# Someone didn't tip me today... **URL:** \ **Category:** PittSpeed Off Topic\ **Created:** [September 24, 2005, 10:39pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/someone-didnt-tip-me-today/177261 "2005-09-24T22:39:47Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 3
**Author:** ![ninjenn](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/c67d28/32.png) [@ninjenn](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/ninjenn)\ **Post date:** [September 26, 2005, 8:25am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/someone-didnt-tip-me-today/177261/41 "2005-09-26T08:25:39Z")
> [@Swarzkopf](#): > > Not tipping the Pizza guy makes you a cheap motherfucker, period. Who are you to stereotype him as “scum”? Maybe he’s a college kid hustling his way to paid tuition? Maybe it’s someone who’s doing it temporarily because they just lost their job? Did anyone in this thread say that they DIDN’T tip their pizza delivery guy? As a tipped employee, I tip everyone probably far too much than I should, INCLUDING the pizza guy (especially if they tell me 45 minutes and he shows up in 15) ---
**Author:** ![fshowcars](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/fshowcars/32/5937_2.png) [@fshowcars](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/fshowcars)\ **Post date:** [September 26, 2005, 8:27am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/someone-didnt-tip-me-today/177261/42 "2005-09-26T08:27:04Z")
> [@ShalerPunk](#): > > I make $5/hour. I drive roughly 100 miles per seven hour shift. I get about 20mpg while delivering. Gas is $2.75/gallon. > > $35 in pay > > - $13.75 fuel cost > - $1 (1/30th of oil change) > > * * * > > $20.25/7 hours of work ($2.89/hour) > > I’d say that number is VERY consistent with what a waitress makes. I’m not saying I expect an incredible tip from every customer, but if you can’t tip, drive your cheap ass to the pizza shop and pick the food up. > > It’s not poor people either. I’ve noticed that people who live in a shack don’t usually order delivery unless they have at least an extra dollar to give me on top of the total. The people who don’t tip are: > > 1. Over-spending yuppie assholes (like my parents’ neighbours) who believe they are entitled to additional services (delivery) for no premium over takeout price. Maybe they can put that $2 toward the Volvo payment… :rolleyes: > > 2. Millvale/Etna drunks who give their seven year old kids the money because they’re too sloshed to get off the couch. > > If a regular customer realises when I get there that they don’t have enough cash for a tip, I say “don’t worry about it”, and I get tipped next time. If someone displays an obvious disregard for the quality of their service by neglecting to tip me, next time their food may be: > > 1. shaken vigorously before being delivered. > 2. upside-down > 3. cold > > they should be happy that i don’t dip my balls in it. so what if gas was 99 cents a gallon… then you make mad money. only YOU think your job’s income is based on oil prices… not your employer… and it’s thier thoughts that matter so it’s a moot point. ---
**Author:** ![ShalerPunk](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/shalerpunk/32/5976_2.png) [@ShalerPunk](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/ShalerPunk)\ **Post date:** [September 26, 2005, 8:29am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/someone-didnt-tip-me-today/177261/43 "2005-09-26T08:29:25Z")
> [@fshowcars](#): > > i konw what you’re saying, but pizza delivery isn’t a waitress, you can’t bitch to the pizza kid to get free food or more food or anything of the sort… so whatever. not true at all. i’ve delivered food that was late before, or the box looked crushed, or the wing sauce spilled all over the inside of the bag… i point it out to the customer as i deliver it and ask them to check their food out before they pay me… if it’s not acceptable, i offer to have it remade, refund their money, whatever… if it is acceptable, i still usually kick them a $3 coupon for next time for it being late/damaged/whatever. ---
**Author:** ![ShalerPunk](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/shalerpunk/32/5976_2.png) [@ShalerPunk](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/ShalerPunk)\ **Post date:** [September 26, 2005, 8:30am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/someone-didnt-tip-me-today/177261/44 "2005-09-26T08:30:57Z")
> [@fshowcars](#): > > so what if gas was 99 cents a gallon… then you make mad money. > > only YOU think your job’s income is based on oil prices… not your employer… and it’s thier thoughts that matter > > so it’s a moot point. actually, you’re an idiot. when gas was a dollar per gallon, I made $3/hour. but you know the motives of my employer… :blah: ---
**Author:** ![fshowcars](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/fshowcars/32/5937_2.png) [@fshowcars](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/fshowcars)\ **Post date:** [September 26, 2005, 8:31am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/someone-didnt-tip-me-today/177261/45 "2005-09-26T08:31:51Z")
> [@ShalerPunk](#): > > actually, you’re an idiot. > > when gas was a dollar per gallon, I made $3/hour. > > but you know the motives of my employer… :blah: so you got paid less than minimum wage? ---
**Author:** ![ShalerPunk](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/shalerpunk/32/5976_2.png) [@ShalerPunk](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/ShalerPunk)\ **Post date:** [September 26, 2005, 8:32am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/someone-didnt-tip-me-today/177261/46 "2005-09-26T08:32:39Z")
> [@fshowcars](#): > > so you got paid less than minimum wage? it’s a tipped job, isn’t it? ---
**Author:** ![fshowcars](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/fshowcars/32/5937_2.png) [@fshowcars](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/fshowcars)\ **Post date:** [September 26, 2005, 8:35am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/someone-didnt-tip-me-today/177261/47 "2005-09-26T08:35:54Z")
> [@ShalerPunk](#): > > it’s a tipped job, isn’t it? that’s what i’m asking, i never delivered pizza ---
**Author:** ![fshowcars](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/fshowcars/32/5937_2.png) [@fshowcars](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/fshowcars)\ **Post date:** [September 26, 2005, 8:38am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/someone-didnt-tip-me-today/177261/48 "2005-09-26T08:38:35Z")
> [@ShalerPunk](#): > > it’s a tipped job, isn’t it? so if it is… then you get your minimum wage regardless of tips… so what’s the problem? ---
**Author:** ![Swarzkopf](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/7feea3/32.png) [@Swarzkopf](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Swarzkopf)\ **Post date:** [September 26, 2005, 8:39am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/someone-didnt-tip-me-today/177261/49 "2005-09-26T08:39:29Z")
> but if you can’t tip, drive your cheap ass to the pizza shop and pick the food up. Exactly. ---
**Author:** ![Jenn](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/ba9def/32.png) [@Jenn](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Jenn)\ **Post date:** [September 26, 2005, 8:40am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/someone-didnt-tip-me-today/177261/50 "2005-09-26T08:40:18Z")
Who do you work for? I’d like to call him and find out how he can pay under minimum wage for a job that isn’t considered tipped. ---
**Author:** ![ShalerPunk](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/shalerpunk/32/5976_2.png) [@ShalerPunk](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/ShalerPunk)\ **Post date:** [September 26, 2005, 8:43am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/someone-didnt-tip-me-today/177261/51 "2005-09-26T08:43:23Z")
> [@Jenn](#): > > Who do you work for? I’d like to call him and find out how he can pay under minimum wage for a job that isn’t considered tipped. how isn’t it considered tipped? edit: fuck it. tired of arguing with children. i make too much money. no one should tip me. in fact, my customers should get free oral every time i deliver. and then i should pay them. \ ---
**Author:** ![fshowcars](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/fshowcars/32/5937_2.png) [@fshowcars](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/fshowcars)\ **Post date:** [September 26, 2005, 8:58am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/someone-didnt-tip-me-today/177261/52 "2005-09-26T08:58:04Z")
well i honestly want to know if it is a tipped job (which i didn’t think it was) and your employers equation to figure out your hourly wage based on current oil prices. i understand shit like the IRS minimum milage going up 2 cents a mile… but i never heard of pizza shop owners lowering and raising hourly wages because of gas prices. how are you arguing with children when everyone on here is your age or older? ---
**Author:** ![ShalerPunk](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/shalerpunk/32/5976_2.png) [@ShalerPunk](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/ShalerPunk)\ **Post date:** [September 26, 2005, 9:20am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/someone-didnt-tip-me-today/177261/53 "2005-09-26T09:20:38Z")
> [@fshowcars](#): > > how are you arguing with children when everyone on here is your age or older? Jenn is? You’re really the only two people in this thread “arguing” with me. I thought she was under 21. ---
**Author:** ![fshowcars](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/fshowcars/32/5937_2.png) [@fshowcars](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/fshowcars)\ **Post date:** [September 26, 2005, 9:26am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/someone-didnt-tip-me-today/177261/54 "2005-09-26T09:26:23Z")
what exactly is your point? i wasn’t arguing with anyone… i didn’t know that a delivery person is a tipped waged job… because i didn’t think it was. and i simply stated that you can’t really compensate your earnings because of high gas prices… if that were the case, pizza delivery guys would get paid milage ontop of their hourly rate. ---
**Author:** ![ShalerPunk](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/shalerpunk/32/5976_2.png) [@ShalerPunk](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/ShalerPunk)\ **Post date:** [September 26, 2005, 9:28am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/someone-didnt-tip-me-today/177261/55 "2005-09-26T09:28:38Z")
> [@fshowcars](#): > > and i simply stated that you can’t really compensate your earnings because of high gas prices… if that were the case, pizza delivery guys would get paid milage ontop of their hourly rate. they do at many pizza shops. ---
**Author:** ![fshowcars](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/fshowcars/32/5937_2.png) [@fshowcars](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/fshowcars)\ **Post date:** [September 26, 2005, 9:33am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/someone-didnt-tip-me-today/177261/56 "2005-09-26T09:33:53Z")
> [@ShalerPunk](#): > > they do at many pizza shops. so what? other computer admins get to wear jeans on friday, because of that should i entitle myself to at my company? no. ---
**Author:** ![Sight\_N\_Sound](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/sight_n_sound/32/5950_2.png) [@Sight\_N\_Sound](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Sight_N_Sound)\ **Post date:** [September 26, 2005, 9:34am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/someone-didnt-tip-me-today/177261/57 "2005-09-26T09:34:30Z")
> [@ShalerPunk](#): > > they do at many pizza shops. then go work for them :dunno: ---
**Author:** ![fshowcars](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/fshowcars/32/5937_2.png) [@fshowcars](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/fshowcars)\ **Post date:** [September 26, 2005, 9:34am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/someone-didnt-tip-me-today/177261/58 "2005-09-26T09:34:31Z")
> [@ShalerPunk](#): > > you’re an idiot. 🌑 ---
**Author:** ![fshowcars](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/fshowcars/32/5937_2.png) [@fshowcars](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/fshowcars)\ **Post date:** [September 26, 2005, 9:34am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/someone-didnt-tip-me-today/177261/59 "2005-09-26T09:34:42Z")
> [@Sight N Sound](#): > > then go work for them :dunno: EXACTLY ---
**Author:** ![ShalerPunk](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/shalerpunk/32/5976_2.png) [@ShalerPunk](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/ShalerPunk)\ **Post date:** [September 26, 2005, 9:34am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/someone-didnt-tip-me-today/177261/60 "2005-09-26T09:34:53Z")
> [@fshowcars](#): > > do you? no. i work for a mom + pop shop. we’ve looked at a lot of different ways to do the pay, and the current setup works best for both of us because it keeps my wages relatively consistent. It might mean that I take a beating on my wages on days that I take 40 deliveries, but the tips USUALLY more than make up for the extra fuel used. Plus, on a Monday I usually make very little due to slow business, so I at least have the $5/hr to expect. [Previous page](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/someone-didnt-tip-me-today/177261.md?page=2) [Next page](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/someone-didnt-tip-me-today/177261.md?page=4)