# So much for security of new "enhanced" license/passport card **URL:** \ **Category:** NYSpeed Off Topic\ **Created:** [April 27, 2009, 10:53am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/so-much-for-security-of-new-enhanced-license-passport-card/66852 "2009-04-27T10:53:22Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 2
**Author:** ![boardjnky4](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/96bed5/32.png) [@boardjnky4](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/boardjnky4)\ **Post date:** [April 27, 2009, 12:09pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/so-much-for-security-of-new-enhanced-license-passport-card/66852/21 "2009-04-27T12:09:55Z")
> [@Nikuk](#): > > max scan range is 150’ under certain circumstances… you’re more apt to be “tracked” via your cell phone considering there is a ginormous network of cell towers with which to do so, at ranges well over 150’. yeah, I never said it was a huge risk, but you could probably monitor someone’s behaviors. If you had a creepy neighbor, he could tell when you go past his house. That would tell him if you were home of not. Dumb stuff like that COULD happen(not that it is likely at all). I wouldn’t really be worried about it. Just mentioning it. ---
**Author:** ![Minglor](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/minglor/32/7373_2.png) [@Minglor](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Minglor)\ **Post date:** [April 27, 2009, 12:11pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/so-much-for-security-of-new-enhanced-license-passport-card/66852/22 "2009-04-27T12:11:52Z")
> [@boardjnky4](#): > > yeah, I never said it was a huge risk, but you could probably monitor someone’s behaviors. > > If you had a creepy neighbor, he could tell when you go past his house. That would tell him if you were home of not. Dumb stuff like that COULD happen(not that it is likely at all). > > I wouldn’t really be worried about it. Just mentioning it. or…he could look out his window… ---
**Author:** ![JayS](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/jays/32/15375_2.png) [@JayS](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/JayS)\ **Post date:** [April 27, 2009, 12:13pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/so-much-for-security-of-new-enhanced-license-passport-card/66852/23 "2009-04-27T12:13:49Z")
> [@Nikuk](#): > > max scan range is 150’ under certain circumstances… you’re more apt to be “tracked” via your cell phone considering there is a ginormous network of cell towers with which to do so, at ranges well over 150’. Yeah, I love the irony that the majority of people concerned about the privacy of an RFID chip will cruise around with their cell phone on all the time. To be clear, I in no way made this thread because I’m worried about MY security. I don’t give a shit if someone gets my unique ID because as an individual it’s worthless information to me. You can’t use it to get access to my bank, get a new ID in your own name or steal my identity. I made this thread because I found it amusing that this whole western hemisphere travel initiative that the government is spending tons of money on, and making citizens spend tons of money on for new ID’s, is using such easily compromised technology. Even more amusing that their “solution” is including a foil pouch with every ID. This tipping point of comedy was the fact that this foil pouch is not see through, for an ID that people constantly want to SEE to verify your identity or age. :picard: ---
**Author:** ![boardjnky4](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/96bed5/32.png) [@boardjnky4](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/boardjnky4)\ **Post date:** [April 27, 2009, 12:40pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/so-much-for-security-of-new-enhanced-license-passport-card/66852/24 "2009-04-27T12:40:10Z")
> [@Minglor](#): > > or…he could look out his window… haha yeah, if your crazy enough to attempt to use the chip in your neighbor’s enhanced license to monitor their behavior, then you’re probably crazy enough to just stare out the window all day. I’m not concerned at all, my whole point of stating the “risks” was that I was not concerned. As long as there is no potential for ID Theft, I’m fine with it. ---
**Author:** ![Minglor](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/minglor/32/7373_2.png) [@Minglor](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Minglor)\ **Post date:** [April 27, 2009, 1:22pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/so-much-for-security-of-new-enhanced-license-passport-card/66852/25 "2009-04-27T13:22:30Z")
> [@JayS](#): > > To be clear, I in no way made this thread because I’m worried about MY security. I don’t give a shit if someone gets my unique ID because as an individual it’s worthless information to me. You can’t use it to get access to my bank, get a new ID in your own name or steal my identity. which is why no real effort was put into said foil sleeve?? ---
**Author:** ![JayS](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/jays/32/15375_2.png) [@JayS](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/JayS)\ **Post date:** [April 27, 2009, 1:30pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/so-much-for-security-of-new-enhanced-license-passport-card/66852/26 "2009-04-27T13:30:28Z")
> [@Minglor](#): > > which is why no real effort was put into said foil sleeve?? But read the rest of what I said. While it’s no big deal to me personally, it’s a pretty big issue security wise for the government that these enhanced ID’s can be scanned and the chip cloned so easily. ---
**Author:** ![RedSoxDude19](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/919ad9/32.png) [@RedSoxDude19](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/RedSoxDude19)\ **Post date:** [April 28, 2009, 11:04am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/so-much-for-security-of-new-enhanced-license-passport-card/66852/27 "2009-04-28T11:04:02Z")
More or less the foil pouch serves the same purpose as the foil pouch that comes with EZ-Pass. If you have more than one ez-pass in your car at a time, both can be scanned if the other one isnt in those nifty pouches, actually happend to me before so I will use the foil pouch when my enhanced comes in. ---
**Author:** ![Blue\_Eyed\_Devil](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/blue_eyed_devil/32/7292_2.png) [@Blue\_Eyed\_Devil](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Blue_Eyed_Devil)\ **Post date:** [April 28, 2009, 11:38am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/so-much-for-security-of-new-enhanced-license-passport-card/66852/28 "2009-04-28T11:38:45Z")
Microwave for 10 seconds = security risk defeated.🙂 ---
**Author:** ![Gus](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/gus/32/5112_2.png) [@Gus](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Gus)\ **Post date:** [April 28, 2009, 12:04pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/so-much-for-security-of-new-enhanced-license-passport-card/66852/29 "2009-04-28T12:04:47Z")
sounds like a select few of you have seen eagle eye… 90% of this board is unemployed and poor, you think the government is going to really waste their time on you… people are so full of yourselves. :roflpicard: it’s just a drivers license ---
**Author:** ![Minglor](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/minglor/32/7373_2.png) [@Minglor](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Minglor)\ **Post date:** [April 28, 2009, 12:09pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/so-much-for-security-of-new-enhanced-license-passport-card/66852/30 "2009-04-28T12:09:30Z")
> [@Blue Eyed Devil](#): > > Microwave for 10 seconds = security risk defeated.🙂 orly. > [@JayS](#): > > But read the rest of what I said. While it’s no big deal to me personally, it’s a pretty big issue security wise for the government that these enhanced ID’s can be scanned and the chip cloned so easily. The information on the card is borderline useless. IMO. SO security of said information is pointless. ---
**Author:** ![Blue\_Eyed\_Devil](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/blue_eyed_devil/32/7292_2.png) [@Blue\_Eyed\_Devil](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Blue_Eyed_Devil)\ **Post date:** [April 28, 2009, 12:10pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/so-much-for-security-of-new-enhanced-license-passport-card/66852/31 "2009-04-28T12:10:40Z")
^Oh shit I forgot you work at the boarder. lol I was just kidding.:io: ---
**Author:** ![Avatar](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/avatar/32/5076_2.png) [@Avatar](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Avatar)\ **Post date:** [April 28, 2009, 12:14pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/so-much-for-security-of-new-enhanced-license-passport-card/66852/32 "2009-04-28T12:14:25Z")
Meh, those enhanced licenses are a waste of time and money. ---
**Author:** ![Blue\_Eyed\_Devil](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/blue_eyed_devil/32/7292_2.png) [@Blue\_Eyed\_Devil](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Blue_Eyed_Devil)\ **Post date:** [April 28, 2009, 12:18pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/so-much-for-security-of-new-enhanced-license-passport-card/66852/33 "2009-04-28T12:18:27Z")
The info that is on there now is useless but I am sure they will inform you when they start putting all of your important, private info on there. (wink, wink.) ---
**Author:** ![Nikuk](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/nikuk/32/7254_2.png) [@Nikuk](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Nikuk)\ **Post date:** [April 28, 2009, 1:39pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/so-much-for-security-of-new-enhanced-license-passport-card/66852/34 "2009-04-28T13:39:44Z")
> [@Blue Eyed Devil](#): > > Microwave for 10 seconds = security risk defeated.🙂 Good luck getting BACK INTO the USofA with a passport / EDL that mysteriously doesn’t scan. ---
**Author:** ![Blue\_Eyed\_Devil](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/blue_eyed_devil/32/7292_2.png) [@Blue\_Eyed\_Devil](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Blue_Eyed_Devil)\ **Post date:** [April 28, 2009, 8:03pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/so-much-for-security-of-new-enhanced-license-passport-card/66852/35 "2009-04-28T20:03:49Z")
Yeah, that would be great press for the system huh? I would be on the phone with Faux News instantly.😃 ---
**Author:** ![airhead](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/airhead/32/7471_2.png) [@airhead](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/airhead)\ **Post date:** [April 29, 2009, 8:54am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/so-much-for-security-of-new-enhanced-license-passport-card/66852/36 "2009-04-29T08:54:29Z")
Stupid question, but I’m too lazy to search and never did any research. Do you need the carry those all the time, or can you just use them for travel and carry your regular license the rest of the time? I’d consider one if that was the case. Otherwise, meh, I go to Canada maybe once a year, not worth the hassle. ---
**Author:** ![boardjnky4](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/96bed5/32.png) [@boardjnky4](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/boardjnky4)\ **Post date:** [April 29, 2009, 8:57am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/so-much-for-security-of-new-enhanced-license-passport-card/66852/37 "2009-04-29T08:57:45Z")
it replaces your standard license ---
**Author:** ![Blue\_Eyed\_Devil](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/blue_eyed_devil/32/7292_2.png) [@Blue\_Eyed\_Devil](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Blue_Eyed_Devil)\ **Post date:** [April 29, 2009, 9:06am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/so-much-for-security-of-new-enhanced-license-passport-card/66852/38 "2009-04-29T09:06:21Z")
This is the next step… ---
**Author:** ![JayS](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/jays/32/15375_2.png) [@JayS](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/JayS)\ **Post date:** [April 29, 2009, 10:09am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/so-much-for-security-of-new-enhanced-license-passport-card/66852/39 "2009-04-29T10:09:43Z")
> [@Blue Eyed Devil](#): > > This is the next step… > [http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yAvKDuYh\_wQ](http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yAvKDuYh_wQ) Do you own a cell phone? ---
**Author:** ![Blue\_Eyed\_Devil](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/blue_eyed_devil/32/7292_2.png) [@Blue\_Eyed\_Devil](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Blue_Eyed_Devil)\ **Post date:** [April 29, 2009, 10:18am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/so-much-for-security-of-new-enhanced-license-passport-card/66852/40 "2009-04-29T10:18:02Z")
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