-calling-us-out-re-china/4914/75 "2005-11-23T11:45:22Z")
> [@RuBiCaNT](#): > > China has 20 ICBM’s that can reach US soil… Your facts are incorrect. If my facts are incorect then I apologize. But until you put up a credible source I can’t just assume that you are correct. ---
**Author:** ![Bacon](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/bacon/32/7230_2.png) [@Bacon](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Bacon)\ **Post date:** [November 23, 2005, 11:47am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/so-japan-calling-us-out-re-china/4914/76 "2005-11-23T11:47:36Z")
EDIT: Much can be learned from history as it tends to repeat more often than many realize. It’s happened before and will happen again. > [@Lucky Cheater](#): > > I agree with the concept of increased patriotism/nationalism. We all know that during ww2 a german was a kraut and the japanese were…well, choose a derogetory name…they all deserved to die in the eyes of the allied citizens…Do you think, though, in this age of heightened social awareness we would be able to reach that point of blind patriotism again? > > -Cheater- Yes. (9-11) > [@StrokedZ28](#): > > If my facts are incorect then I apologize. But until you put up a credible source I can’t just assume that you are correct. > **[Google](http://www.google.com/)** > > Search the world's information, including webpages, images, videos and more. Google has many special features to help you find exactly what you're looking for. Search for china ICBM Enjoy ---
**Author:** ![RuBiCaNT](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/rubicant/32/7622_2.png) [@RuBiCaNT](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/RuBiCaNT)\ **Post date:** [November 23, 2005, 12:07pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/so-japan-calling-us-out-re-china/4914/77 "2005-11-23T12:07:55Z")
> [@StrokedZ28](#): > > If my facts are incorect then I apologize. But until you put up a credible source I can’t just assume that you are correct. I saw it on CNN when they were speaking about China’s mass militarization… Here is a site that has a few specs… [http://fas.org/nuke/guide/china/icbm/](http://fas.org/nuke/guide/china/icbm/) The DF-5 is the 13,000 Kilometer that can reach US soil anywhere… [http://www.wisconsinproject.org/countries/china/ChinaBMupdate.html](http://www.wisconsinproject.org/countries/china/ChinaBMupdate.html) ---
**Author:** ![Rx3](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/rx3/32/7194_2.png) [@Rx3](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Rx3)\ **Post date:** [November 23, 2005, 12:22pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/so-japan-calling-us-out-re-china/4914/78 "2005-11-23T12:22:42Z")
> Mr. Ishihara said U.S. ground forces, **with the exception of the Marines, are “extremely incompetent” and would be unable to stem a Chinese conventional attack.** Probably the only part of this statement that I could agree with. Quite honestly our military in it’s current state is not cut out for long drawn out wars, especially if someone finds a way to deter our airpower. This could change in about 4 years when the next line of combat fighters finally start being delivered, but even then, it remains to be seen. ---
**Author:** ![TrueBlue](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/trueblue/32/7245_2.png) [@TrueBlue](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/TrueBlue)\ **Post date:** [November 23, 2005, 12:27pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/so-japan-calling-us-out-re-china/4914/79 "2005-11-23T12:27:20Z")
> [@Rx3](#): > > This could change in about 4 years when the next line of combat fighters finally start being delivered, but even then, it remains to be seen. we already have F/A-22’s stationed at nellis, langley, and a few others. they’re operational. unless you mean the JSF: [http://www.jsf.mil/f35/](http://www.jsf.mil/f35/) ---
**Author:** ![Nikuk](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/nikuk/32/7254_2.png) [@Nikuk](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Nikuk)\ **Post date:** [November 23, 2005, 12:33pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/so-japan-calling-us-out-re-china/4914/80 "2005-11-23T12:33:04Z")
> [@Rx3](#): > > Probably the only part of this statement that I could agree with. > > Quite honestly our military in it’s current state is not cut out for long drawn out wars, especially if someone finds a way to deter our airpower. This could change in about 4 years when the next line of combat fighters finally start being delivered, but even then, it remains to be seen. that’s exactly the problem, the US military is not geared towards long campaigns. if this WWIII were to happen, we’d be re-fitting on the go, more or less. [Previous page](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/so-japan-calling-us-out-re-china/4914.md?page=3) [Next page](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/so-japan-calling-us-out-re-china/4914.md?page=5)