# So long Volkswagen Phaeton.....

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**Category:** NYSpeed Automotive\
**Created:** [November 15, 2005, 7:10pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/so-long-volkswagen-phaeton/4616 "2005-11-15T19:10:21Z")\
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**Author:** ![Dex](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/dex/32/7210_2.png) [@Dex](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Dex)\
**Post date:** [November 16, 2005, 3:09pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/so-long-volkswagen-phaeton/4616/21 "2005-11-16T15:09:07Z")

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thanks for explaining. :tup:

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**Author:** ![RedGoober4Life](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/redgoober4life/32/7610_2.png) [@RedGoober4Life](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/RedGoober4Life)\
**Post date:** [November 16, 2005, 4:38pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/so-long-volkswagen-phaeton/4616/22 "2005-11-16T16:38:07Z")

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![http://www.nilgirisonline.com/theme/a21.jpg](http://www.nilgirisonline.com/theme/a21.jpg) ![http://www.audi.co.jp/models/images/a8/color/Arctic-White.jpg](http://www.audi.co.jp/models/images/a8/color/Arctic-White.jpg)Chicken? Egg?

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**Author:** ![Dex](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/dex/32/7210_2.png) [@Dex](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Dex)\
**Post date:** [November 16, 2005, 4:43pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/so-long-volkswagen-phaeton/4616/23 "2005-11-16T16:43:08Z")

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i found the A8 “First” commercial. i still don’t get it. half the time your posts crack me up, but the other half, confuse the hell out of me.

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**Author:** ![neurokinetik](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/neurokinetik/32/7270_2.png) [@neurokinetik](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/neurokinetik)\
**Post date:** [November 16, 2005, 4:45pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/so-long-volkswagen-phaeton/4616/24 "2005-11-16T16:45:36Z")

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> [@Xman](#):
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> If I had the money I would drop it on a Phaeton any day. One of my coworkers has one, and it’s worth every penny. Bentley quality at half the cost and four times the exclusivity. Screw anyone who determines the value of a car because of the badge on it.

In before the electrical gremlins… 😛

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**Author:** ![rj-92](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/rj-92/32/7310_2.png) [@rj-92](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/rj-92)\
**Post date:** [November 16, 2005, 5:34pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/so-long-volkswagen-phaeton/4616/25 "2005-11-16T17:34:59Z")

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I’m not aoverly farmiliar with them personally. But all the write up I have read all had favorable reviews. Problem most of the dudes that can afford them associate VW with the beetle, not the new one either.

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**Author:** ![dozr](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/41988e/32.png) [@dozr](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/dozr)\
**Post date:** [November 17, 2005, 6:34am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/so-long-volkswagen-phaeton/4616/26 "2005-11-17T06:34:00Z")

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The Phaeton is an amazing car.

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**Author:** ![rskrause](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/rskrause/32/7367_2.png) [@rskrause](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/rskrause)\
**Post date:** [November 17, 2005, 6:47am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/so-long-volkswagen-phaeton/4616/27 "2005-11-17T06:47:54Z")

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If VW had wanted to move upscale, they should have done what Nissan and Toyota did - created a new brand. A major part of why people spend big money on a car is ego and status, to let people know that “mine is bigger than yours.” Driving up to the club in a VW just doesn’t cut it with these folks, no matter how good the car is. Funny that VW couldn’t figure this out in advance.

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**Author:** ![Dex](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/dex/32/7210_2.png) [@Dex](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Dex)\
**Post date:** [November 17, 2005, 6:51am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/so-long-volkswagen-phaeton/4616/28 "2005-11-17T06:51:21Z")

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> [@rskrause](#):
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> If VW had wanted to move upscale, they should have done what Nissan and Toyota did - created a new brand.

are you kidding me? who do you think makes audi, bentley, bugatti, and lamborghini?

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**Author:** ![POOPRA](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/poopra/32/7188_2.png) [@POOPRA](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/POOPRA)\
**Post date:** [November 17, 2005, 7:07am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/so-long-volkswagen-phaeton/4616/29 "2005-11-17T07:07:22Z")

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the Phaeton is basically a Audi A8 right?

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**Author:** ![Dex](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/dex/32/7210_2.png) [@Dex](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Dex)\
**Post date:** [November 17, 2005, 7:08am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/so-long-volkswagen-phaeton/4616/30 "2005-11-17T07:08:32Z")

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more or less.

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**Author:** ![rskrause](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/rskrause/32/7367_2.png) [@rskrause](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/rskrause)\
**Post date:** [November 17, 2005, 8:47am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/so-long-volkswagen-phaeton/4616/31 "2005-11-17T08:47:02Z")

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> [@Dex](#):
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> are you kidding me? who do you think makes audi, bentley, bugatti, and lamborghini?

That’s exactly my point. They should have known better than to try and sell it under the VW name.

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**Author:** ![Dex](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/dex/32/7210_2.png) [@Dex](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Dex)\
**Post date:** [November 17, 2005, 8:51am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/so-long-volkswagen-phaeton/4616/32 "2005-11-17T08:51:30Z")

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did you not read my earlier post in this thread? the phaeton wasn’t made to generate a profit off of sales. it was more like a well designed ad campaign. it was designed to showcase the direction of Volkswagen and the technologies it has to offer.

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**Author:** ![RedGoober4Life](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/redgoober4life/32/7610_2.png) [@RedGoober4Life](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/RedGoober4Life)\
**Post date:** [November 17, 2005, 1:29pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/so-long-volkswagen-phaeton/4616/33 "2005-11-17T13:29:51Z")

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> [@Dex](#):
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> more or less.

Less. The A8 is aluminum and the Phaeton is steel.

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**Author:** ![Dex](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/dex/32/7210_2.png) [@Dex](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Dex)\
**Post date:** [November 17, 2005, 1:32pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/so-long-volkswagen-phaeton/4616/34 "2005-11-17T13:32:25Z")

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> [@RedGoober4Life](#):
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> Less. The A8 is aluminum and the Phaeton is steel.

touché

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**Post date:** [February 15, 2012, 8:24am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/so-long-volkswagen-phaeton/4616/35 "2012-02-15T08:24:58Z")

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Bump for back from the dead:

> VW figures a new Phaeton would attract customers for whom the Jaguar XJ is too avant-garde, including American luxury consumers.

[http://www.motortrend.com/future/future\_vehicles/1204\_new\_volkswagen\_phaeton\_is\_a\_go/#ixzz1mT5fwakl](http://www.motortrend.com/future/future_vehicles/1204_new_volkswagen_phaeton_is_a_go/#ixzz1mT5fwakl)

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**Author:** ![King](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/king/32/7329_2.png) [@King](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/King)\
**Post date:** [February 15, 2012, 8:34am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/so-long-volkswagen-phaeton/4616/36 "2012-02-15T08:34:06Z")

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> [@93dx--hatch](#):
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> Every bmw driver is a prick. 🙂

true.

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> [@RedGoober4Life](#):
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> Less. The A8 is aluminum and the Phaeton is steel.

i thought the biggest difference was that the vw was offered in the 12cylinder(W12 or something??) the A8 was never offered in

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**Author:** ![BigRon](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/58956e/32.png) [@BigRon](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/BigRon)\
**Post date:** [February 15, 2012, 12:25pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/so-long-volkswagen-phaeton/4616/37 "2012-02-15T12:25:24Z")

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> [@King](#):
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> true.
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> i thought the biggest difference was that the vw was offered in the 12cylinder(W12 or something??) the A8 was never offered in

Audi had a W12 option.

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**Author:** ![somedude](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ecd19e/32.png) [@somedude](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/somedude)\
**Post date:** [February 15, 2012, 1:30pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/so-long-volkswagen-phaeton/4616/38 "2012-02-15T13:30:34Z")

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too bad we never got the V10 TDI in the phaeton in the states

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**Author:** ![Coldaccord](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/coldaccord/32/7272_2.png) [@Coldaccord](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Coldaccord)\
**Post date:** [February 15, 2012, 5:40pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/so-long-volkswagen-phaeton/4616/39 "2012-02-15T17:40:37Z")

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but we got it in the touaregggg. my landlord has one on cayenne wheels as a tow rig, shits hot

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**Author:** ![BadnewsMike](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/badnewsmike/32/7419_2.png) [@BadnewsMike](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/BadnewsMike)\
**Post date:** [February 15, 2012, 8:27pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/so-long-volkswagen-phaeton/4616/40 "2012-02-15T20:27:30Z")

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Somedude has one in a touareg as a tow rig shits hot

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