# Some more fun "global warming" news. **URL:** \ **Category:** NYSpeed Off Topic\ **Created:** [January 25, 2010, 9:10am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/some-more-fun-global-warming-news/78597 "2010-01-25T09:10:39Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 2
**Author:** ![SPDboy](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/919ad9/32.png) [@SPDboy](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/SPDboy)\ **Post date:** [January 25, 2010, 12:19pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/some-more-fun-global-warming-news/78597/21 "2010-01-25T12:19:08Z")
I think all the general fartiness of the dinosaurs caused the first Ice Age ---
**Author:** ![deebo](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/deebo/32/5218_2.png) [@deebo](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/deebo)\ **Post date:** [January 25, 2010, 12:47pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/some-more-fun-global-warming-news/78597/22 "2010-01-25T12:47:15Z")
adam and eve fucked us really hard! greedy bastards HAD to eat the fruit, we wouldn’t have this problem if it wasn’t for them. ---
**Author:** ![Fry](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/fry/32/7284_2.png) [@Fry](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Fry)\ **Post date:** [January 25, 2010, 1:09pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/some-more-fun-global-warming-news/78597/23 "2010-01-25T13:09:23Z")
Of course the oceans are cooling. Does your gin and tonic get warmer as the ice in it melts? ---
**Author:** ![deebo](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/deebo/32/5218_2.png) [@deebo](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/deebo)\ **Post date:** [January 25, 2010, 1:26pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/some-more-fun-global-warming-news/78597/24 "2010-01-25T13:26:56Z")
it gets more watery… lol (Which would be related to sea level rising. which they are not) so there 😛 Over 2/3rds of the earths heat is stored in the oceans. The ocean should be getting warmer if there is some sort of epic global warming happening ---
**Author:** ![Fry](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/fry/32/7284_2.png) [@Fry](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Fry)\ **Post date:** [January 25, 2010, 1:37pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/some-more-fun-global-warming-news/78597/25 "2010-01-25T13:37:37Z")
Bro. Water expands when it freezes, right? So it logically contracts when it melts. Therefore, melting ice caps = dropping sea levels. Amirite? ---
**Author:** ![deebo](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/deebo/32/5218_2.png) [@deebo](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/deebo)\ **Post date:** [January 25, 2010, 1:55pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/some-more-fun-global-warming-news/78597/26 "2010-01-25T13:55:35Z")
if the whole ocean was all ice and it melted, yes the level would be lower. and vis versa But since it is water, and the ice melts, you are adding to the water level ---
**Author:** ![Fry](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/fry/32/7284_2.png) [@Fry](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Fry)\ **Post date:** [January 25, 2010, 2:13pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/some-more-fun-global-warming-news/78597/27 "2010-01-25T14:13:57Z")
> [@deebo](#): > > There is the ocean, with ice in it. The ocean is not solid ice, and the ice is not apart of the ocean… > If you have a Glass of water that is half filled, and put 3 ice cubes in it, over time the ice will melt. Sure you have the same water content of the ice + the water, but the water actual water level will rise > > Unless what you’re saying is so when the ice melts the water level should go down. However al gore explained it as when the polar ice caps melt, islands will be under water etc. He said something rediculous like 24feet the ocean level would increase by 2050 lol > > edit: > What im trying to say is, if the whole ocean was all ice and it melted, yes the level would be lower. and vis versa > But since it is water, and the ice melts, you are adding to the water level > > either way al gore said the earth would go under water because of melting ice caps, otherwise who gives a shit? I honestly can’t even read that. ---
**Author:** ![deebo](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/deebo/32/5218_2.png) [@deebo](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/deebo)\ **Post date:** [January 25, 2010, 2:22pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/some-more-fun-global-warming-news/78597/28 "2010-01-25T14:22:46Z")
i fixed it ---
**Author:** ![Inn-Tune](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/inn-tune/32/7588_2.png) [@Inn-Tune](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Inn-Tune)\ **Post date:** [January 25, 2010, 2:24pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/some-more-fun-global-warming-news/78597/29 "2010-01-25T14:24:43Z")
In 2013 when we reach solar maximum and the temperatures go up a hair they’ll be screaming bloody murder again. ---
**Author:** ![deebo](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/deebo/32/5218_2.png) [@deebo](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/deebo)\ **Post date:** [January 25, 2010, 2:48pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/some-more-fun-global-warming-news/78597/30 "2010-01-25T14:48:17Z")
we’re all gonna die in 2012 anyways ---
**Author:** ![mechanicalmadness](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/mechanicalmadness/32/5022_2.png) [@mechanicalmadness](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/mechanicalmadness)\ **Post date:** [January 25, 2010, 6:56pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/some-more-fun-global-warming-news/78597/31 "2010-01-25T18:56:54Z")
> [@Clean Baldy](#): > > I sit back and realize that the human race as a whole thinks they are superior to their surroundings when we are all just frail animals with a little larger brain than the rest of the tree dwelling beings. Do we really think we are so important as to have any ability to wreck the world? The only thing we can wreck is the ability for humans to survive here. > > As George Carlin once said “Earth is going to shake us off like a bad case of fleas” > > As a species, we are weak and pathetic. We are also one of the only animals on the planet that doesn’t use 100% of it’s brain. Something has damaged us, and for that I think we are no better off than the deer that runs out in front of a car because it doesn’t understand what will happen. We don’t work together, we are extremely emotional beings and act irrationally in most desperate situations. We all act like sheep, following the leader blindly. We are lemmings, all walking off the same cliff. etc. etc. > > Humans can pretend they understand everything, but we are just dumb animals all working together like a pack of wolves. We may be a little smarter than the rest of the creatures, we can use tools and build things and form language and technology, but in the end, we all will meet the same fate. > > I could care less if global warming is real or fake. No human beings on this planet today will be able to work together to solve the issue, even if it does exist. We just aren’t that in control of our surroundings. We like to divide ourselves up into different nations, states, cities and towns. We fight over money, power and religion that can’t all be right. > > We need to get over ourselves as a species and move forward or die. I have a feeling the “die” part will happen first. > > /rant Kind of have to give the good oll +1 on this one. FRY, just stop. Debo just doesnt get it. I had a similar conversation with a hillbillie in kentucky. He gave me the same explenation about a glass with ice cubes. On a side note not all glaciers are on water. Also one has to wonder about the density of glacial ice. ---
**Author:** ![deebo](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/deebo/32/5218_2.png) [@deebo](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/deebo)\ **Post date:** [January 25, 2010, 7:02pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/some-more-fun-global-warming-news/78597/32 "2010-01-25T19:02:00Z")
Cool story bro. Put a glass of water with no ice cubes in it Put a glass of water with ice cubes in it Watch the ice cubes melt Add the two cups together YOU HAVE MORE WATER Water just above freezing point is actually more expanded than water when it is frozen, so if the water is cold enough still (which is should be) it will actually be a higher. Why do you think when we get 8 feet of snow, and all of a sudden it decides to be 50degrees out, there are flash flood warnings. [sarcasm] OH NOES. The creek water level goes up? That doesnt make sense! It should go down! Why would adding water to water make it rise! This cant be the same as glaciers melting![/sarcasm] Where do you think and entire MILE thick of ice on antarctica is going to go? ---
**Author:** ![Joe](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/joe/32/7219_2.png) [@Joe](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Joe)\ **Post date:** [January 25, 2010, 7:16pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/some-more-fun-global-warming-news/78597/33 "2010-01-25T19:16:49Z")
:picard: ---
**Author:** ![mechanicalmadness](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/mechanicalmadness/32/5022_2.png) [@mechanicalmadness](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/mechanicalmadness)\ **Post date:** [January 25, 2010, 7:18pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/some-more-fun-global-warming-news/78597/34 "2010-01-25T19:18:40Z")
In my glass? No but really. Dense ice caps melt. Ice goes poof, space displaced by ice disappears, water pours into empty space. Now take the water that was formed by the melting ice caps and pour it into the ocean. Now your water level is is probably back to what it is at its current stage. Now lets throw in some theoretical work here. I am willing to bet that a 1"x1" cube of ice from one of the ice caps acquired from lets say 100 or more from within the cap is probably a bit heavier then the 1"x1" ice cube found in my refrigerator. You yell bs and wip your dick out in an attempt to measure weeners. You yell that liquids cant be compressed yada yada yada… I agree with the fact that liquids cant be compressed. BUT. Ice is now a solid…Hold on sparky dont speak yet…A pretty little refrigerator ice cube has pretty little air bubbles that I bet are lacking a little bit in ice cap ice due to the ice being crushed by…you guessed it, more ice. So this in turn makes ice cap ice, more dense. So inturn a 1"x1" ice cube from the ice caps can potentially produce a bit more water then a 1"x1" ice cube from a freezer. I am sure some genious on here will prove me wrong but keep in mind that this is just me using my tired old naugin. So now that we have the ice caps out of the way lets think elsewhere. After all the world is bigger then our back yards right? Ok how about glacial ice? Ya know, the ice in New Zealand? Where does that go when it melts? You guessed it. My glass. Plenty of melty stuff world wide that could cause a problem provided that temps go up a bit. ---
**Author:** ![Onyx\_Z32](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/onyx_z32/32/7581_2.png) [@Onyx\_Z32](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Onyx_Z32)\ **Post date:** [January 25, 2010, 7:39pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/some-more-fun-global-warming-news/78597/35 "2010-01-25T19:39:14Z")
Speaking of glaciers, I thought this thread was going to be about the melting Himalayan glaciers that the IPCC now admits are not melting as fast as they thought… _"The controversy centers on a paragraph in Chapter 10 of the 2007 report which states: "Glaciers in the Himalaya are receding faster than in any other part of the world, and if the present rate continues, the likelihood of them disappearing by the year 2035 and perhaps sooner is very high if the Earth keeps warming at the current rate. Its total area will likely shrink from the present 500,000 to 100,000 square kilometers by the year 2035. "_ A glacier expert interviewed by CNN explained that the data published was flawed. Michael Zemp from the World Glacier Monitoring Service said: “There are simply no observations available to make these sorts of statements.” Zemp says that the figures quoted in the report are not possible because 500,000 square kilometers is estimated to be the total surface area of all mountain glaciers worldwide. “The other thing is that the report says the glaciers are receding faster than anywhere else in the world. We simply do not have the glacier change measurements. The Himalayas are among those regions with the fewest available data,” Zemp said."[Link](http://www.cnn.com/2010/WORLD/asiapcf/01/20/glacier.himalayas.ipcc.error/?hpt=Sbin) _"All the mistakes appear in a sub-section that suggests glaciers in the Himalayas could melt away by the year 2035 - hundreds of years earlier than the data actually indicates. The year 2350 was apparently transposed as 2035."_[Link](http://www.google.com/hostednews/ukpress/article/ALeqM5hjukTxpZhKYpo7eMDY2\_nDr6MjPw) ---
**Author:** ![deebo](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/deebo/32/5218_2.png) [@deebo](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/deebo)\ **Post date:** [January 25, 2010, 7:54pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/some-more-fun-global-warming-news/78597/36 "2010-01-25T19:54:46Z")
Dude. I’m talking about ice that is on land masses lol i understand water displacement Al Gore predicted a 20foot sea level rise because of melting ice caps, ice on landmasses, ice on everything. It’s not even close to that. The IPCC actually lowered there predictions after 2 years after coming out with their initial predictions for the entire century Arctic ice levels have been increasing over the past 30 years… dependent on the months, sometimes its slower to freeze back over I Also find it hilarious that on those pictures of the ice caps, one is an average of all seasons for 30 years, and the other is during september, which is the season low for ice. It’s actually the lowest part of the cycle ---
**Author:** ![97\_B18b1](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/9/cdc98d/32.png) [@97\_B18b1](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/97_B18b1)\ **Post date:** [January 25, 2010, 10:51pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/some-more-fun-global-warming-news/78597/37 "2010-01-25T22:51:33Z")
ummm if you want the information to be accurate, you will. This is especially upsetting if its true that they are only using one thermometer for the entire fuckin country. Canada is huge. > [@Fry](#): > > Cliffs: > > NOAA: “No Canada, we’re not interested in data from every fucking thermometer you own.” > Scienticians: “Hey, yer doin it wrong!” > Canada: “Ha ha!” > NOAA: :uhh: ---
**Author:** ![97\_B18b1](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/9/cdc98d/32.png) [@97\_B18b1](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/97_B18b1)\ **Post date:** [January 25, 2010, 10:56pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/some-more-fun-global-warming-news/78597/38 "2010-01-25T22:56:11Z")
by the way earth isnt the only planet whos polar caps seem to be receding [http://news.nationalgeographic.com/news/2007/02/070228-mars-warming.html](http://news.nationalgeographic.com/news/2007/02/070228-mars-warming.html) but this is also old news ---
**Author:** ![mechanicalmadness](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/mechanicalmadness/32/5022_2.png) [@mechanicalmadness](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/mechanicalmadness)\ **Post date:** [January 26, 2010, 3:04am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/some-more-fun-global-warming-news/78597/39 "2010-01-26T03:04:23Z")
All scientific bullshit aside. I do remember winter when I was little and the amount of snow we used to get. IDK it just seems like winters are getting more and more mild. On a side note since Mars ice caps are melting anyone wana go rafting in a few decades? ---
**Author:** ![Fry](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/fry/32/7284_2.png) [@Fry](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Fry)\ **Post date:** [January 26, 2010, 5:33am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/some-more-fun-global-warming-news/78597/40 "2010-01-26T05:33:55Z")
> [@mechanicalmadness](#): > > All scientific bullshit aside. I do remember winter when I was little and the amount of snow we used to get. IDK it just seems like winters are getting more and more mild. Naw you just got bigger. Snow drifts as high as your head aren’t that impressive when you’re only 2 feet tall. [Previous page](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/some-more-fun-global-warming-news/78597.md?page=1) [Next page](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/some-more-fun-global-warming-news/78597.md?page=3)