# SOHC KA-T, 15 PSI \*video\* **URL:** \ **Category:** SON240sx Automotive\ **Created:** [June 7, 2005, 3:57pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/sohc-ka-t-15-psi-video/86253 "2005-06-07T15:57:37Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 3
**Author:** ![Hector](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/43a26b/32.png) [@Hector](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Hector)\ **Post date:** [June 10, 2005, 8:39am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/sohc-ka-t-15-psi-video/86253/41 "2005-06-10T08:39:25Z")
> [@Toronto240sx](#): > > [quote=Hector]john u suck, ur sr sucks , my KA-t WILL OWN U and yur mom, i race ya for a peice of cake Easy there Fat kid, do you even own a 240sx because we still haven’t seen it. Peice of cake you say huh?..deal! :lol:[/quote] well if ur lazy ass would have come to the kitchener meet u could have come to my house to witness the greatness oh and fro the record my ka-t has been done for under 2000, all new parts too, that includes turbo, manifold, ic, ic piping,SS 3 inch exhaust and down pipe, hks s-afr, apexi sitc, rebic IV, hks turbo timer, 5th injector(770cc), 370cc primarys, and profec B boost controller, and bov. ---
**Author:** ![TorontoGT-R33](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/torontogt-r33/32/5500_2.png) [@TorontoGT-R33](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/TorontoGT-R33)\ **Post date:** [June 10, 2005, 8:51am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/sohc-ka-t-15-psi-video/86253/42 "2005-06-10T08:51:50Z")
I would of came to the Kitchener meet but my lazy ass had to work. KA-t under $2000.00 :shock: …Who did all the work for you? ---
**Author:** ![Solarian](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/solarian/32/5514_2.png) [@Solarian](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Solarian)\ **Post date:** [June 10, 2005, 10:12am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/sohc-ka-t-15-psi-video/86253/43 "2005-06-10T10:12:32Z")
Well, lets see you put some prices to items and show us how it’s under 2000 turbo= manifold= ic= ic piping= SS 3 inch exhaust= down pipe= hks s-afr= apexi sitc= rebic IV= hks turbo timer= 5th injector(770cc)= 370cc primarys= profec B boost controller= bov= ---
**Author:** ![Solarian](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/solarian/32/5514_2.png) [@Solarian](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Solarian)\ **Post date:** [June 10, 2005, 10:13am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/sohc-ka-t-15-psi-video/86253/44 "2005-06-10T10:13:37Z")
> [@MrSkinny](#): > > [quote=Solarian]blah blah blah. I do think KA-T is a better performance option, blah. same $ spent, KA on top.[/quote] Who are you even arguing with? I never stated otherwise. ---
**Author:** ![TorontoGT-R33](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/torontogt-r33/32/5500_2.png) [@TorontoGT-R33](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/TorontoGT-R33)\ **Post date:** [June 10, 2005, 10:22am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/sohc-ka-t-15-psi-video/86253/45 "2005-06-10T10:22:10Z")
Oh oh :shock: …my spidysences are going crazy… I feel LOCKENSTEIN coming soon… ---
**Author:** ![MrSkinny](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/59ef9b/32.png) [@MrSkinny](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/MrSkinny)\ **Post date:** [June 10, 2005, 11:00am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/sohc-ka-t-15-psi-video/86253/46 "2005-06-10T11:00:10Z")
> [@Solarian](#): > > [quote=MrSkinny][quote=Solarian]blah blah blah. I do think KA-T is a better performance option, blah. same $ spent, KA on top.[/quote] Who are you even arguing with? I never stated otherwise.[/quote] not an arguement. just stated a point. ---
**Author:** ![syd\_mysta](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/syd_mysta/32/5488_2.png) [@syd\_mysta](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/syd_mysta)\ **Post date:** [June 10, 2005, 11:29am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/sohc-ka-t-15-psi-video/86253/47 "2005-06-10T11:29:55Z")
> [@Toronto240sx](#): > > [quote=Hector]john u suck, ur sr sucks , my KA-t WILL OWN U and yur mom, i race ya for a peice of cake Easy there Fat kid, do you even own a 240sx because we still haven’t seen it. Peice of cake you say huh?..deal! :lol:[/quote] He is only fat because of all the birthday cake you guys feed him. lol. So Hector don’t race him at a meet cause that could be too much cake haha. why don’t you guys just sumo wrestle haha. ---
**Author:** ![TorontoGT-R33](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/torontogt-r33/32/5500_2.png) [@TorontoGT-R33](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/TorontoGT-R33)\ **Post date:** [June 10, 2005, 11:45am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/sohc-ka-t-15-psi-video/86253/48 "2005-06-10T11:45:30Z")
> [@syd\_mysta](#): > > [quote=Toronto240sx][quote=Hector]john u suck, ur sr sucks , my KA-t WILL OWN U and yur mom, i race ya for a peice of cake Easy there Fat kid, do you even own a 240sx because we still haven’t seen it. Peice of cake you say huh?..deal! :lol:[/quote] He is only fat because of all the birthday cake you guys feed him. lol. So Hector don’t race him at a meet cause that could be too much cake haha. why don’t you guys just sumo wrestle haha.[/quote] Sumo sounds good it will be a triple threat match me v.s. Hector v.s. Adam Jantos… since he said he would like to line it up too :lol: . …Better yet since you brought it up, we will make it a tag team match you and Jantos v.s. me and Hector…and bring lot’s of chocolate cake. :lol: ---
**Author:** ![s14\_2Nv](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/s14_2nv/32/5476_2.png) [@s14\_2Nv](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/s14_2Nv)\ **Post date:** [June 10, 2005, 2:33pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/sohc-ka-t-15-psi-video/86253/49 "2005-06-10T14:33:01Z")
> [@Solarian](#): > > I never said SR will beat it. Infact, I’m pretty sure KA will come out on top with the same amount of money put in. What I did say, is that the 7K 260whp vs 7k 400whp scenario is VERY untrue. > > SR - 2500 for the engine > KA - 300 for the engine, but you still need to turbocharge it somehow. A stage1, 7psi kit goes for about 2600USD+shipping+customs, to be generous, lets take that to be only 3000CAD (which it’ll surely exceed). At this point, the KA WILL lay down more power than the SR. I’ve seen dynos for 230whp at this point, where as SR will be pushin like 170whp. > > But when you get into the $7K range, you can replace that old worn out turbine on your SR with a nice new one, you’ll be running bigger injectors, a SAFC, a beefy intercooler, etc… Doing internals on the KA is still gonna cost money, and you’re gonna need the same upgrades I listed on the SR (except for turbine, KA guy got a nice turbine to begin with) > My point is, they’ll lay down almost the same power, but the **KA will have quicker spool, a better curve, be more responsive, etc…** The only point I’m trying to make is that one should argue FAIRLY as opposed to pissing all over the opponent. I do think KA-T is a better performance option, but the SR is by no means shit. There is a lot of miss-information in that post. For example, why will the ka spool faster? I would think it would be the opposite… Jantos post about 7k into each one is not with the ka-t or sr being home built. ---
**Author:** ![s14\_2Nv](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/s14_2nv/32/5476_2.png) [@s14\_2Nv](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/s14_2Nv)\ **Post date:** [June 10, 2005, 2:35pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/sohc-ka-t-15-psi-video/86253/50 "2005-06-10T14:35:04Z")
> [@Hector](#): > > john u suck, ur sr sucks , my KA-t WILL OWN U and yur mom, i race ya for a peice of cake Notice how nobody with an SR actually in their car is defending it? ka-t boys are representing though. Bring it John. You can race my slow/cheap/worndown ka. ---
**Author:** ![Solarian](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/solarian/32/5514_2.png) [@Solarian](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Solarian)\ **Post date:** [June 10, 2005, 3:07pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/sohc-ka-t-15-psi-video/86253/51 "2005-06-10T15:07:43Z")
> [@s14\_2Nv](#): > > There is a lot of miss-information in that post. For example, why will the ka spool faster? I would think it would be the opposite… > > Jantos post about 7k into each one is not with the ka-t or sr being home built. The KA will spool faster b/c of a displacement advantage, assuming identical turbines. If the KA was running a significantly bigger turbo and SR was on the stock T25, it would be the opposite, just as you said. ---
**Author:** ![Hector](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/43a26b/32.png) [@Hector](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Hector)\ **Post date:** [June 10, 2005, 4:11pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/sohc-ka-t-15-psi-video/86253/52 "2005-06-10T16:11:49Z")
well, lets see how it’s under 2000 turbo=$500 manifold=$250 ic=$250 ic piping=$20 bucks SS 3 inch exhaust=part of the 20 mentioned above down pipe=part of 20 as well hks s-afr=$150 apexi sitc=$150 rebic IV=free hks turbo timer=free 5th injector(770cc)=free 370cc primarys=$50 balenced and cleaned profec B boost controller=free bov=freee wait lets add in oil, coolant, fuel filter , fuel pump, misc lines and clamps, couplers, and paint, and beer /food for the helpers ya well guess what i guess it pays to be in the business and have people bug u all day to do work for them, see when u got skillz( people and mechanical) u get shit, when ur tha man u get shit if u want the list of stuff done to my car and how much i paid for parts ill give u that as well then cuz youll realize how much u suck at life ---
**Author:** ![Hector](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/43a26b/32.png) [@Hector](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Hector)\ **Post date:** [June 10, 2005, 4:25pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/sohc-ka-t-15-psi-video/86253/53 "2005-06-10T16:25:56Z")
> [@Solarian](#): > > [quote=s14\_2Nv]There is a lot of miss-information in that post. For example, why will the ka spool faster? I would think it would be the opposite… > > Jantos post about 7k into each one is not with the ka-t or sr being home built. The KA will spool faster b/c of a displacement advantage, assuming identical turbines. If the KA was running a significantly bigger turbo and SR was on the stock T25, it would be the opposite, just as you said.[/quote] can u be 100% sure when u say that ? have u flow tested the heads ? have u checked how well the ka will flow as compared to the sr ? how do u know that just soley based on the fact that the ka is bigger that it will spool faster? have u put into account intercooler sizing, piping lenth and diamiter? manifold design ?have u maybe read the compressor maps for ta stock t25 and noticed that it does not flow enough lbs/hr to support a ka at high rpm? what about base timing advance ? u know those all come into account as well right ? did u even check compression raito’s? what would be your opinion of significantly bigger turbo ?pt 72? ---
**Author:** ![s14\_2Nv](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/s14_2nv/32/5476_2.png) [@s14\_2Nv](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/s14_2Nv)\ **Post date:** [June 10, 2005, 6:32pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/sohc-ka-t-15-psi-video/86253/54 "2005-06-10T18:32:23Z")
> [@Solarian](#): > > [quote=s14\_2Nv]There is a lot of miss-information in that post. For example, why will the ka spool faster? I would think it would be the opposite… > > Jantos post about 7k into each one is not with the ka-t or sr being home built. The KA will spool faster b/c of a displacement advantage, assuming identical turbines. If the KA was running a significantly bigger turbo and SR was on the stock T25, it would be the opposite, just as you said.[/quote] I’ll wait for you to respond to Hector before I continue to argue… how many SRs do you know running non t2 series turbos? Not many. I on the other hand know almost no ka-ts running any turbos smaller than a t3 series turbo. :gtfo: ---
**Author:** ![Hector](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/43a26b/32.png) [@Hector](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Hector)\ **Post date:** [June 11, 2005, 12:25am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/sohc-ka-t-15-psi-video/86253/55 "2005-06-11T00:25:21Z")
the reply will take a long time because his slow ass sr takes too long to get him home ---
**Author:** ![Solarian](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/solarian/32/5514_2.png) [@Solarian](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Solarian)\ **Post date:** [June 11, 2005, 7:38am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/sohc-ka-t-15-psi-video/86253/56 "2005-06-11T07:38:40Z")
I have a N/A KA with a bad clutch, SRs can’t compete with me, I’m the KING of wood 😃 can u be 100% sure when u say that ? **yup** have u flow tested the heads ? **nope** have u checked how well the ka will flow as compared to the sr ? **nope** how do u know that just soley based on the fact that the ka is bigger that it will spool faster? **Chemistry my good man, chemistry!** have u put into account intercooler sizing, piping lenth and diamiter? **Nope, I said that all things being equal, the KA will spool better, if you do start taking these things into account, you’re dealing with a SPECIFIC KA-T vs. a SPECIFIC SR.** manifold design ? **See previous** have u maybe read the compressor maps for ta stock t25 and noticed that it does not flow enough lbs/hr to support a ka at high rpm? **Nope.** what about base timing advance ? **Nuh-uh.** u know those all come into account as well right ? **Yes, when dealing specifics, not in general terms** did u even check compression raito’s? **Ehh… I suppose you have a point here, but the compression ratios aren’t so different as to produce a LARGE heat difference and give an edge to the smaller motor, the volume flow of the KA will still beat it out.** what would be your opinion of significantly bigger turbo ?pt 72? **One that isn’t almost the same… I dunno? I don’t study turbines in detail** Aaaanyway… Bigger displacement, more air, therefore more fuel, this means more exhaust gas. This means if you stuck something (a turbine) on the back end, it would spin up earlier. If you were using different turbines, had different pipes in between, all these things can change, but if you were using the SAME things, KA spool \> SR spool. Edit: And props on your KA-T setup, but you just proved my point. That was 100% hookups, almost none of those items cost that little in reality. What if I had a cousin that gave me an SR clip, a HKS GT-RS, a Blitz LM fmic, PowerFC, 550cc injectors, etc… for $20 bucks? Don’t I then have an SR putting out 300whp for $20? ---
**Author:** ![TorontoGT-R33](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/torontogt-r33/32/5500_2.png) [@TorontoGT-R33](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/TorontoGT-R33)\ **Post date:** [June 11, 2005, 7:53am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/sohc-ka-t-15-psi-video/86253/57 "2005-06-11T07:53:05Z")
> [@AnDrEw](#): > > :lol: > > It was 1500 Cause Jordan bassically made all the stuff he needed himself. Thats why it was cheap. Everyone thinks KA-T is cheap, yes it is if you are able to Fab everything yourself. > > Andrew. > [@Hector](#): > > well, lets see how it’s under 2000 > > turbo=$500 > manifold=$250 > ic=$250 > ic piping=$20 bucks > SS 3 inch exhaust=part of the 20 mentioned above > down pipe=part of 20 as well > hks s-afr=$150 > apexi sitc=$150 > rebic IV=free > hks turbo timer=free > 5th injector(770cc)=free > 370cc primarys=$50 balenced and cleaned > profec B boost controller=free > bov=freee > wait lets add in oil, coolant, fuel filter , fuel pump, misc lines and clamps, couplers, and paint, and beer /food for the helpers > ya well guess what i guess it pays to be in the business and have people bug u all day to do work for them, > > see when u got skillz( people and mechanical) u get shit, when ur tha man u get shit > > if u want the list of stuff done to my car and how much i paid for parts > ill give u that as well then cuz youll realize how much u suck at life Andrews point get’s proven right here. It is cheap to do a KA-t if you either fab everything your self or if you get a bunch of freebies or if you do all the work your self like Hector did (and nothing against Hector for doing his own work, all the power to him and God bless him that he has that skill and knowledge to do all those things him self, I wish there were more people like him around). But for the average guy who has most his work done at a shop because he can’t do all the work him self it is not so cheap. Hector did all/most the work him self or helpers and he even got a few freebies and it still costed him $2000.00 I know guys that bought SR’s for $2000.00 / $2500.00 Anyway this thread is tiring me out we can sit here all day and go back and forth with this so this will be my last post on this thread. -I still believe the SR is the best bang for the $ - No matter which engine you go with (SR20DET or KA-T) they can both be made to go very fast and one faster then the other, it’s all a matter of how much time and money you are will to put into it. -RB26 owns us all PERIOD. ---
**Author:** ![Solarian](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/solarian/32/5514_2.png) [@Solarian](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Solarian)\ **Post date:** [June 11, 2005, 8:34am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/sohc-ka-t-15-psi-video/86253/58 "2005-06-11T08:34:38Z")
I actually think a turbo VQ30DE is a better choice than an RB26, but lets leave that for a different day 😃 ---
**Author:** ![Hector](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/43a26b/32.png) [@Hector](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Hector)\ **Post date:** [June 11, 2005, 9:10am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/sohc-ka-t-15-psi-video/86253/59 "2005-06-11T09:10:40Z")
> [@Solarian](#): > > I actually think a turbo VQ30DE is a better choice than an RB26, but lets leave that for a different day 😃 i think u are ricer without a clue, but lets leave that for another day, another wonderful thread ---
**Author:** ![Solarian](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/solarian/32/5514_2.png) [@Solarian](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Solarian)\ **Post date:** [June 11, 2005, 11:49am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/sohc-ka-t-15-psi-video/86253/60 "2005-06-11T11:49:09Z")
I think you’re closed minded, talk a lot of smack and don’t respect other people’s opinions. Someone is already doing a VQ30 into a 240, so we’ll talk about how much of a ricer I am when he’s done. Man… putting in a lighter higher-displacement motor with excellent potential is SUCH rice… That’s like altezza lights. [Previous page](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/sohc-ka-t-15-psi-video/86253.md?page=2) [Next page](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/sohc-ka-t-15-psi-video/86253.md?page=4)