# Solid State Drives **URL:** \ **Category:** NYSpeed Off Topic\ **Created:** [February 6, 2011, 2:55pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/solid-state-drives/208918 "2011-02-06T14:55:15Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 2
**Author:** ![evane](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/6bbea6/32.png) [@evane](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/evane)\ **Post date:** [February 8, 2011, 9:57am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/solid-state-drives/208918/21 "2011-02-08T09:57:42Z")
> [@ProgRocker](#): > > A lot of computer will not recognize 3TB drives…I’d stick with 2 for now. Not completely accurate most computer systems can use and see a 3TB HD just fine and dandy. However not many can boot from a 3TB due the legacy BIOS limitations, I think you will finally start seeing a shift away from BIOS to UEFI ---------- Post added at 12:54 PM ---------- Previous post was at 12:52 PM ---------- > [@Tunerfreak](#): > > i would like one but i cant bring myself to pay $200+ for only 128gb when that would get me a 3tb HDD Once you’ve experienced the performance SSD’s yield you would understand why they are great. You can away have a additional HD for larger apps that you don’t want installed on the SSD. ---------- Post added at 12:57 PM ---------- Previous post was at 12:54 PM ---------- > [@TradersBASE](#): > > Interesting, I’m new to ssd drives and compatibility/performance matching. My mobo is sata II not III. MSI 975x to be specific. What would be the best drive for me to go with? I would assume with only having sata II it may not even matter? > > LZ…why no XP? I’m in need of being schooled here I can tell. 🙂 You can use SATA III drives on a SATA II controller, they just run at SATA II speeds. Best SSD’s right now are Corsair Force, OCZ Vertex 2, Mercury Extreme (via other world computing) and Crucial C300. And as muckman just said the Crucial C400’s are going to be out soon they will be the top tier then. ---
**Author:** ![ghost](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/f04885/32.png) [@ghost](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/ghost)\ **Post date:** [February 8, 2011, 10:17am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/solid-state-drives/208918/22 "2011-02-08T10:17:59Z")
^-- That’s what i’m waiting for… I may just go with a larger single drive… it’s going to be weird as i’ve been running raid on every single box i’ve owned since 98 (seagate cheetah 4lp 10k rpm ultra scsi… damn those drives were beasts… the spin-up sounded like a nice small turbo) ---
**Author:** ![Joe\_Omerta](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/ed8c4c/32.png) [@Joe\_Omerta](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Joe_Omerta)\ **Post date:** [February 10, 2011, 7:21am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/solid-state-drives/208918/23 "2011-02-10T07:21:40Z")
i’ve got 2 ocz vertex 2’s in raid 0 in my desktop, 60gig drives. started out around 250MB/s read/write last july when i got them, now there down to around 215MB/s read/write. plenty fast for me still, but some of the higher end drives can do 300MB/s+ as a single drive. ---
**Author:** ![ZOMGVTEK](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/zomgvtek/32/5063_2.png) [@ZOMGVTEK](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/ZOMGVTEK)\ **Post date:** [February 10, 2011, 8:13am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/solid-state-drives/208918/24 "2011-02-10T08:13:57Z")
I have a single OCZ Vertex 2 SSD in my MBP, and it does 250MB/s write, 260+ Read, consistently. Its been full dozens of times, to the point where it was at 0b available. No TRIM support in OS X, no issues at all. Its about a year old now… ![http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4102/5433957456_f816a7b88c_z.jpg](http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4102/5433957456_f816a7b88c_z.jpg) Might want to get a better SATA controller / RAID card if you are hitting 250 read/write in RAID 0… Im sure its slowing down both drives IOPS like RAID0 usually does especially with a crappy built in controller. ---
**Author:** ![Joe\_Omerta](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/ed8c4c/32.png) [@Joe\_Omerta](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Joe_Omerta)\ **Post date:** [February 10, 2011, 9:48pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/solid-state-drives/208918/25 "2011-02-10T21:48:57Z")
I’m using the onboard raid on an evga 750i ftw mobo… more or less highly outdated. Just ran HDtune and go an average of 145MB/s with a peak of 300MB/s and a low of 113MB/s. very intermittent graph as well. i’m looking at upgrading around october of this year as i’ve had my current system since 2008. ---
**Author:** ![burnt\_toast](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/burnt_toast/32/7518_2.png) [@burnt\_toast](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/burnt_toast)\ **Post date:** [February 11, 2011, 4:06am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/solid-state-drives/208918/26 "2011-02-11T04:06:54Z")
[http://www.newegg.com/Special/ShellShocker.aspx?cm\_sp=ShellShocker-](http://www.newegg.com/Special/ShellShocker.aspx?cm_sp=ShellShocker-)_-20-227-590-_-02112011 It expires at 1 today. Think it’s a good buy? ---
**Author:** ![ProgRocker](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/progrocker/32/5434_2.png) [@ProgRocker](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/ProgRocker)\ **Post date:** [February 11, 2011, 5:10am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/solid-state-drives/208918/27 "2011-02-11T05:10:21Z")
> [@burnt\_toast](#): > > [Shell Shocker: Best Electronics Sales | Newegg](http://www.newegg.com/Special/ShellShocker.aspx?cm_sp=ShellShocker-_-20-227-590-_-02112011) > > It expires at 1 today. Think it’s a good buy? Looks good to me! ---
**Author:** ![LZ1](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/7ab992/32.png) [@LZ1](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/LZ1)\ **Post date:** [February 11, 2011, 5:18am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/solid-state-drives/208918/28 "2011-02-11T05:18:39Z")
Everyone gets hung up on performance numbers… I got a middle of the road SSD and it fucking flys RAID is over kill for a home machine not to mention in RAID 0 if you lose 1 drive your fucked ---
**Author:** ![ZOMGVTEK](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/zomgvtek/32/5063_2.png) [@ZOMGVTEK](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/ZOMGVTEK)\ **Post date:** [February 11, 2011, 5:49am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/solid-state-drives/208918/29 "2011-02-11T05:49:07Z")
There is no point to running RAID 0 on fast SSD’s unless you are using a very high performance RAID card, which generally cost $500-1500… It will only degrade performance, and double the chances of a failure. And while a OK SSD will still be quick, I don’t see any reason to not buy the best when they’re all comparably priced. ---
**Author:** ![LZ1](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/7ab992/32.png) [@LZ1](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/LZ1)\ **Post date:** [February 11, 2011, 5:49am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/solid-state-drives/208918/30 "2011-02-11T05:49:50Z")
When I got my SSDs the price swing was pretty wide Now the prices are a lot better ---
**Author:** ![burnt\_toast](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/burnt_toast/32/7518_2.png) [@burnt\_toast](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/burnt_toast)\ **Post date:** [April 3, 2011, 8:42am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/solid-state-drives/208918/31 "2011-04-03T08:42:14Z")
prices for these are already showing a noticeable decrease. I haven’t purchased one yet and i’m even more inspired now to hold off maybe until the fall ---
**Author:** ![ZOMGVTEK](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/zomgvtek/32/5063_2.png) [@ZOMGVTEK](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/ZOMGVTEK)\ **Post date:** [April 3, 2011, 4:07pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/solid-state-drives/208918/32 "2011-04-03T16:07:05Z")
I would opt for a OCZ Vertex 3 when they’re easily available… The 120’s are essentially 2x the cost of the 60s, and the 240s are generally 4x the cost of the 60s. Just get what you think you can get away with. Honestly, 60GB is MORE than enough for a boot drive and a few games. Mass storage for media can go on a 2TB internal if its a desktop. If its a notebook? Id swing for a 120 and call it a day. Better have a SATA 3 Interface available, it actually needs it. Don’t just pick any SSD. Lots of them are JUNK compared to the top end ones, and aren’t very fast at all. Get a fast one or don’t bother. Id stick to the Vertex 3, or any of the new Intels. ---
**Author:** ![walter](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/walter/32/7202_2.png) [@walter](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/walter)\ **Post date:** [April 4, 2011, 7:34pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/solid-state-drives/208918/33 "2011-04-04T19:34:08Z")
Do you need the latest gen units if you only have a 3GB/s capable mobo? I was thinking about [http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820167031](http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820167031) or [http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820227551](http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820227551) ---
**Author:** ![ProgRocker](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/progrocker/32/5434_2.png) [@ProgRocker](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/ProgRocker)\ **Post date:** [April 4, 2011, 8:06pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/solid-state-drives/208918/34 "2011-04-04T20:06:28Z")
Vertex Fo Sho… ---
**Author:** ![ZOMGVTEK](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/zomgvtek/32/5063_2.png) [@ZOMGVTEK](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/ZOMGVTEK)\ **Post date:** [April 4, 2011, 8:59pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/solid-state-drives/208918/35 "2011-04-04T20:59:30Z")
If you only have a SATA II interface, it wont really make a big difference between the new drives and the current gens. The Vertex 3 Is a little better at random IOPS compared to the Vertex 2. Not very significantly, but they’re going to be about the same cost, and SHOULD be out very soon. At the very least, the current gen drives should be cheaper soon enough. I would wait and see where the prices head. If its not that significant, just swing for the Vertex 3 since it WILL be a bit faster. ---
**Author:** ![Gl1](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/gl1/32/5471_2.png) [@Gl1](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Gl1)\ **Post date:** [April 4, 2011, 9:08pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/solid-state-drives/208918/36 "2011-04-04T21:08:38Z")
> [@ProgRocker](#): > > A lot of computer will not recognize 3TB drives…I’d stick with 2 for now. > > Not to mention XP is starting to grow out of support with M$. Might as well run 7, it’s new, fast, and great GUI anything vista or later shouldn’t have a problem as long as you set it up as gpt instead of mbr. gpt is also supported in xp 64 bit. I have had 2 60 gig ocz vertex drives for about two years now. they both failed once and needed to be rma’d. if i could do it again i would have gone with a single intel drive. ---
**Author:** ![ProgRocker](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/progrocker/32/5434_2.png) [@ProgRocker](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/ProgRocker)\ **Post date:** [April 5, 2011, 4:05am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/solid-state-drives/208918/37 "2011-04-05T04:05:00Z")
> [@Gl@re](#): > > anything vista or later shouldn’t have a problem as long as you set it up as gpt instead of mbr. gpt is also supported in xp 64 bit. > > I have had 2 60 gig ocz vertex drives for about two years now. they both failed once and needed to be rma’d. if i could do it again i would have gone with a single intel drive. “Shouldn’t” is the key word I think they fixed the problem but it was an issue upon first release. [http://www.mediasmartserver.net/forums/viewtopic.php?f=1&t=10495](http://www.mediasmartserver.net/forums/viewtopic.php?f=1&t=10495) ---
**Author:** ![walter](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/walter/32/7202_2.png) [@walter](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/walter)\ **Post date:** [April 5, 2011, 8:21am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/solid-state-drives/208918/38 "2011-04-05T08:21:39Z")
> [@ZOMGVTEK](#): > > If you only have a SATA II interface, it wont really make a big difference between the new drives and the current gens. The Vertex 3 Is a little better at random IOPS compared to the Vertex 2. Not very significantly, but they’re going to be about the same cost, and SHOULD be out very soon. > > At the very least, the current gen drives should be cheaper soon enough. I would wait and see where the prices head. If its not that significant, just swing for the Vertex 3 since it WILL be a bit faster. Hrm, wonder when “soon” is. Waiting 6 months to say $50 isn’t really my cup of tea. ---
**Author:** ![Gl1](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/gl1/32/5471_2.png) [@Gl1](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Gl1)\ **Post date:** [April 5, 2011, 9:16am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/solid-state-drives/208918/39 "2011-04-05T09:16:58Z")
> [@ProgRocker](#): > > “Shouldn’t” is the key word I think they fixed the problem but it was an issue upon first release. > > [Windows Home Server Forums • View topic - 3TB Internal Hard drive by Hitachi or WD or Seagate - MediaSmartServer.net](http://www.mediasmartserver.net/forums/viewtopic.php?f=1&t=10495) and those are all about windows home server, which is based on server 2003. ---
**Author:** ![travisn](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/travisn/32/5046_2.png) [@travisn](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/travisn)\ **Post date:** [April 5, 2011, 9:46am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/solid-state-drives/208918/40 "2011-04-05T09:46:21Z")
> [@walter](#): > > Hrm, wonder when “soon” is. > > Waiting 6 months to say $50 isn’t really my cup of tea. I can say $50 whenever I want! [Previous page](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/solid-state-drives/208918.md?page=1) [Next page](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/solid-state-drives/208918.md?page=3)