# So where is all the CF going? **URL:** \ **Category:** NYSpeed Off Topic\ **Created:** [June 13, 2006, 7:42pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/so-where-is-all-the-cf-going/13277 "2006-06-13T19:42:51Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 17\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![Locutus](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/locutus/32/7574_2.png) [@Locutus](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Locutus)\ **Post date:** [June 13, 2006, 7:42pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/so-where-is-all-the-cf-going/13277/1 "2006-06-13T19:42:51Z")
to build this thing… and its sweet Link: [http://www.gizmag.com/go/5721/](http://www.gizmag.com/go/5721/) Pic: ![http://www.fas.org/man/dod-101/sys/ac/f-22-19990601-f-0000l-001.jpg](http://www.fas.org/man/dod-101/sys/ac/f-22-19990601-f-0000l-001.jpg) Article: **F-22 scores direct hit in supersonic, high-altitude JDAM drop** ([link to this article](http://www.gizmag.com/linktous/5721/)) June 13, 2006 The U.S. Air Force F-22 Combined Test Force team of Boeing, Lockheed Martin and Air Force pilots continued to successfully push the F-22 Raptor’s capability last week when it released a Joint Direct Attack Munition (JDAM) munition at supersonic speed, high altitude and standoff range. Flying at an altitude of 50,000 feet and a speed of Mach 1.5, the F-22 released a GPS-aided, 1,000-pound JDAM from a range of 24 nautical miles, destroying a ground target in the aircraft’s fastest and highest JDAM delivery to date. The ability to release a munition at supersonic speeds and standoff ranges greatly enhances the aircrew’s survivability against heavily defended targets. ---
**Author:** ![87FOXGT](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/8/ecd19e/32.png) [@87FOXGT](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/87FOXGT)\ **Post date:** [June 13, 2006, 10:35pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/so-where-is-all-the-cf-going/13277/2 "2006-06-13T22:35:08Z")
that is badass. ---
**Author:** ![Bacon](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/bacon/32/7230_2.png) [@Bacon](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Bacon)\ **Post date:** [June 13, 2006, 10:35pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/so-where-is-all-the-cf-going/13277/3 "2006-06-13T22:35:55Z")
Damn that is scary. :tup: ---
**Author:** ![gsx](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/gsx/32/7277_2.png) [@gsx](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/gsx)\ **Post date:** [June 13, 2006, 10:40pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/so-where-is-all-the-cf-going/13277/4 "2006-06-13T22:40:40Z")
f-22 is old news…but its capabilities are getting better and better…just wait till the yf-23… ---
**Author:** ![Lopros86](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/lopros86/32/7301_2.png) [@Lopros86](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Lopros86)\ **Post date:** [June 13, 2006, 11:01pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/so-where-is-all-the-cf-going/13277/5 "2006-06-13T23:01:26Z")
someone told me it was a huge air bus that was taking all US cf ---
**Author:** ![Carnut](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/carnut/32/7590_2.png) [@Carnut](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Carnut)\ **Post date:** [June 14, 2006, 6:29am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/so-where-is-all-the-cf-going/13277/6 "2006-06-14T06:29:23Z")
the government doesnt procure ALL the carbon fiber to help the masses 😛 F22 ftw ---
**Author:** ![Zong](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/zong/32/7580_2.png) [@Zong](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Zong)\ **Post date:** [June 14, 2006, 7:31am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/so-where-is-all-the-cf-going/13277/7 "2006-06-14T07:31:28Z")
So what? I bet superman could do that too. ---
**Author:** ![STEALTTH](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/stealtth/32/7582_2.png) [@STEALTTH](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/STEALTTH)\ **Post date:** [June 14, 2006, 7:41am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/so-where-is-all-the-cf-going/13277/8 "2006-06-14T07:41:31Z")
I bet you he could ---
**Author:** ![97FormulaWS-6](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/97formulaws-6/32/7384_2.png) [@97FormulaWS-6](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/97FormulaWS-6)\ **Post date:** [June 14, 2006, 7:46am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/so-where-is-all-the-cf-going/13277/9 "2006-06-14T07:46:48Z")
> [@gsx](#): > > f-22 is old news…but its capabilities are getting better and better…just wait till the yf-23… HUH??? WTF r u talking about? ---
**Author:** ![duck](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/duck/32/7183_2.png) [@duck](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/duck)\ **Post date:** [June 14, 2006, 8:03am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/so-where-is-all-the-cf-going/13277/10 "2006-06-14T08:03:19Z")
that’s JDAM yo ---
**Author:** ![STEALTTH](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/stealtth/32/7582_2.png) [@STEALTTH](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/STEALTTH)\ **Post date:** [June 14, 2006, 8:19am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/so-where-is-all-the-cf-going/13277/11 "2006-06-14T08:19:07Z")
> [@97FormulaWS-6](#): > > HUH??? WTF r u talking about? I think hes just saying that the F-22 has been around for a while and that as amazing as the plane is, the technology has been getting better over the years with the f-22 model. the yF-23 is a new prototype that will be built [http://www.fas.org/man/dod-101/sys/ac/f-23.htm](http://www.fas.org/man/dod-101/sys/ac/f-23.htm) [http://www.globalsecurity.org/military/systems/aircraft/f-23.htm](http://www.globalsecurity.org/military/systems/aircraft/f-23.htm) ![http://www.fas.org/man/dod-101/sys/ac/yf23roll.jpg](https://canada1.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/uploads/speedlife/original/3X/e/6/e6ca14c847a02a2526b14b5b3fe8d9366e1b64fa.jpeg) ---
**Author:** ![TrueBlue](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/trueblue/32/7245_2.png) [@TrueBlue](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/TrueBlue)\ **Post date:** [June 14, 2006, 8:29am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/so-where-is-all-the-cf-going/13277/12 "2006-06-14T08:29:21Z")
negative… the YF-23 was the competitor to the Raptor in the USAF’s advanced fighter competition. it lost and will not be built. I’m pretty sure what he meant was this, the F-35 JSF: > greatly enhances the aircrew’s survivability against heavily defended targets. :tup: :tup: :tup: ---
**Author:** ![97FormulaWS-6](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/97formulaws-6/32/7384_2.png) [@97FormulaWS-6](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/97FormulaWS-6)\ **Post date:** [June 14, 2006, 8:57am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/so-where-is-all-the-cf-going/13277/13 "2006-06-14T08:57:49Z")
> [@TrueBlue](#): > > negative… the YF-23 was the competitor to the Raptor in the USAF’s advanced fighter competition. it lost and will not be built. > > I’m pretty sure what he meant was this, the F-35 JSF: > > :tup: :tup: :tup: Exactly, the 2 surviving YF-23’s are non-flying; one is at the end of the runway at Edwards, and the other I believe is at the smithsonian in DC. The F-35 is the new fighter, but is no where’s near close to the performance of the F-22 Raptor. As of right now the only aircraft close to the F-22 in performance is the Russian Su-37 I believe (The only other twin engine aircraft in production with thrust vectoring I believe). ---
**Author:** ![STEALTTH](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/stealtth/32/7582_2.png) [@STEALTTH](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/STEALTTH)\ **Post date:** [June 14, 2006, 9:21am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/so-where-is-all-the-cf-going/13277/14 "2006-06-14T09:21:35Z")
ahh very cool damn you Justin :lol: ---
**Author:** ![TrueBlue](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/trueblue/32/7245_2.png) [@TrueBlue](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/TrueBlue)\ **Post date:** [June 14, 2006, 11:06am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/so-where-is-all-the-cf-going/13277/15 "2006-06-14T11:06:28Z")
> [@97FormulaWS-6](#): > > Exactly, the 2 surviving YF-23’s are non-flying; one is at the end of the runway at Edwards, and the other I believe is at the smithsonian in DC. > > The F-35 is the new fighter, but is no where’s near close to the performance of the F-22 Raptor. As of right now the only aircraft close to the F-22 in performance is the Russian Su-37 I believe (The only other twin engine aircraft in production with thrust vectoring I believe). on point. you’ve got it right, good sir :tup: the F-35 will replace the F-16, (if you were among the eight people that saw Iron Eagle you know what this is) F/A-18, and AV-8B Harrier “jumpjet” the F/A-22 replaces the F-15 and is balls-out. :edit: bah, someone with the username of “STEALTTH” should know this shit 😃 ---
**Author:** ![BluBalls](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/bluballs/32/7212_2.png) [@BluBalls](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/BluBalls)\ **Post date:** [June 14, 2006, 12:07pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/so-where-is-all-the-cf-going/13277/16 "2006-06-14T12:07:13Z")
> [@Locutus](#): > > … it doesn’t say anything about it being made of cf though. ---
**Author:** ![97FormulaWS-6](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/97formulaws-6/32/7384_2.png) [@97FormulaWS-6](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/97FormulaWS-6)\ **Post date:** [June 14, 2006, 12:15pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/so-where-is-all-the-cf-going/13277/17 "2006-06-14T12:15:25Z")
Most of the skin, as well as the engine ducting and some structural members are most defenetly CF. Infact I was at the F-22 Center-fuselage; F-16, and new F-35 final production assembly line last week; down in Ft. Worth Texas at the LM Aero Plant. I actually got up-close and got to touch and look at my parts on the first SDD F-35 aircraft which is in the final stages of preperation for first flight later this year. The Autoclaves that they use to build the CF panels for the F-22 and F-35 are ENORMOUS; like the size of my 2-story, 4-bedroom house. It’s a pretty unbelieveable sight to see full size vehicles pulling in and out of an autoclave.