# so kramerbuccs24 says he'll run 14.0 on the 30th **URL:** \ **Category:** Shift518 Off Topic\ **Created:** [July 27, 2008, 7:02pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/so-kramerbuccs24-says-hell-run-14-0-on-the-30th/238013 "2008-07-27T19:02:33Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 2
**Author:** ![K20power](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/41988e/32.png) [@K20power](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/K20power)\ **Post date:** [July 27, 2008, 7:23pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/so-kramerbuccs24-says-hell-run-14-0-on-the-30th/238013/21 "2008-07-27T19:23:23Z")
> [@phil2](#): > > Congrats! Now your faster than a rental car. :🙂 :rofl wow ---
**Author:** ![Mk4\_30R\_Ban](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/mk4_30r_ban/32/6347_2.png) [@Mk4\_30R\_Ban](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Mk4_30R_Ban)\ **Post date:** [July 27, 2008, 7:24pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/so-kramerbuccs24-says-hell-run-14-0-on-the-30th/238013/22 "2008-07-27T19:24:49Z")
> [@kramerbuccs24](#): > > Absolutely. That was with the headerback-exhaust, you just proved yourself wrong. > > I have since decided to modify the suspension more than the engine because autoX is 100,000,000 times more fun than drag racing. i dont want to quote all the things you said, i saw claims of a 14.2@100mph with an intake only, with all these 60ft times… well young lad, you do realize that when the 60ft time drops, your final MPH will drop as well in most situations. if you want to go from a 14.5 with a 2.2-2.3 60ft currently to a 14.0-14.1, youre gonna need 20-30whp more atleast and/or 2.0-2.1 60ft. ---
**Author:** ![Mk4\_30R\_Ban](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/mk4_30r_ban/32/6347_2.png) [@Mk4\_30R\_Ban](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Mk4_30R_Ban)\ **Post date:** [July 27, 2008, 7:26pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/so-kramerbuccs24-says-hell-run-14-0-on-the-30th/238013/23 "2008-07-27T19:26:55Z")
for reference my car went from a 14.6@104 with a 2.7x 60ft to a 14.0@105 with a 2.48. do you follow? the reason i picked up MPH was it was a 3-4 hour time difference between runs so the air temp/track temp changed, car cooled down… same 14psi ---
**Author:** ![kramerbuccs24](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/kramerbuccs24/32/6397_2.png) [@kramerbuccs24](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/kramerbuccs24)\ **Post date:** [July 27, 2008, 7:30pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/so-kramerbuccs24-says-hell-run-14-0-on-the-30th/238013/24 "2008-07-27T19:30:41Z")
> [@Mk4 30R](#): > > i dont want to quote all the things you said, i saw claims of a 14.2@100mph with an intake only, with all these 60ft times… well young lad, you do realize that when the 60ft time drops, your final MPH will drop as well in most situations. if you want to go from a 14.5 with a 2.2-2.3 60ft currently to a 14.0-14.1, youre gonna need 20-30whp more atleast and/or 2.0-2.1 60ft. Everyone here including me is completely benchracing on this whole subject. Can we postpone all arguments until I run the car on the 30th? In case anyone isn’t clear, my best case AKA the best I can get AKA not guaranteeing I’m going to get these numbers are: 14.2xx @98.5-99mph with a 2.20 60ft. REALISITCALLY 14.3xx-14.45 @ 98mph with a 2.30 60ft. ---
**Author:** ![Mk4\_30R\_Ban](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/mk4_30r_ban/32/6347_2.png) [@Mk4\_30R\_Ban](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Mk4_30R_Ban)\ **Post date:** [July 27, 2008, 7:31pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/so-kramerbuccs24-says-hell-run-14-0-on-the-30th/238013/25 "2008-07-27T19:31:37Z")
16-18psi in the tires helps. ---
**Author:** ![Mk4\_30R\_Ban](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/mk4_30r_ban/32/6347_2.png) [@Mk4\_30R\_Ban](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Mk4_30R_Ban)\ **Post date:** [July 27, 2008, 7:32pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/so-kramerbuccs24-says-hell-run-14-0-on-the-30th/238013/26 "2008-07-27T19:32:07Z")
i do all my runs at 35psi… probably not a good idea… but once i mount slicks… 8psi ---
**Author:** ![kramerbuccs24](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/kramerbuccs24/32/6397_2.png) [@kramerbuccs24](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/kramerbuccs24)\ **Post date:** [July 27, 2008, 7:35pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/so-kramerbuccs24-says-hell-run-14-0-on-the-30th/238013/27 "2008-07-27T19:35:46Z")
> [@Mk4 30R](#): > > 16-18psi in the tires helps. I ran 18psi in my tires to get the time in my sig with a 2.32 60ft, I’ve been asking for tips from other Alti SER guys and they said 21-24 psi was the best range to be in, I’m going to try there on Wed. Also, I left traction control on for all of my runs on Jun 12th or whatever, the other SER guys highly recommended turning it off, so I’m going to be trying that too. ---
**Author:** ![dkid15](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/dkid15/32/6398_2.png) [@dkid15](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/dkid15)\ **Post date:** [July 27, 2008, 7:47pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/so-kramerbuccs24-says-hell-run-14-0-on-the-30th/238013/28 "2008-07-27T19:47:38Z")
Why are you making your car an auto cross car all of a sudden? its fast in a straight line why not make it faster? ---
**Author:** ![McBitchin](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/ecc23a/32.png) [@McBitchin](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/McBitchin)\ **Post date:** [July 27, 2008, 7:52pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/so-kramerbuccs24-says-hell-run-14-0-on-the-30th/238013/29 "2008-07-27T19:52:23Z")
i wouldnt call 14’s a fast car ---
**Author:** ![kramerbuccs24](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/kramerbuccs24/32/6397_2.png) [@kramerbuccs24](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/kramerbuccs24)\ **Post date:** [July 27, 2008, 7:59pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/so-kramerbuccs24-says-hell-run-14-0-on-the-30th/238013/30 "2008-07-27T19:59:45Z")
> [@dkid15](#): > > Why are you making your car an auto cross car all of a sudden? its fast in a straight line why not make it faster? Because autoX is a trillion times more fun than straight line drag racing. I just confirmed that at the July 20th autoX. With a decent amount of suspension/brake modifications and if my driving improves as it has been I could be fairly competitive in the STX class that I’m currently in. I’ll stay in the STX class as long as I don’t turbocharge, supercharge or swap my engine, so I’m not moving out of that class, ever. If you’re really interested, you can read this [http://moutons.org/sccasolo/Rules/street\_touring.html#17.11.%20STR](http://moutons.org/sccasolo/Rules/street_touring.html#17.11.%20STR) and see that I’m already fairly well established in the STX class, like I have the widest/stickiest tires allowed, and all suspension/engine modifications that I will do will keep me in the STX class. Bobby, mid 14’s are not fast. Please stop calling it fast. Comments like that are what get me into trouble from assclowns like chuck in the first place. ---
**Author:** ![Shawn96VR-4](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/eada6e/32.png) [@Shawn96VR-4](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Shawn96VR-4)\ **Post date:** [July 27, 2008, 8:08pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/so-kramerbuccs24-says-hell-run-14-0-on-the-30th/238013/31 "2008-07-27T20:08:27Z")
> [@dkid15](#): > > Why are you making your car an auto cross car all of a sudden? its fast in a straight line why not make it faster? Fast? :lol: > [@Mk4 30R](#): > > i dont want to quote all the things you said, i saw claims of a 14.2@100mph with an intake only, with all these 60ft times… well young lad, you do realize that when the 60ft time drops, your final MPH will drop as well in most situations. if you want to go from a 14.5 with a 2.2-2.3 60ft currently to a 14.0-14.1, youre gonna need 20-30whp more atleast and/or 2.0-2.1 60ft. Good post. A lot of people don’t understand this. Picking up MPH in a NA car is not really easy especially just based on driving. ---
**Author:** ![kramerbuccs24](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/kramerbuccs24/32/6397_2.png) [@kramerbuccs24](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/kramerbuccs24)\ **Post date:** [July 27, 2008, 8:20pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/so-kramerbuccs24-says-hell-run-14-0-on-the-30th/238013/32 "2008-07-27T20:20:51Z")
> [@Shawn96VR-4](#): > > Fast? :lol: > > Good post. A lot of people don’t understand this. > > Picking up MPH in a NA car is not really easy especially just based on driving. Thats true. I’ve been doing more research since I made the 14.2 @100 claim and I’ve realized that. I’m still learning 😉 ---
**Author:** ![94Gt5.0](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/94gt5.0/32/6377_2.png) [@94Gt5.0](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/94Gt5.0)\ **Post date:** [July 27, 2008, 8:52pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/so-kramerbuccs24-says-hell-run-14-0-on-the-30th/238013/33 "2008-07-27T20:52:07Z")
I went from a 12.6@112, to a 11.82@112 changing my converter alone(lower 60’). So that calculation doesnt always work… ---
**Author:** ![99FRC](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/99frc/32/6335_2.png) [@99FRC](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/99FRC)\ **Post date:** [July 27, 2008, 8:55pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/so-kramerbuccs24-says-hell-run-14-0-on-the-30th/238013/34 "2008-07-27T20:55:31Z")
> [@McBitchin](#): > > i wouldnt call 14’s a fast car And you drive what again? ---
**Author:** ![mcflurry](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/mcflurry/32/6468_2.png) [@mcflurry](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/mcflurry)\ **Post date:** [July 27, 2008, 8:58pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/so-kramerbuccs24-says-hell-run-14-0-on-the-30th/238013/35 "2008-07-27T20:58:13Z")
hahahaha [quote=Pants Party] ---
**Author:** ![Mk4\_30R\_Ban](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/mk4_30r_ban/32/6347_2.png) [@Mk4\_30R\_Ban](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Mk4_30R_Ban)\ **Post date:** [July 27, 2008, 9:00pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/so-kramerbuccs24-says-hell-run-14-0-on-the-30th/238013/36 "2008-07-27T21:00:52Z")
a 1984 honda civic wagon with AWD… its sick looks like this ![http://www.motoringjstyle.com/art/market1107/87-honda-civic-wagon.jpg](http://www.motoringjstyle.com/art/market1107/87-honda-civic-wagon.jpg) ---
**Author:** ![cazwrx187](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/cazwrx187/32/6388_2.png) [@cazwrx187](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/cazwrx187)\ **Post date:** [July 27, 2008, 9:03pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/so-kramerbuccs24-says-hell-run-14-0-on-the-30th/238013/37 "2008-07-27T21:03:10Z")
> [@Mk4 30R](#): > > a 1984 honda civic wagon with AWD… its sick > > looks like this ![http://www.motoringjstyle.com/art/market1107/87-honda-civic-wagon.jpg](http://www.motoringjstyle.com/art/market1107/87-honda-civic-wagon.jpg) Not gonna lie. That car is pretty cool. ---
**Author:** ![94Gt5.0](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/94gt5.0/32/6377_2.png) [@94Gt5.0](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/94Gt5.0)\ **Post date:** [July 27, 2008, 9:11pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/so-kramerbuccs24-says-hell-run-14-0-on-the-30th/238013/38 "2008-07-27T21:11:25Z")
> [@cazwrx187](#): > > Not gonna lie. That car is pretty cool. :idiots :nuts ---
**Author:** ![mcflurry](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/mcflurry/32/6468_2.png) [@mcflurry](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/mcflurry)\ **Post date:** [July 27, 2008, 9:16pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/so-kramerbuccs24-says-hell-run-14-0-on-the-30th/238013/39 "2008-07-27T21:16:53Z")
i agree with adam lol ---
**Author:** ![Shawn96VR-4](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/eada6e/32.png) [@Shawn96VR-4](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Shawn96VR-4)\ **Post date:** [July 27, 2008, 9:29pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/so-kramerbuccs24-says-hell-run-14-0-on-the-30th/238013/40 "2008-07-27T21:29:44Z")
> [@94Gt5.0](#): > > I went from a 12.6@112, to a 11.82@112 changing my converter alone(lower 60’). So that calculation doesnt always work… It doesn’t because trap is affected by many things but generally it seems to have a lower affect on the trap. [Previous page](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/so-kramerbuccs24-says-hell-run-14-0-on-the-30th/238013.md?page=1) [Next page](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/so-kramerbuccs24-says-hell-run-14-0-on-the-30th/238013.md?page=3)