# Somthing is Seriously Screwed with my Subframe (Pics) **URL:** \ **Category:** SON240sx Automotive\ **Created:** [February 4, 2005, 4:26pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/somthing-is-seriously-screwed-with-my-subframe-pics/83442 "2005-02-04T16:26:05Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 15\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![DTS](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/8491ac/32.png) [@DTS](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/DTS)\ **Post date:** [February 4, 2005, 4:26pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/somthing-is-seriously-screwed-with-my-subframe-pics/83442/1 "2005-02-04T16:26:05Z")
So im trying to install my SPL parts aluminum subframe spacers and i do the passanger side no problem, on to the drivers side, and the front subframe mount wont drop down enough for me to slide the spacer in so i look at it and the actual bolt on the end of the peg is connected to the rubber bushing but the passanger side is fine! ![http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v216/JDMHippo/Perfect.jpg](http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v216/JDMHippo/Perfect.jpg) As you can see in this pic this is the passanger side which is fine and has a rubber ring and has a bolt that drops threw the ring ![http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v216/JDMHippo/WHATTHEFUCK.jpg](http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v216/JDMHippo/WHATTHEFUCK.jpg) on the drivers side the bolt is actually connected solidly to the bushing not allowing the subframe to drop!! what the hell is going on guy!! will it affect my performance if i only use the bottom half of the spacers for the front mount the back is fine and the passanger! please help ---
**Author:** ![SHIFT\_KA24DET](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/b9bd4f/32.png) [@SHIFT\_KA24DET](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/SHIFT_KA24DET)\ **Post date:** [February 4, 2005, 5:44pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/somthing-is-seriously-screwed-with-my-subframe-pics/83442/2 "2005-02-04T17:44:43Z")
Come on Guy… This shouldn’t have even had to be asked… Take a pry bar and pry the fcuker off. It honestly saddens me when people ask questions like this. If you are going to work on your own car your going to have to learn how to problem solve issues like this. This is something with 5min of thought could have been solved. ---
**Author:** ![DTS](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/8491ac/32.png) [@DTS](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/DTS)\ **Post date:** [February 4, 2005, 5:47pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/somthing-is-seriously-screwed-with-my-subframe-pics/83442/3 "2005-02-04T17:47:47Z")
i love you adam :oops: ---
**Author:** ![SHIFT\_KA24DET](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/b9bd4f/32.png) [@SHIFT\_KA24DET](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/SHIFT_KA24DET)\ **Post date:** [February 4, 2005, 5:50pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/somthing-is-seriously-screwed-with-my-subframe-pics/83442/4 "2005-02-04T17:50:47Z")
> [@DTS](#): > > i love you adam :oops: I know you do dude but use your head when encountering problems like this. Your a smart guy… (I think?) If the pry bar your using isn’t working out use a bigger one… Go out and buy/rent/borow an air chissle if all else fails. ---
**Author:** ![ADAM](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/4af34b/32.png) [@ADAM](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/ADAM)\ **Post date:** [February 4, 2005, 6:43pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/somthing-is-seriously-screwed-with-my-subframe-pics/83442/5 "2005-02-04T18:43:51Z")
what about the hammer…i start with a hammer…then go to prybar ---
**Author:** ![SHIFT\_KA24DET](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/b9bd4f/32.png) [@SHIFT\_KA24DET](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/SHIFT_KA24DET)\ **Post date:** [February 4, 2005, 6:50pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/somthing-is-seriously-screwed-with-my-subframe-pics/83442/6 "2005-02-04T18:50:58Z")
> [@ADAM](#): > > what about the hammer…i start with a hammer…then go to prybar He’s tried Hammer and Small Pry Bar (~18") He needs to come to my house and get Big Blue (60" Crow Bar) 😉 ---
**Author:** ![rotorkami\_wa](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/e36b37/32.png) [@rotorkami\_wa](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/rotorkami_wa)\ **Post date:** [February 4, 2005, 6:57pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/somthing-is-seriously-screwed-with-my-subframe-pics/83442/7 "2005-02-04T18:57:56Z")
heat… heat the ring/bushing until you think the rubber going to smoke… then spray some reallly good penetrating fluid on the gap, a few times over the next 15 min. walk away from it for a few hrs to a day… come back, slip a pickle fork in between the the frame and subframe … a couple of good walk around tugs and it will come off, it’s simply jammed from the expansion of the metal oxide… wedged .if you prefer. ---
**Author:** ![SHIFT\_KA24DET](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/b9bd4f/32.png) [@SHIFT\_KA24DET](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/SHIFT_KA24DET)\ **Post date:** [February 4, 2005, 8:55pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/somthing-is-seriously-screwed-with-my-subframe-pics/83442/8 "2005-02-04T20:55:33Z")
Heat then Lube don’t mix… The Hot Metal will just boil away the spray on prenatrating lube… ---
**Author:** ![Jesse](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/c77e96/32.png) [@Jesse](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Jesse)\ **Post date:** [February 4, 2005, 9:00pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/somthing-is-seriously-screwed-with-my-subframe-pics/83442/9 "2005-02-04T21:00:42Z")
> [@SHIFT\_SR20DET](#): > > Heat then Lube don’t mix… they did last night baby :love: ---
**Author:** ![SHIFT\_KA24DET](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/b9bd4f/32.png) [@SHIFT\_KA24DET](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/SHIFT_KA24DET)\ **Post date:** [February 4, 2005, 9:04pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/somthing-is-seriously-screwed-with-my-subframe-pics/83442/10 "2005-02-04T21:04:03Z")
> [@Jesse](#): > > [quote=SHIFT\_SR20DET]Heat then Lube don’t mix… they did last night baby :love:[/quote] Yeah eh… I guess you herd me and your mom going at it again… Sorry dude 😉 ---
**Author:** ![TM1](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/tm1/32/5517_2.png) [@TM1](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/TM1)\ **Post date:** [February 4, 2005, 9:30pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/somthing-is-seriously-screwed-with-my-subframe-pics/83442/11 "2005-02-04T21:30:05Z")
> [@SHIFT\_SR20DET](#): > > Heat then Lube don’t mix… > > The Hot Metal will just boil away the spray on prenatrating lube… If it’s applied liberally, and then the bolt in contacted with a hammer a few times, it doesn’t burn away, and it works just fine… Sometimes the expansion and contraction alone caused by the heat is enough to break the seal created by the corrosion… ---
**Author:** ![rotorkami\_wa](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/e36b37/32.png) [@rotorkami\_wa](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/rotorkami_wa)\ **Post date:** [February 5, 2005, 8:12am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/somthing-is-seriously-screwed-with-my-subframe-pics/83442/12 "2005-02-05T08:12:17Z")
as stated , the self penetrationg oil ( not lube , becuse it’s not ), does two things , first it does cool the bolt causing it to ‘shrink’ , second, it also causes the stud/bolt when spraying over a period of time, to work with the heat to draw it up faster into the seized area. Penetrating lube does penetrate deeper and faster on heated objects… no applying (‘yor mama’ jokes to the above ) > [@SHIFT\_SR20DET](#): > > Heat then Lube don’t mix… > > The Hot Metal will just boil away the spray on prenatrating lube… ---
**Author:** ![NeveR](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/e95f7d/32.png) [@NeveR](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/NeveR)\ **Post date:** [February 5, 2005, 8:27am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/somthing-is-seriously-screwed-with-my-subframe-pics/83442/13 "2005-02-05T08:27:58Z")
> [@rotorkami wa](#): > > …penetrate deeper and faster on heated objects… > > no applying (‘yor mama’ jokes to the above ) Sounds like me and your sister last night. Giggity giggity. ---
**Author:** ![rotorkami\_wa](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/e36b37/32.png) [@rotorkami\_wa](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/rotorkami_wa)\ **Post date:** [February 5, 2005, 9:15am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/somthing-is-seriously-screwed-with-my-subframe-pics/83442/14 "2005-02-05T09:15:16Z")
… just earned yourself a shot in the head… smart ass ---
**Author:** ![DTS](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/8491ac/32.png) [@DTS](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/DTS)\ **Post date:** [February 5, 2005, 9:30am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/somthing-is-seriously-screwed-with-my-subframe-pics/83442/15 "2005-02-05T09:30:38Z")
ya the problem was solved, basically what is is was this, ![http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v216/JDMHippo/yummu.jpg](http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v216/JDMHippo/yummu.jpg) if you look inside the subframe spacer in the middle you will see there is a metal washer thats is welded to that bracket thing, well it was fused to the bolt, so im going to take a dremil and a cutoff wheel and cut it out thanks for the help boys! 😉