# So much for E85 being great for our farmers **URL:** \ **Category:** NYSpeed Automotive\ **Created:** [August 9, 2006, 5:50am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/so-much-for-e85-being-great-for-our-farmers/15713 "2006-08-09T05:50:20Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 8\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![JayS](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/jays/32/15375_2.png) [@JayS](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/JayS)\ **Post date:** [August 9, 2006, 5:50am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/so-much-for-e85-being-great-for-our-farmers/15713/1 "2006-08-09T05:50:20Z")
[http://money.cnn.com/2006/08/08/news/companies/pluggedin\_gunther.fortune/index.htm?cnn=yes](http://money.cnn.com/2006/08/08/news/companies/pluggedin_gunther.fortune/index.htm?cnn=yes) > Why Wal-Mart wants to sell ethanol > E85 is available at only a tiny fraction of gas stations. But Fortune’s Marc Gunther says the giant retailer is poised to change that. Once walmart gets involved the only people that will profit will be walmart. I’m sure they’ll find a way to force the farmers to outsource, or maybe just skip corn completely and go the imported sugarcane route. Remember the pickle article? [http://www.fastcompany.com/magazine/77/walmart.html](http://www.fastcompany.com/magazine/77/walmart.html) ---
**Author:** ![n20junkie](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/n20junkie/32/7396_2.png) [@n20junkie](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/n20junkie)\ **Post date:** [August 9, 2006, 7:03am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/so-much-for-e85-being-great-for-our-farmers/15713/2 "2006-08-09T07:03:51Z")
anything thats alcohol based is a fuckin waste of time. We need nuclear power, and hydrogen. Anything in between is just gonna waste money in setup, infastructure and time. ---
**Author:** ![RuBiCaNT](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/rubicant/32/7622_2.png) [@RuBiCaNT](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/RuBiCaNT)\ **Post date:** [August 9, 2006, 7:43am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/so-much-for-e85-being-great-for-our-farmers/15713/3 "2006-08-09T07:43:08Z")
Fusion based \> \* ---
**Author:** ![OfficerK](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/4da419/32.png) [@OfficerK](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/OfficerK)\ **Post date:** [August 9, 2006, 8:00am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/so-much-for-e85-being-great-for-our-farmers/15713/4 "2006-08-09T08:00:15Z")
but at the same rate you think that oil companies are going to sit around and let walmart just take a percentage of their profit? They will get in the market as well…and it will be cheaper to produce the produce (silly pun) domestically ---
**Author:** ![Nikuk](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/nikuk/32/7254_2.png) [@Nikuk](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Nikuk)\ **Post date:** [August 9, 2006, 8:16am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/so-much-for-e85-being-great-for-our-farmers/15713/5 "2006-08-09T08:16:21Z")
Big Oil is not a fan of R&D. Their couffers are STUFFED with cash reserves. Yet the average R&D budget (not to include drilling / prospecting) dwindles more year over year. Walmart, on the other hand, is less worried about stockholders and more focused on market strategy. See: Walmart pulls out of Germany & Korea. ---
**Author:** ![RobY](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/f1d935/32.png) [@RobY](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/RobY)\ **Post date:** [August 9, 2006, 9:31am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/so-much-for-e85-being-great-for-our-farmers/15713/6 "2006-08-09T09:31:52Z")
Wal mart will have to outsource Alchy. They cannot possibly buy enough land to meet the ethanol supply of this nation. I say its a good change, now with flex fuel vehicles coming out. Competition is good. Anything to prevent Exxon/Mobil from having the most profitable quater EVER while they bend us over the pump. Ethanol did not make any sense until now. It was for the most part more expensive than gasoline. Now that gas prices are artifically inflated it will spur people to develop ethanol. ---
**Author:** ![Phoenix\_305](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/977dab/32.png) [@Phoenix\_305](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Phoenix_305)\ **Post date:** [August 9, 2006, 9:56am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/so-much-for-e85-being-great-for-our-farmers/15713/7 "2006-08-09T09:56:08Z")
you can’t really complain about wallmart making big profits from taking a huge risk. dropping billions on devlopment. -somedude ---
**Author:** ![catalyst](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/catalyst/32/7279_2.png) [@catalyst](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/catalyst)\ **Post date:** [August 9, 2006, 2:00pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/so-much-for-e85-being-great-for-our-farmers/15713/8 "2006-08-09T14:00:38Z")
> [@RobY](#): > > Ethanol did not make any sense until now. It was for the most part more expensive than gasoline. Now that gas prices are artifically inflated it will spur people to develop ethanol. Ethanol prices are artificially deflated.