# So long Saturn

**URL:** <https://forums.speedlife.net/t/so-long-saturn/74277>\
**Category:** NYSpeed Automotive\
**Created:** [October 1, 2009, 6:11am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/so-long-saturn/74277 "2009-10-01T06:11:44Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![AShort](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/ashort/32/4947_2.png) [@AShort](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/AShort)\
**Post date:** [October 1, 2009, 11:45am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/so-long-saturn/74277/21 "2009-10-01T11:45:34Z")

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👋

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**Author:** ![Blue\_Eyed\_Devil](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/blue_eyed_devil/32/7292_2.png) [@Blue\_Eyed\_Devil](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Blue_Eyed_Devil)\
**Post date:** [October 1, 2009, 12:43pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/so-long-saturn/74277/22 "2009-10-01T12:43:18Z")

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Anyone notice 1/2 empty car lots? Here in Springville the inventory is waaaay lower than I can ever remember at the Ford and Chrysler lots.

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**Author:** ![Motocrossx23](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/motocrossx23/32/5120_2.png) [@Motocrossx23](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Motocrossx23)\
**Post date:** [October 1, 2009, 12:43pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/so-long-saturn/74277/23 "2009-10-01T12:43:58Z")

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> [@JustinH](#):
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> I still think a used ion is a pretty cheap decent car for anybody. An 05+ one is identical to a cobalt, and shares all the same parts.

I’m sorry, I’m an uber hater for GM, but that is NOT a good thing to be. I’ll take a car that doesn’t depreciate 10 fold after a year or so over a cheaply made saturn.

I mean don’t get me wrong, if your looking for a first car out of high school, sure go ahead and rock a saturn, but I’d never buy a GM new in my life. Not even worth my time.

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**Author:** ![Cavi\_Mike](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/cavi_mike/32/5217_2.png) [@Cavi\_Mike](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Cavi_Mike)\
**Post date:** [October 1, 2009, 1:11pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/so-long-saturn/74277/24 "2009-10-01T13:11:52Z")

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Well at least I don’t have to hear that guy say ‘pundit’ anymore.

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**Author:** ![JayS](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/jays/32/15375_2.png) [@JayS](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/JayS)\
**Post date:** [October 1, 2009, 1:26pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/so-long-saturn/74277/25 "2009-10-01T13:26:09Z")

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> [@Motocrossx23](#):
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> I’m sorry, I’m an uber hater for GM, but that is NOT a good thing to be. I’ll take a car that doesn’t depreciate 10 fold after a year or so over a cheaply made saturn.
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> I mean don’t get me wrong, if your looking for a first car out of high school, sure go ahead and rock a saturn, but I’d never buy a GM new in my life. Not even worth my time.

Don’t you drive a jetta, guessing from your avatar?

[http://autos.yahoo.com/2005\_volkswagen\_jetta\_sedan\_gli\_1.8t/](http://autos.yahoo.com/2005_volkswagen_jetta_sedan_gli_1.8t/)  
The 2005 has lost 43% of it’s value.

[http://autos.yahoo.com/2005\_chevrolet\_cobalt\_ss\_supercharged\_coupe/](http://autos.yahoo.com/2005_chevrolet_cobalt_ss_supercharged_coupe/)  
The 2005 has lost 49%

Woohoo… a massive 6% difference.

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**Author:** ![Joe](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/joe/32/7219_2.png) [@Joe](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Joe)\
**Post date:** [October 1, 2009, 1:28pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/so-long-saturn/74277/26 "2009-10-01T13:28:53Z")

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Not to mention you’d be paying much closer to sticker on the VW whereas the Chevy dealer would be throwing discounts at you

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**Author:** ![Cavi\_Mike](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/cavi_mike/32/5217_2.png) [@Cavi\_Mike](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Cavi_Mike)\
**Post date:** [October 1, 2009, 1:34pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/so-long-saturn/74277/27 "2009-10-01T13:34:14Z")

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That’s because you could get way more money back on the resale of a VW even though they’re not considered the greatest of reliable cars.

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**Author:** ![JayS](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/jays/32/15375_2.png) [@JayS](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/JayS)\
**Post date:** [October 1, 2009, 1:34pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/so-long-saturn/74277/28 "2009-10-01T13:34:55Z")

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Yeah, I based my figured on MSRP, and you know no one pays MSRP on a domestic.

> [@Cavi Mike](#):
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> That’s because you could get way more money back on the resale of a VW even though they’re not considered the greatest of reliable cars.

Are you illiterate, or just stupid?

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**Author:** ![Joe](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/joe/32/7219_2.png) [@Joe](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Joe)\
**Post date:** [October 1, 2009, 1:35pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/so-long-saturn/74277/29 "2009-10-01T13:35:13Z")

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> [@Cavi Mike](#):
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> That’s because you could get way more money back on the resale of a VW even though they’re not considered the greatest of reliable cars.

somebody didnt read the link

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**Author:** ![boardjnky4](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/96bed5/32.png) [@boardjnky4](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/boardjnky4)\
**Post date:** [October 1, 2009, 1:37pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/so-long-saturn/74277/30 "2009-10-01T13:37:23Z")

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> [@JayS](#):
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> Don’t you drive a jetta, guessing from your avatar?
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> [http://autos.yahoo.com/2005\_volkswagen\_jetta\_sedan\_gli\_1.8t/](http://autos.yahoo.com/2005_volkswagen_jetta_sedan_gli_1.8t/)  
> The 2005 has lost 43% of it’s value.
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> [http://autos.yahoo.com/2005\_chevrolet\_cobalt\_ss\_supercharged\_coupe/](http://autos.yahoo.com/2005_chevrolet_cobalt_ss_supercharged_coupe/)  
> The 2005 has lost 49%
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> Woohoo… a massive 6% difference.

no offense, but the cobalt SS is a specialty vehicle. pretty common knowledge that specialty vehicles hold their value way above a more standard car.

edit: n/m, I looked up and saw that the LT is relatively similar in percentage lost

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**Author:** ![Avatar](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/avatar/32/5076_2.png) [@Avatar](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Avatar)\
**Post date:** [October 1, 2009, 1:38pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/so-long-saturn/74277/31 "2009-10-01T13:38:41Z")

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Good riddance

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**Author:** ![JayS](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/jays/32/15375_2.png) [@JayS](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/JayS)\
**Post date:** [October 1, 2009, 1:42pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/so-long-saturn/74277/32 "2009-10-01T13:42:08Z")

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> [@boardjnky4](#):
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> no offense, but the cobalt SS is a specialty vehicle. pretty common knowledge that specialty vehicles hold their value way above a more standard car.
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> edit: n/m, I looked up and saw that the LT is relatively similar in percentage lost

Yeah, but the 1.8T isn’t really a common version of the jetta either. I picked the performance versions because they are more likely to be cars people on nyspeed would buy.

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**Author:** ![Cavi\_Mike](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/cavi_mike/32/5217_2.png) [@Cavi\_Mike](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Cavi_Mike)\
**Post date:** [October 1, 2009, 1:44pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/so-long-saturn/74277/33 "2009-10-01T13:44:29Z")

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> [@JayS](#):
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> Are you illiterate, or just stupid?

What boardjnky4 said. You comparing the Cobalt SS to the everyday Jetta sedan doesn’t make sense. Compare the average Chevy to the average VW and you’ll get your real answer.

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**Author:** ![boardjnky4](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/96bed5/32.png) [@boardjnky4](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/boardjnky4)\
**Post date:** [October 1, 2009, 1:48pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/so-long-saturn/74277/34 "2009-10-01T13:48:32Z")

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> [@JayS](#):
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> Yeah, but the 1.8T isn’t really a common version of the jetta either. I picked the performance versions because they are more likely to be cars people on nyspeed would buy.

Jetta GLI is the fancy “performance” version

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**Author:** ![boardjnky4](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/96bed5/32.png) [@boardjnky4](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/boardjnky4)\
**Post date:** [October 1, 2009, 1:49pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/so-long-saturn/74277/35 "2009-10-01T13:49:01Z")

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> [@Cavi Mike](#):
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> What boardjnky4 said. You comparing the Cobalt SS to the everyday Jetta sedan doesn’t make sense. Compare the average Chevy to the average VW and you’ll get your real answer.

see my edit…you actually get the same answer, if not better

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**Author:** ![JayS](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/jays/32/15375_2.png) [@JayS](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/JayS)\
**Post date:** [October 1, 2009, 1:51pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/so-long-saturn/74277/36 "2009-10-01T13:51:49Z")

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> [@boardjnky4](#):
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> see my edit…you actually get the same answer, if not better

Especially when you knock 1500-2000 off the MSRP of the domestic because even with the worst negotiating skills in the world you can always get that at any chevy dealer.

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**Author:** ![DokiZen6x](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/dokizen6x/32/5386_2.png) [@DokiZen6x](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/DokiZen6x)\
**Post date:** [October 1, 2009, 1:55pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/so-long-saturn/74277/37 "2009-10-01T13:55:00Z")

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Mybe you guys dont realize how easy my Saturn is to work on/find parts for. My 01 Sc2 is like a friggen Lego set. I can go to the junkyard and find almost any 1.9 twin cam from 93-02 and have the part I need on it. It never rusts, it takes one hell of a hit, and if my motor/trans for some reason dies, I can have another one in it within three hours in my driveway for under $100. I really dont care about the value of the car, cause if this one gets wrecked, I can buy another one for $500 and have all my “mods” swap over without any complication.

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**Author:** ![mike125k](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/mike125k/32/7282_2.png) [@mike125k](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/mike125k)\
**Post date:** [October 1, 2009, 1:59pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/so-long-saturn/74277/38 "2009-10-01T13:59:10Z")

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> [@Cavi Mike](#):
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> What boardjnky4 said. You comparing the Cobalt SS to the everyday Jetta sedan doesn’t make sense. Compare the average Chevy to the average VW and you’ll get your real answer.

The GLI is the top of the line Jetta. Seems to me its a pretty apples to apples comparison.

Edit: I love how brainwashed (ie: stupid) some of you domestic haters are that you can’t even acknowledge actual facts.

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**Author:** ![Cavi\_Mike](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/cavi_mike/32/5217_2.png) [@Cavi\_Mike](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Cavi_Mike)\
**Post date:** [October 1, 2009, 1:59pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/so-long-saturn/74277/39 "2009-10-01T13:59:37Z")

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I’m gonna miss Saturn. They were way ahead of the game. I really wish they didn’t sell out to GM, I bet they would be the best selling car in America right now if they hadn’t.

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**Author:** ![Joe](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/joe/32/7219_2.png) [@Joe](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Joe)\
**Post date:** [October 1, 2009, 2:00pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/so-long-saturn/74277/40 "2009-10-01T14:00:37Z")

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Saturn was founded by GM. :eyebrow:

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