# so whats the acceptable **URL:** \ **Category:** PittSpeed Off Topic\ **Created:** [April 30, 2004, 9:40am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/so-whats-the-acceptable/166092 "2004-04-30T09:40:54Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 16\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![HaNnIBaL64](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/hannibal64/32/5954_2.png) [@HaNnIBaL64](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/HaNnIBaL64)\ **Post date:** [April 30, 2004, 9:40am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/so-whats-the-acceptable/166092/1 "2004-04-30T09:40:54Z")
% for drivetrain loss? i thought it was like 15-20 % but cant rememebr ---
**Author:** ![Shaggy](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/shaggy/32/5945_2.png) [@Shaggy](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Shaggy)\ **Post date:** [April 30, 2004, 9:41am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/so-whats-the-acceptable/166092/2 "2004-04-30T09:41:52Z")
search Google :rolleyes: ---
**Author:** ![91GSteggy](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/9/ac91a4/32.png) [@91GSteggy](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/91GSteggy)\ **Post date:** [April 30, 2004, 9:42am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/so-whats-the-acceptable/166092/3 "2004-04-30T09:42:15Z")
100%:dunno: ---
**Author:** ![Pewter](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/pewter/32/5936_2.png) [@Pewter](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Pewter)\ **Post date:** [April 30, 2004, 9:42am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/so-whats-the-acceptable/166092/4 "2004-04-30T09:42:44Z")
25 to 30 on rwd ---
**Author:** ![Shaggy](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/shaggy/32/5945_2.png) [@Shaggy](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Shaggy)\ **Post date:** [April 30, 2004, 9:43am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/so-whats-the-acceptable/166092/5 "2004-04-30T09:43:12Z")
you answered your own ? so now time to whore it up 😃 ---
**Author:** ![Quik](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/quik/32/5979_2.png) [@Quik](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Quik)\ **Post date:** [April 30, 2004, 9:44am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/so-whats-the-acceptable/166092/6 "2004-04-30T09:44:01Z")
a manual is less then a auto ---
**Author:** ![Pewter](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/pewter/32/5936_2.png) [@Pewter](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Pewter)\ **Post date:** [April 30, 2004, 9:44am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/so-whats-the-acceptable/166092/7 "2004-04-30T09:44:29Z")
> _Originally posted by 91GSteggy_ > **100%:dunno:** > YES!!!on a hondo ---
**Author:** ![fshowcars](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/fshowcars/32/5937_2.png) [@fshowcars](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/fshowcars)\ **Post date:** [April 30, 2004, 9:49am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/so-whats-the-acceptable/166092/8 "2004-04-30T09:49:02Z")
13% - 15% ---
**Author:** ![HaNnIBaL64](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/hannibal64/32/5954_2.png) [@HaNnIBaL64](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/HaNnIBaL64)\ **Post date:** [April 30, 2004, 9:49am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/so-whats-the-acceptable/166092/9 "2004-04-30T09:49:41Z")
that means if i take 25% hp loss thropugh the drive train stock my car would only dyno at 228.5 rwhp :wtf: ---
**Author:** ![Pewter](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/pewter/32/5936_2.png) [@Pewter](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Pewter)\ **Post date:** [April 30, 2004, 9:52am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/so-whats-the-acceptable/166092/10 "2004-04-30T09:52:04Z")
> _Originally posted by HaNnIBaL64_ > **that means if i take 25% hp loss thropugh the drive train stock my car would only dyno at 228.5 rwhp :wtf:** > correct ---
**Author:** ![HaNnIBaL64](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/hannibal64/32/5954_2.png) [@HaNnIBaL64](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/HaNnIBaL64)\ **Post date:** [April 30, 2004, 9:52am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/so-whats-the-acceptable/166092/11 "2004-04-30T09:52:45Z")
> _Originally posted by Pewterss_ > **correct** ill stick with 15% cause it makes me all happy 😃 ---
**Author:** ![77rednecktruck](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/77rednecktruck/32/5966_2.png) [@77rednecktruck](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/77rednecktruck)\ **Post date:** [April 30, 2004, 11:01am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/so-whats-the-acceptable/166092/12 "2004-04-30T11:01:11Z")
> _Originally posted by HaNnIBaL64_ > **ill stick with 15% cause it makes me all happy 😃** :ricer: 😃 ---
**Author:** ![Turbocharged](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/f08c70/32.png) [@Turbocharged](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Turbocharged)\ **Post date:** [April 30, 2004, 12:22pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/so-whats-the-acceptable/166092/13 "2004-04-30T12:22:31Z")
at least you don’t have a 1.3 that puts out 66hp imagine the loss…especially in 4wd ---
**Author:** ![Blue](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/3bc359/32.png) [@Blue](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Blue)\ **Post date:** [April 30, 2004, 12:55pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/so-whats-the-acceptable/166092/14 "2004-04-30T12:55:37Z")
in most manual rwd cars shown on a dyno jet, you’ll see a 15-18% loss now… mods like aluminum and carbon driveshafts. lightened flywheels can reduce this drivetrain loss %. ---
**Author:** ![Shaggy](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/shaggy/32/5945_2.png) [@Shaggy](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Shaggy)\ **Post date:** [April 30, 2004, 12:57pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/so-whats-the-acceptable/166092/15 "2004-04-30T12:57:00Z")
> _Originally posted by Turbocharged_ > **at least you don’t have a 1.3 that puts out 66hp imagine the loss…especially in 4wd** > :bigthumb: :blue: ---
**Author:** ![Jeff95TA](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/jeff95ta/32/5935_2.png) [@Jeff95TA](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Jeff95TA)\ **Post date:** [April 30, 2004, 1:54pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/so-whats-the-acceptable/166092/16 "2004-04-30T13:54:41Z")
> _Originally posted by Blue_ > **in most manual rwd cars shown on a dyno jet, you’ll see a 15-18% loss** > Those are the numbers I’ve heard too. Higher end for auto. I think as HP gets higher and higher the percentage rule of thumb starts to be off and gets closer to a fixed value. I have no links to back this up though.