# Soldier in Iraq Refuses Combat Mission. FINALLY! Read on.... **URL:** \ **Category:** NYSpeed Off Topic\ **Created:** [June 21, 2007, 2:28pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/soldier-in-iraq-refuses-combat-mission-finally-read-on/31281 "2007-06-21T14:28:17Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 14\ **Page:** 3
**Author:** ![jrod0187](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/ac91a4/32.png) [@jrod0187](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/jrod0187)\ **Post date:** [June 22, 2007, 2:06pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/soldier-in-iraq-refuses-combat-mission-finally-read-on/31281/41 "2007-06-22T14:06:25Z")
Hes fucked, I did some shit when i was in the military and they made me “disappear” for 30 days. After that there was no record what I did, he thinks he understands whats going to happend; he has no idea. Edit: no lawyer will touch the DOD, Ive already tried ---
**Author:** ![Nikuk](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/nikuk/32/7254_2.png) [@Nikuk](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Nikuk)\ **Post date:** [June 22, 2007, 2:06pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/soldier-in-iraq-refuses-combat-mission-finally-read-on/31281/42 "2007-06-22T14:06:51Z")
[quote=“nappy1380,post:39,topic:31281"”] Yes, maybe you are not though. The military we have now is not successful at what they are doing. [/quote] Which is a reflection of beauracracy, not ground force. ---
**Author:** ![system](https://canada1.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/uploads/speedlife/original/2X/b/b7170c8eddc0b95ece6b88172b2f416a08489a45.png) [@system](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/system)\ **Post date:** [June 22, 2007, 6:16pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/soldier-in-iraq-refuses-combat-mission-finally-read-on/31281/43 "2007-06-22T18:16:30Z")
Well considering I’m here right now in Iraq (again) I can pretty much tell you nothing goes on here. This is nothing more then a way for contractors to bang in some serious cheese at the expense of soldiers convoying them from point a to point b. Now if you think I have some sham job behind some pc in an Air conditioned office, boy are you dead fucking wrong. Everything here minus securing the FOB has been taken over by KBR. Maintinance? KBR. DFAC? KBR. Billeting? Even hops from one fob to another via air is done thru KBR. It’s pretty sad to see a convoy come in when you work on ECP where a vehicle gets blown up for a civilian convoy of 21 trucks that have no load on them. As for that dumb dip shit of a specialist. Is he fucked? Yes. Is he going to dissapear? No. Just some jail time and a dishonorable discharge. Nothing more. I dont see what the fuck he’s complaining about. I was supposed to get out in 2006 Nov, but got “stop lossed” and sent here to Iraq where I come to find out I got extended here for another 3 months instead of coming home in August like planed. So 15 months later my new ETS date is somewhere around dec-jan now I hope. But you wont see me bitching about having to go thru search lanes wondering if the next vehicle has a VBIED on it. It’s a job. Suck it up and drive on. Isaac ---
**Author:** ![nappy1380](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/nappy1380/32/7502_2.png) [@nappy1380](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/nappy1380)\ **Post date:** [June 22, 2007, 9:47pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/soldier-in-iraq-refuses-combat-mission-finally-read-on/31281/44 "2007-06-22T21:47:44Z")
^ To each their own. I have respect for everyone who is in the war. It sounds like you as just as fed up with it as the soldier mentioned in this post. He, however is def up and would rather speak up and refuse. Everyone has their own way to deal with situations, he is doing what he thinks is right. To each their own / Thread ---
**Author:** ![rskrause](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/rskrause/32/7367_2.png) [@rskrause](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/rskrause)\ **Post date:** [June 22, 2007, 11:39pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/soldier-in-iraq-refuses-combat-mission-finally-read-on/31281/45 "2007-06-22T23:39:49Z")
[quote=“nappy1380,post:44,topic:31281"”] ^ To each their own. I have respect for everyone who is in the war. It sounds like you as just as fed up with it as the soldier mentioned in this post. He, however is def up and would rather speak up and refuse. Everyone has their own way to deal with situations, he is doing what he thinks is right. To each their own / Thread [/quote] Mass murderers are also doing what they think is right. ---
**Author:** ![Afrank45](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/afrank45/32/5021_2.png) [@Afrank45](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Afrank45)\ **Post date:** [June 23, 2007, 12:19am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/soldier-in-iraq-refuses-combat-mission-finally-read-on/31281/46 "2007-06-23T00:19:59Z")
[quote=“fairgentleman Z,post:10,topic:31281"”] You mean the price of being a man and upholding your word that you swore an oath to? [/quote] im gonna take a guess an say when he joined the “national guard” not the army, navy, etc he wasnt planning on being deployed and being a “real solider” he probably thought he was gonna get a free ride through school and it back fired in his face. But everything you said fairgentlemen is right, my gut just tells me this guy got more then he bargained for when he signed up and now hes trying to be a trailblazer, and nothing good can come from it, and he will ultimately suffer greatly for trying to weasel his way out of his commitment, so i like most of you have no sympathy for him ---
**Author:** ![nappy1380](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/nappy1380/32/7502_2.png) [@nappy1380](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/nappy1380)\ **Post date:** [June 23, 2007, 6:33am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/soldier-in-iraq-refuses-combat-mission-finally-read-on/31281/47 "2007-06-23T06:33:56Z")
Is it me or does Afrank always think he is correct in ever debatable post on this forum and what he says is never wrong. ---
**Author:** ![nappy1380](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/nappy1380/32/7502_2.png) [@nappy1380](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/nappy1380)\ **Post date:** [June 23, 2007, 6:35am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/soldier-in-iraq-refuses-combat-mission-finally-read-on/31281/48 "2007-06-23T06:35:28Z")
[quote=“rskrause,post:45,topic:31281"”] Mass murderers are also doing what they think is right. [/quote] To are the extremists that we are fighting against. What would you do if someone came into this country and did to us what we are doing to that country? ---
**Author:** ![Bucker](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/bucker/32/7379_2.png) [@Bucker](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Bucker)\ **Post date:** [June 23, 2007, 11:16am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/soldier-in-iraq-refuses-combat-mission-finally-read-on/31281/49 "2007-06-23T11:16:14Z")
[quote=“nappy1380,post:48,topic:31281"”] To are the extremists that we are fighting against. What would you do if someone came into this country and did to us what we are doing to that country? [/quote] Shut up if you oon’t know what you are talking about. What ARE we doing to this country? It is a filty, unsanitary, infected cesspool. The people are ignorant, the police corupt. They live in mud huts with satellite dishes. They are religious fanaicts. Noo, I don’t think I am doing good here, but we aren’t making it any worse. I hate this country. ---
**Author:** ![somedude](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ecd19e/32.png) [@somedude](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/somedude)\ **Post date:** [June 23, 2007, 11:38am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/soldier-in-iraq-refuses-combat-mission-finally-read-on/31281/50 "2007-06-23T11:38:35Z")
> No, the oath to obey ALL orders of his superiors. A sucessfull military is NOT a democracy among the ranks. /thread ---
**Author:** ![system](https://canada1.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/uploads/speedlife/original/2X/b/b7170c8eddc0b95ece6b88172b2f416a08489a45.png) [@system](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/system)\ **Post date:** [June 23, 2007, 1:58pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/soldier-in-iraq-refuses-combat-mission-finally-read-on/31281/51 "2007-06-23T13:58:02Z")
[quote=“98 Red Ex,post:49,topic:31281"”] Shut up if you oon’t know what you are talking about. What ARE we doing to this country? It is a filty, unsanitary, infected cesspool. The people are ignorant, the police corupt. They live in mud huts with satellite dishes. They are religious fanaicts. Noo, I don’t think I am doing good here, but we aren’t making it any worse. I hate this country. [/quote] If you think he’s lieing, maybe I should bust out the digital camera next time im out on convoy. ---
**Author:** ![nappy1380](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/nappy1380/32/7502_2.png) [@nappy1380](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/nappy1380)\ **Post date:** [June 23, 2007, 3:21pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/soldier-in-iraq-refuses-combat-mission-finally-read-on/31281/52 "2007-06-23T15:21:51Z")
[quote=“98 Red Ex,post:49,topic:31281"”] Shut up if you oon’t know what you are talking about. What ARE we doing to this country? It is a filty, unsanitary, infected cesspool. The people are ignorant, the police corupt. They live in mud huts with satellite dishes. They are religious fanaicts. Noo, I don’t think I am doing good here, but we aren’t making it any worse. I hate this country. [/quote] SO the police that WE are training are corrupt?? Sounds like we are doing something worth while. I agree that we are not making it worse be we are spending billions upon billions of dollars and are not making it better. I feel bad for everyone over there that is risking their life for NOTHING! This country is using the lives of its own people to make the rich richer. ---
**Author:** ![SVT3945](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/svt3945/32/7409_2.png) [@SVT3945](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/SVT3945)\ **Post date:** [June 23, 2007, 3:30pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/soldier-in-iraq-refuses-combat-mission-finally-read-on/31281/53 "2007-06-23T15:30:32Z")
You guys can argue all you want about who’s right and who’s wrong, who should be shot and who should be court martialed. The bottom line is that we don’t need to be over there anymore and its time for our family, friends and children to come home. ---
**Author:** ![bing](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/bing/32/7211_2.png) [@bing](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/bing)\ **Post date:** [June 23, 2007, 6:59pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/soldier-in-iraq-refuses-combat-mission-finally-read-on/31281/54 "2007-06-23T18:59:54Z")
get him out of there and let him off easy. that way more people will do it and it provides a perfectly reasonable exit strategy. military people are suck fucking blind… OMG HE IS DISOBEYING AN ORDER!!! SHOOT HIM yeah… thank god for the jews all the nazi grunts followed orders. i bet the fuckers on the planes were following order when they hit the buildings. thank god all the vets from vietnam followed orders and were well taken care of afterwards. thank god all the other guys in iraq are following orders and making the world a better place. jesus christ, i signed up voluntarily to do what i do for a living and if they asked me to do some fucked up shit i’d peace out ASAP. regardless of codes or oaths its a job and not a very good one at that. There is absolutely no reason to hate this guy. however, i get the feeling that this whole thing is just another internet scam… Eli Isreal… yeah right [Previous page](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/soldier-in-iraq-refuses-combat-mission-finally-read-on/31281.md?page=2)