# So long Volkswagen Phaeton.....

**URL:** https://forums.speedlife.net/t/so-long-volkswagen-phaeton/4616
**Category:** NYSpeed Automotive
**Created:** [November 15, 2005, 7:10pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/so-long-volkswagen-phaeton/4616 "2005-11-15T19:10:21Z")
**Posts on this page:** 20
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### Author: ![cooter](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/cooter/32/7199_2.png) [@cooter](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/cooter)
#### Post date: [November 15, 2005, 7:10pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/so-long-volkswagen-phaeton/4616/1 "2005-11-15T19:10:21Z")

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Sweet car but way over priced IMO

[http://buffalonews.com/editorial/20051115/6005097.asp](http://buffalonews.com/editorial/20051115/6005097.asp)

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### Author: ![91MR2](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/91mr2/32/7217_2.png) [@91MR2](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/91MR2)
#### Post date: [November 15, 2005, 7:37pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/so-long-volkswagen-phaeton/4616/2 "2005-11-15T19:37:19Z")

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No VW is worth that much anyways.

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### Author: ![mike125k](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/mike125k/32/7282_2.png) [@mike125k](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/mike125k)
#### Post date: [November 15, 2005, 7:42pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/so-long-volkswagen-phaeton/4616/3 "2005-11-15T19:42:52Z")

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That car was actually a very good deal for what you got…

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### Author: ![Xman](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/x/a3d4f5/32.png) [@Xman](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Xman)
#### Post date: [November 15, 2005, 7:54pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/so-long-volkswagen-phaeton/4616/4 "2005-11-15T19:54:31Z")

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If I had the money I would drop it on a Phaeton any day. One of my coworkers has one, and it’s worth every penny. Bentley quality at half the cost and four times the exclusivity. Screw anyone who determines the value of a car because of the badge on it.

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### Author: ![Dex](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/dex/32/7210_2.png) [@Dex](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Dex)
#### Post date: [November 16, 2005, 9:01am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/so-long-volkswagen-phaeton/4616/5 "2005-11-16T09:01:49Z")

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an A8 runs you a similar tag. you pay that much for a car, you want the name/exclusivity. not everyone thinks like that but most do. it’s definitely worth the cost, but i see why VW is doing this. the phaeton is a great example of the direction VAG wants to head, but it’s not practical for this market at this time with this economy.

i remeber standing in the autohaus showroom and looking at the phaeton when it first came out. a girl pointed at the phaeton and commented to her father about what a cool looking jetta that was.

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### Author: ![audios](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/c4cdca/32.png) [@audios](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/audios)
#### Post date: [November 16, 2005, 9:37am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/so-long-volkswagen-phaeton/4616/6 "2005-11-16T09:37:35Z")

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> [@Dex](#):
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> an A8 runs you a similar tag. you pay that much for a car, you want the name/exclusivity. not everyone thinks like that but most do…

exactly why i DONT like BMW’s and most of their drivers. the name shouldnt matter at all. the phaeton is hot and i would rock one anyday.

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### Author: ![JaysGreenLX](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/jaysgreenlx/32/7321_2.png) [@JaysGreenLX](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/JaysGreenLX)
#### Post date: [November 16, 2005, 9:41am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/so-long-volkswagen-phaeton/4616/7 "2005-11-16T09:41:25Z")

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That sucks. Great car. I don’t care what the badge says.

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### Author: ![Dex](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/dex/32/7210_2.png) [@Dex](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Dex)
#### Post date: [November 16, 2005, 9:47am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/so-long-volkswagen-phaeton/4616/8 "2005-11-16T09:47:15Z")

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> [@audios](#):
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> exactly why i DONT like BMW’s and most of their drivers. the name shouldnt matter at all. the phaeton is hot and i would rock one anyday.

i hear what you are saying. but they aren’t marketing to people who think like us. a good car is a good car, but VW doesn’t have the name to back up that price tag. they are “the people’s car”. not a company known for cars ~$80,0000.

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### Author: ![Zer0DazE](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/zer0daze/32/7624_2.png) [@Zer0DazE](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Zer0DazE)
#### Post date: [November 16, 2005, 9:51am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/so-long-volkswagen-phaeton/4616/9 "2005-11-16T09:51:38Z")

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> [@Dex](#):
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> i hear what you are saying. but they aren’t marketing to people who think like us. a good car is a good car, but VW doesn’t have the name to back up that price tag. they are “the people’s car”. not a company known for cars ~$80,0000.

they were the peoples car. they have priced themselves out of that title

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### Author: ![Dex](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/dex/32/7210_2.png) [@Dex](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Dex)
#### Post date: [November 16, 2005, 9:52am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/so-long-volkswagen-phaeton/4616/10 "2005-11-16T09:52:31Z")

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they’ve priced themselves out, but they still tend to have that image.

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### Author: ![Coldaccord](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/coldaccord/32/7272_2.png) [@Coldaccord](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Coldaccord)
#### Post date: [November 16, 2005, 10:44am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/so-long-volkswagen-phaeton/4616/11 "2005-11-16T10:44:27Z")

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> [@audios](#):
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> exactly why i DONT like BMW’s and most of their drivers. the name shouldnt matter at all. the phaeton is hot and i would rock one anyday.

I agree, many bmw drivers out there are pricks

but there are cool ones. people into the cars not the image. mechanical/performance side, not status symbol

i’m just saying there is a reason bimmers are held on a pedistal. I valet, I’ve driven most types of cars. It really is the best compromise between luxury and performance

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### Author: ![audios](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/c4cdca/32.png) [@audios](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/audios)
#### Post date: [November 16, 2005, 10:55am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/so-long-volkswagen-phaeton/4616/12 "2005-11-16T10:55:01Z")

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> [@Dex](#):
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> i hear what you are saying. but they aren’t marketing to people who think like us. a good car is a good car, but VW doesn’t have the name to back up that price tag. they are “the people’s car”. not a company known for cars ~$80,0000.

true, but at least VW gave it a shot. a long time ago VW used to be a respectd name (not here but across the atlantic river). i thought it wasa great car, even for the money, even if it was a VW.

and coldaccord i agree totally. BMW markets their car very well and holds that niche. and unfortunaltly i am friends with some bmw owners on this forum; i make fun of their physical attributes often, but they are still cool guys

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### Author: ![Dex](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/dex/32/7210_2.png) [@Dex](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Dex)
#### Post date: [November 16, 2005, 11:03am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/so-long-volkswagen-phaeton/4616/13 "2005-11-16T11:03:20Z")

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> [@audios](#):
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> true, but at least VW gave it a shot. a long time ago VW used to be a respectd name (not here but across the atlantic river). i thought it wasa great car, even for the money, even if it was a VW.

it is a great car especially for the money. that’s what VW is all about. great cars for the money. they are still a respected company, but just not so much in tuner circles.

the phaeton was not designed to replace the jetta. i remember reading an article a long time ago when the phaeton was first mentioned that it will not be a profitable venture for VW. think of it as more of an advertising campaign. it wasn’t supposed to be a huge seller. the whole idea behind it is that it’s a flagship car designed to to show the company direction, and the technology that VW has to offer.

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### Author: ![audios](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/c4cdca/32.png) [@audios](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/audios)
#### Post date: [November 16, 2005, 11:26am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/so-long-volkswagen-phaeton/4616/14 "2005-11-16T11:26:27Z")

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yup, and now the car might not depreciate as much as say the A8’s…which can be picked up dirt cheap even only a year old. they are like cadilacs. the only full size luxury vehicles to hold their value are bmw’s and mercedes, and even then the depreciation is scary

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### Author: ![Nikuk](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/nikuk/32/7254_2.png) [@Nikuk](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Nikuk)
#### Post date: [November 16, 2005, 11:28am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/so-long-volkswagen-phaeton/4616/15 "2005-11-16T11:28:57Z")

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no more drivers wanted?

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### Author: ![93dx\_hatch](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/9/90ced4/32.png) [@93dx\_hatch](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/93dx_hatch)
#### Post date: [November 16, 2005, 11:29am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/so-long-volkswagen-phaeton/4616/16 "2005-11-16T11:29:36Z")

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> [@Coldaccord](#):
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> I agree, many bmw drivers out there are pricks

Every bmw driver is a prick. 🙂

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### Author: ![DJ\_X-StatiK](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/dj_x-statik/32/7579_2.png) [@DJ\_X-StatiK](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/DJ_X-StatiK)
#### Post date: [November 16, 2005, 1:49pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/so-long-volkswagen-phaeton/4616/17 "2005-11-16T13:49:47Z")

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theyre nice…

i think ive only seen 1 or 2 around buffalo…

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### Author: ![RedGoober4Life](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/redgoober4life/32/7610_2.png) [@RedGoober4Life](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/RedGoober4Life)
#### Post date: [November 16, 2005, 2:36pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/so-long-volkswagen-phaeton/4616/18 "2005-11-16T14:36:23Z")

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They’re not classy at all. I would rather have one over the A8, which seems to have been inspired by a Dove commercial.

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### Author: ![Dex](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/dex/32/7210_2.png) [@Dex](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Dex)
#### Post date: [November 16, 2005, 3:04pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/so-long-volkswagen-phaeton/4616/19 "2005-11-16T15:04:16Z")

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> [@RedGoober4Life](#):
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> A8, which seems to have been inspired by a Dove commercial.

i’m curious as to what your logic is behind this statement.

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### Author: ![Rx3](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/rx3/32/7194_2.png) [@Rx3](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Rx3)
#### Post date: [November 16, 2005, 3:07pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/so-long-volkswagen-phaeton/4616/20 "2005-11-16T15:07:09Z")

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> [@RedGoober4Life](#):
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> I would rather have one over the A8, which seems to have been inspired by a Dove commercial.

:lol: I actually understand that statement. I agree 🙂

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