# So long Tom Golisano? (Sabres sale rumors heating up) **URL:** \ **Category:** NYSpeed Off Topic\ **Created:** [November 30, 2010, 8:21am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/so-long-tom-golisano-sabres-sale-rumors-heating-up/206676 "2010-11-30T08:21:15Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 4
**Author:** ![system](https://canada1.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/uploads/speedlife/original/2X/b/b7170c8eddc0b95ece6b88172b2f416a08489a45.png) [@system](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/system)\ **Post date:** [December 29, 2010, 10:20am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/so-long-tom-golisano-sabres-sale-rumors-heating-up/206676/61 "2010-12-29T10:20:07Z")
> [@ProgRocker](#): > > Is our top point scorer year after year. He may be a dick in public, but he plays good hockey. Ennis is good and I’d like to see him stay, but I think often times his stick is moving faster than his brain. There’s no need to put the moves on an opposing player in your own defensive zone, toss it off the boards and get it out. Myers you have to keep, Miller I almost want to see traded ONLY because he’s such a good goaltender but we waste his talents in Buffalo…He deserves better. I was just refering to his season ending injury as of late. I don’t disagree. Miller however, should absolutely stay. Why? Because I’m greedy. ---
**Author:** ![Beck](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/beck/32/28683_2.png) [@Beck](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Beck)\ **Post date:** [December 29, 2010, 12:27pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/so-long-tom-golisano-sabres-sale-rumors-heating-up/206676/62 "2010-12-29T12:27:54Z")
Roy is disposable, as is his salary. He’s a top line center on 3-4 teams in the NHL (Buffalo being one of them). Put him anywhere else and he’s a 50 point guy. He’s lazy and makes bad decisions 50% of the time. He’s only achieved a point per game in one season. He has 9 points in his last 22 playoff games. $3.5/$4 million a year, no thanks. ---------- Post added at 03:27 PM ---------- Previous post was at 03:16 PM ---------- Pominville makes $5.5/season - Connolly $4.5/season - Roy $4/season. Ryan Getzlaf makes $5/season as does Bobby Ryan Krejci/Savard make $4/season Hossa has $5/season cap hit Datsyuk/Zetterberg @ $6/season Parise is at $3/season (he’s going to catch $5/season next year after he goes RFA) Richards makes $5/season St. Louis is $5/season All these guys are stellar, year after year. Comparing any of them to the 3 aforementioned Sabres is ridiculous. This team seriously mismanages the cap and they don’t even spend all of it. Don’t get me wrong, I’m glad we arent strapped like NJ or have someone like Shawn Horcoff signed @ $6/season or Dustin Penner. ---
**Author:** ![STEALTTH](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/stealtth/32/7582_2.png) [@STEALTTH](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/STEALTTH)\ **Post date:** [December 30, 2010, 11:59am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/so-long-tom-golisano-sabres-sale-rumors-heating-up/206676/63 "2010-12-30T11:59:57Z")
I think roy is worth $4mill a year as our top point getter for 4 consecutive seasons and what might have been a 5th year if he didn’t get hurt this year. Connolly can go, so can Pominville. ---
**Author:** ![Jam](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/jam/32/7235_2.png) [@Jam](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Jam)\ **Post date:** [December 30, 2010, 12:11pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/so-long-tom-golisano-sabres-sale-rumors-heating-up/206676/64 "2010-12-30T12:11:19Z")
tim connolly needs to GTFOOMF ---
**Author:** ![JayS](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/jays/32/15375_2.png) [@JayS](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/JayS)\ **Post date:** [December 30, 2010, 12:22pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/so-long-tom-golisano-sabres-sale-rumors-heating-up/206676/65 "2010-12-30T12:22:05Z")
Still hoping for a coaching and management change before a wholesale player change. Fill some holes in the lines, get some fresh thinking in here, and see where it goes before blowing up the whole team. ---
**Author:** ![BOBBYGRV](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/ed8c4c/32.png) [@BOBBYGRV](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/BOBBYGRV)\ **Post date:** [December 30, 2010, 1:03pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/so-long-tom-golisano-sabres-sale-rumors-heating-up/206676/66 "2010-12-30T13:03:11Z")
> [@JayS](#): > > Still hoping for a coaching and management change before a wholesale player change. Fills some holes in the lines, get some fresh thinking in here, and see where it goes before blowing up the whole team. x2 a change in coaching could unleash some of the unknown players or even current goal scorers to do good things. ---
**Author:** ![upstateclipse](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/upstateclipse/32/7348_2.png) [@upstateclipse](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/upstateclipse)\ **Post date:** [January 31, 2011, 3:01pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/so-long-tom-golisano-sabres-sale-rumors-heating-up/206676/67 "2011-01-31T15:01:35Z")
Bump for possibly this week… > **[Sources: Sabres announcing sale deal Thursday](http://www.espn.com/nhl/news/story?id=6071370)** > > The Buffalo Sabres will announce a purchase agreement by billionaire Terry Pegula by the end of the week, multiples sources told ESPN.com Saturday. ---
**Author:** ![Tunerfreak](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/tunerfreak/32/7427_2.png) [@Tunerfreak](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Tunerfreak)\ **Post date:** [February 4, 2011, 9:09am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/so-long-tom-golisano-sabres-sale-rumors-heating-up/206676/68 "2011-02-04T09:09:04Z")
i am surprised no one posted this, its now official [http://www.wgr550.com/Golisano-sells-Sabres--Quinn-to-depart-organzation/9122264](http://www.wgr550.com/Golisano-sells-Sabres--Quinn-to-depart-organzation/9122264) ---
**Author:** ![itsJim](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/c67d28/32.png) [@itsJim](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/itsJim)\ **Post date:** [February 4, 2011, 9:24am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/so-long-tom-golisano-sabres-sale-rumors-heating-up/206676/69 "2011-02-04T09:24:14Z")
Roy sucks… who cares if he is one of our top goal scorers when the team plays better without him??? ---
**Author:** ![BOBBYGRV](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/ed8c4c/32.png) [@BOBBYGRV](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/BOBBYGRV)\ **Post date:** [February 4, 2011, 9:50am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/so-long-tom-golisano-sabres-sale-rumors-heating-up/206676/70 "2011-02-04T09:50:07Z")
> [@itsJim](#): > > Roy sucks… who cares if he is one of our top goal scorers when the team plays better without him??? How exactly does the team play better without him? What is your factual proof here? ---
**Author:** ![JayS](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/jays/32/15375_2.png) [@JayS](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/JayS)\ **Post date:** [February 4, 2011, 10:04am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/so-long-tom-golisano-sabres-sale-rumors-heating-up/206676/71 "2011-02-04T10:04:27Z")
> [@LZ](#): > > won’t happen Still think so? 1242 ---
**Author:** ![LZ1](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/7ab992/32.png) [@LZ1](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/LZ1)\ **Post date:** [February 4, 2011, 10:17am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/so-long-tom-golisano-sabres-sale-rumors-heating-up/206676/72 "2011-02-04T10:17:19Z")
Lol I actually ran into Larry after I said that ---
**Author:** ![Paulo](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/paulo/32/7328_2.png) [@Paulo](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Paulo)\ **Post date:** [February 4, 2011, 10:17am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/so-long-tom-golisano-sabres-sale-rumors-heating-up/206676/73 "2011-02-04T10:17:36Z")
I was really happy to hear Golisano’s comments about the Bills. We’ll see if it ever comes down to it, but for now it really seems like this guy cares about Buffalo. :tup: And huge :tup: to having a no-move clause in the contract. ---
**Author:** ![Shockwave179](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/shockwave179/32/7496_2.png) [@Shockwave179](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Shockwave179)\ **Post date:** [February 4, 2011, 10:24am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/so-long-tom-golisano-sabres-sale-rumors-heating-up/206676/74 "2011-02-04T10:24:49Z")
Heard this one the news this morning. He isn’t as bad as people say he is. **_Golisano revealed a surprise during his opening statement that a prospective buyer offered the Sabres $70 million more than Terry Pegula’s purchase price of $175 million and $14 million in liabilities. However, the team turned down the offer as the buyer demanded that the team would be allowed to move away from Buffalo._** ---
**Author:** ![ProgRocker](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/progrocker/32/5434_2.png) [@ProgRocker](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/ProgRocker)\ **Post date:** [February 4, 2011, 10:30am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/so-long-tom-golisano-sabres-sale-rumors-heating-up/206676/75 "2011-02-04T10:30:12Z")
> [@itsJim](#): > > Roy sucks… who cares if he is one of our top goal scorers when the team plays better without him??? How does that even make sense? He’s led the team in points for the past few years. Is usually one of the top goal scorers on the team. So basically since he’s doing what he’s paid to do we should dump him? > [@Paulo](#): > > I was really happy to hear Golisano’s comments about the Bills. We’ll see if it ever comes down to it, but for now it really seems like this guy cares about Buffalo. :tup: > > And huge :tup: to having a no-move clause in the contract. > [@Shockwave179](#): > > Heard this one the news this morning. He isn’t as bad as people say he is. > > **_Golisano revealed a surprise during his opening statement that a prospective buyer offered the Sabres $70 million more than Terry Pegula’s purchase price of $175 million and $14 million in liabilities. However, the team turned down the offer as the buyer demanded that the team would be allowed to move away from Buffalo._** :tup: indeed, although the NHL wouldn’t have allowed the moving of the team anyway. If they haven’t moved Phoenix whos average attendance is about 1/3 of the capacity, why would they move the Sabres? I’m assuming that would also mean the moving of the Bandits and JR. Sabres as well? WOuldn’t happen. ---
**Author:** ![Beck](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/beck/32/28683_2.png) [@Beck](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Beck)\ **Post date:** [February 4, 2011, 10:48am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/so-long-tom-golisano-sabres-sale-rumors-heating-up/206676/76 "2011-02-04T10:48:39Z")
> [@LZ](#): > > won’t happen > [@LZ](#): > > Beck you know you have pretty much been wrong with everything you post about the Sabres I just came in here to post this. ---------- Post added at 01:48 PM ---------- Previous post was at 01:46 PM ---------- Oh and it was Jim Balsillie who offered up $70 million more than Pegula. However, he has more money than brains. He’s already been blocked from buying/moving 4 hockey teams in struggling markets. I guess when you have billions of dollars, you can continue to waste money on an un-obtainable dream. Bettman will never let Balsillie own a team. ---
**Author:** ![JayS](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/jays/32/15375_2.png) [@JayS](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/JayS)\ **Post date:** [February 4, 2011, 10:50am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/so-long-tom-golisano-sabres-sale-rumors-heating-up/206676/77 "2011-02-04T10:50:53Z")
> [@Shockwave179](#): > > Heard this one the news this morning. He isn’t as bad as people say he is. > > **_Golisano revealed a surprise during his opening statement that a prospective buyer offered the Sabres $70 million more than Terry Pegula’s purchase price of $175 million and $14 million in liabilities. However, the team turned down the offer as the buyer demanded that the team would be allowed to move away from Buffalo._** Yeah, he can play that up like he’s some great savior of WNY hockey all he wants, but he knew the NHL wasn’t going to allow the sale of the team to a buyer considering moving it anyway. I’d be willing to bet the biggest factor in accepting Pegula’s offer was the fact that Pegula was a slam dunk for the NHL board of directors to accept. I’d also wager this “mystery offer” Tommy alluded to was from Jim Balsillie. He’s made offers on 3 NHL franchises, 2006, 2007 and 2009. All were shot down because he wanted to move the team to Hamilton, ON. ---
**Author:** ![ProgRocker](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/progrocker/32/5434_2.png) [@ProgRocker](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/ProgRocker)\ **Post date:** [February 4, 2011, 11:02am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/so-long-tom-golisano-sabres-sale-rumors-heating-up/206676/78 "2011-02-04T11:02:25Z")
> [@JayS](#): > > Yeah, he can play that up like he’s some great savior of WNY hockey all he wants, but he knew the NHL wasn’t going to allow the sale of the team to a buyer considering moving it anyway. I’d be willing to bet the biggest factor in accepting Pegula’s offer was the fact that Pegula was a slam dunk for the NHL board of directors to accept. > > I’d also wager this “mystery offer” Tommy alluded to was from Jim Balsillie. He’s made offers on 3 NHL franchises, 2006, 2007 and 2009. All were shot down because he wanted to move the team to Hamilton, ON. Move Phoenix…because really…who the fuck cares? Besides the Buffalo fans in Arizona of course 😛 ---
**Author:** ![itsJim](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/c67d28/32.png) [@itsJim](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/itsJim)\ **Post date:** [February 4, 2011, 11:05am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/so-long-tom-golisano-sabres-sale-rumors-heating-up/206676/79 "2011-02-04T11:05:00Z")
> [@bobbyg1243](#): > > How exactly does the team play better without him? What is your factual proof here? For starters, they are 9-5 since Roy has been injured and have scored 45 goals. The previous 14 games they were 7-7 and scored 36 goals. If Roy was so great don’t you think those stats would be reversed? If you watch the games and seriously think Roy is a good player well then… I don’t know what the hell you have been watching… > [@ProgRocker](#): > > How does that even make sense? He’s led the team in points for the past few years. Is usually one of the top goal scorers on the team. So basically since he’s doing what he’s paid to do we should dump him? Yes. ---
**Author:** ![Beck](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/beck/32/28683_2.png) [@Beck](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Beck)\ **Post date:** [February 4, 2011, 11:09am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/so-long-tom-golisano-sabres-sale-rumors-heating-up/206676/80 "2011-02-04T11:09:12Z")
> [@ProgRocker](#): > > Move Phoenix…because really…who the fuck cares? Besides the Buffalo fans in Arizona of course 😛 Phoenix will never move. The NHL will continue the run the team with it’s losses. Every year the team loses the reported $25 million, the team gets harder and harder to sell, not to mention MORE expensive…to cover the NHL’s nut. $175 million this year, it’s $200 million next year…etc. etc. The problem with Phoenix is two major things. A.) They are trying to wager public bonds and asking for Glendale to put up $100,000,000 and they’d get the gross share of parking ticket revenue. B.) Gary “Commissioner for life” Bettman, won’t allow a market like Phoenix to fail. All these southern markets are his brain-child and he’ll be damned if they fail. Gary Bettman, always comes out smelling like a rose…or atleast he tries to. [Previous page](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/so-long-tom-golisano-sabres-sale-rumors-heating-up/206676.md?page=3) [Next page](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/so-long-tom-golisano-sabres-sale-rumors-heating-up/206676.md?page=5)