# Sorry about the mess, just checking in... (UPDATE)

**URL:** <https://forums.speedlife.net/t/sorry-about-the-mess-just-checking-in-update/48553>\
**Category:** NYSpeed Automotive\
**Created:** [May 16, 2008, 9:00am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/sorry-about-the-mess-just-checking-in-update/48553 "2008-05-16T09:00:49Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![system](https://canada1.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/uploads/speedlife/original/2X/b/b7170c8eddc0b95ece6b88172b2f416a08489a45.png) [@system](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/system)\
**Post date:** [May 16, 2008, 11:00am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/sorry-about-the-mess-just-checking-in-update/48553/21 "2008-05-16T11:00:54Z")

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> [@Motocrossx23](#):
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> like everyone says, it’s not the rider of the bike, its people around you that you need to be worried about

exactly.

glad to hear your ok and :tup: to wearing gear

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**Author:** ![Motocrossx23](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/motocrossx23/32/5120_2.png) [@Motocrossx23](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Motocrossx23)\
**Post date:** [May 16, 2008, 11:02am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/sorry-about-the-mess-just-checking-in-update/48553/22 "2008-05-16T11:02:31Z")

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> [@newman](#):
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> DEF!
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> You would be SOL w/o a witness.

yeah i would lol, thank god he stopped and made sure i was ok lol

> [@LUKE\_L](#):
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> That sucks…but glad you are ok :tup:
> 
> Any damage done to the idiot that cut you off?

thanks, no damage to the dumbass tho, i never made contact with him, he just caused the accident by cutting in front of me, so in court more than likely it will stand as wreckless driving on his part as the cause of the accident

> [@sureshot!](#):
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> At first I didn’t understand how a fender bender resulted in a trip to the emergency room and how it could necessitate a thread. Furthermore I didn’t understand how you rear-ending someone would equate to a win in court.
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> Then I found out you were on a bike!!! :ham:
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> Him leaving the scene HAS to basically seal the case in your favor… with the witnesses. ching. ching. ( as long as you heal up properly )

he drove off cuz he didnt think he did anything (dont mind the bike sliding past your passenger side, or the horns blaring, or the HUMAN BEING flying behind your car in the street. lol

> [@strokingnova](#):
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> Glad your ok, sucks about the bike but im sure after court you will probably be able to pay cash for a new one at the dealer, even bikes with minimal damage usually get totaled…thumbs up to good witnesses

i just hope i’m covered. i don’t have collision on the bike because it was paid off in full, so if i want to see any $$$ i’m going to have to go after his insurance, or if thats not possible i’m going to threaten to sue.

> [@rdandy5875](#):
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> wow, glad you are alright dude, gear ftw…I just about cry when I see someone on a bike with no gear these days.

short sleeves, shorts, a a skull cap helmet…idk how people do it and think they’ll be ok if anything happens…

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**Author:** ![khoveraki](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/khoveraki/32/5131_2.png) [@khoveraki](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/khoveraki)\
**Post date:** [May 16, 2008, 11:07am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/sorry-about-the-mess-just-checking-in-update/48553/23 "2008-05-16T11:07:42Z")

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So in NYS this is how the point system goes:

First DWI: 3pts

MURDERING SOMEONE WITH YOUR CAR: 6 pts.

Leaving the scene of an accident like the jerk who cut you off: 6pts

Getting a wicked settlement: priceless

oh wait i mean that’s worth a trillion bucks.

wooo!

glad to hear you’re alright man.

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**Author:** ![paulysplitx](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/paulysplitx/32/7320_2.png) [@paulysplitx](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/paulysplitx)\
**Post date:** [May 16, 2008, 11:08am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/sorry-about-the-mess-just-checking-in-update/48553/24 "2008-05-16T11:08:18Z")

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Glad your ok. I also work on the BLVD and I know how people drive like ass hats. Any pics of the bike after the wreck?

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**Author:** ![Dr.Stevil](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/da6949/32.png) [@Dr.Stevil](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Dr.Stevil)\
**Post date:** [May 16, 2008, 11:11am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/sorry-about-the-mess-just-checking-in-update/48553/25 "2008-05-16T11:11:10Z")

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> [@paulysplitx](#):
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> on the BLVD … people drive like ass hats.

QFT

Christmas is the worst

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**Author:** ![ieatpaint](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/ieatpaint/32/7311_2.png) [@ieatpaint](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/ieatpaint)\
**Post date:** [May 16, 2008, 11:20am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/sorry-about-the-mess-just-checking-in-update/48553/26 "2008-05-16T11:20:27Z")

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dont take this the wrong way please…

this is a prime example why practicing EMERGENCY braking saves your ass. willybeen preached it to me and i didi it. its saved me probably 25 times in 3 seasons. you probably wouldnt have gone down if you were braking properly… ie no tires skidding. also a prime example why you buy top of the line tires… pilot powers probably wouldnt have locked up and slid on you.

glad to hear youre ok man, just keep in mind that this shit happens and grabbing a shiny new bike may not b the best idea. pick up something comperable to wht you got and replace your helmet if it hit the pavement. good luck with the legal stuff dude.

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**Author:** ![newman](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/newman/32/7569_2.png) [@newman](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/newman)\
**Post date:** [May 16, 2008, 11:21am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/sorry-about-the-mess-just-checking-in-update/48553/27 "2008-05-16T11:21:54Z")

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This would be bad if it happened to me. I only have a rear brake. My braking distance is LONG.

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**Author:** ![longuyen88](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/longuyen88/32/7611_2.png) [@longuyen88](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/longuyen88)\
**Post date:** [May 16, 2008, 12:00pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/sorry-about-the-mess-just-checking-in-update/48553/28 "2008-05-16T12:00:50Z")

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im glad you’re ok man

just got a bike myself and got a close call yesterday on main

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**Author:** ![system](https://canada1.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/uploads/speedlife/original/2X/b/b7170c8eddc0b95ece6b88172b2f416a08489a45.png) [@system](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/system)\
**Post date:** [May 16, 2008, 12:32pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/sorry-about-the-mess-just-checking-in-update/48553/29 "2008-05-16T12:32:09Z")

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everyone be careful damnit!

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**Author:** ![Kramer](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/97f17d/32.png) [@Kramer](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Kramer)\
**Post date:** [May 16, 2008, 12:35pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/sorry-about-the-mess-just-checking-in-update/48553/30 "2008-05-16T12:35:51Z")

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how does one properly panic brake?

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**Author:** ![system](https://canada1.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/uploads/speedlife/original/2X/b/b7170c8eddc0b95ece6b88172b2f416a08489a45.png) [@system](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/system)\
**Post date:** [May 16, 2008, 1:14pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/sorry-about-the-mess-just-checking-in-update/48553/31 "2008-05-16T13:14:47Z")

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> [@strokingnova](#):
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> how does one properly panic brake?

I agree; reactions are a bitch sometimes but Ieatpaint makes a good point. If you practice this situation in a controlled environment it will make your “panic brake” that much more effective.

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**Author:** ![Tim](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/tim/32/5211_2.png) [@Tim](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Tim)\
**Post date:** [May 16, 2008, 1:28pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/sorry-about-the-mess-just-checking-in-update/48553/32 "2008-05-16T13:28:17Z")

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cover then squeeze the front brake more and more until you come to a complete stop while using the rear brake. At my class they preach that you dont grab the brakes in an emergency because you have a better chance of skidding out and lowsiding. Like the guy above, Definatley practice emergency stopping, it will save you many times. Just recommend going to an empty parking lot and practicing.

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**Author:** ![rdandy5875](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/rdandy5875/32/7511_2.png) [@rdandy5875](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/rdandy5875)\
**Post date:** [May 16, 2008, 1:47pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/sorry-about-the-mess-just-checking-in-update/48553/33 "2008-05-16T13:47:53Z")

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> [@ieatpaint315](#):
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> dont take this the wrong way please…
> 
> this is a prime example why practicing EMERGENCY braking saves your ass. willybeen preached it to me and i didi it. its saved me probably 25 times in 3 seasons. you probably wouldnt have gone down if you were braking properly… ie no tires skidding. also a prime example why you buy top of the line tires… pilot powers probably wouldnt have locked up and slid on you.
> 
> glad to hear youre ok man, just keep in mind that this shit happens and grabbing a shiny new bike may not b the best idea. pick up something comperable to wht you got and replace your helmet if it hit the pavement. good luck with the legal stuff dude.

+1, so important, live and learn i guess.

I know people say different, but With good tires the front brake can do 100% of the work and you have one less pedal to manipulate in a panic situation.

Progressively pull the lever, don’t jab it, even when you see impending danger, once you are set in a braking situation, the weight is transferred to the front, and the forks are compressed, providing less rake, you can pull the brake harder (until you flip over) and the tire won’t slide.

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**Author:** ![Willybeen](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/willybeen/32/7351_2.png) [@Willybeen](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Willybeen)\
**Post date:** [May 16, 2008, 1:58pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/sorry-about-the-mess-just-checking-in-update/48553/34 "2008-05-16T13:58:08Z")

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\<3 thanks boys… its true… practice braking until a stoppie doesnt feel unnatural and you know the limits of your tires and your brakes… seriously i cant stress it enough

When your on your way to work, home from work, just out cruising…

- find a nice clean parking lot, and take 15 minutes practicing
- practice going 0-30-0, then 0-40-0, all the way up to what ever speed you feel comfy going…
- frankly if you havent practiced coming from a stop from that speed you truly have no business going that fast
- This technique can and will save your life…ALSO. buy the best tires you can afford. (understand that tires will not grip well before the tires are warmed up… be prepared for skids if you do this straight out of the garage.)

I get asked a bunch of times a season how to wheelie by new riders, bottom line, a wheelie will never save your life, stopping fast will… practice stopping, run a trackday, learn the basics… your life and bike depend on it

Glad you’re alright, hope everything works out for you

> [@ieatpaint315](#):
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> dont take this the wrong way please…
> 
> this is a prime example why practicing EMERGENCY braking saves your ass. willybeen preached it to me and i didi it. its saved me probably 25 times in 3 seasons. you probably wouldnt have gone down if you were braking properly… ie no tires skidding. also a prime example why you buy top of the line tires… pilot powers probably wouldnt have locked up and slid on you.
> 
> glad to hear youre ok man, just keep in mind that this shit happens and grabbing a shiny new bike may not b the best idea. pick up something comperable to wht you got and replace your helmet if it hit the pavement. good luck with the legal stuff dude.

> [@rdandy5875](#):
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> +1, so important, live and learn i guess.
> 
> I know people say different, but With good tires the front brake can do 100% of the work and you have one less pedal to manipulate in a panic situation.
> 
> Progressively pull the lever, don’t jab it, even when you see impending danger, once you are set in a braking situation, the weight is transferred to the front, and the forks are compressed, providing less rake, you can pull the brake harder (until you flip over) and the tire won’t slide.

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**Author:** ![RedGoober4Life](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/redgoober4life/32/7610_2.png) [@RedGoober4Life](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/RedGoober4Life)\
**Post date:** [May 16, 2008, 2:33pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/sorry-about-the-mess-just-checking-in-update/48553/35 "2008-05-16T14:33:14Z")

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I always wondered if that was the same with motorcycles. On my bike bike I don’t even know if the rear brake works. It’s relatively ineffective compared to the front brake and proper weight transfer.

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**Author:** ![97eclipse420a](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/9/96bed5/32.png) [@97eclipse420a](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/97eclipse420a)\
**Post date:** [May 16, 2008, 5:47pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/sorry-about-the-mess-just-checking-in-update/48553/36 "2008-05-16T17:47:07Z")

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i just took the msf course just got the cert. and iwould def recommend taking it its well worth it i learned a little bit about the whole panic braking and such it was worth the 275$

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**Author:** ![Avatar](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/avatar/32/5076_2.png) [@Avatar](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Avatar)\
**Post date:** [May 16, 2008, 6:31pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/sorry-about-the-mess-just-checking-in-update/48553/37 "2008-05-16T18:31:27Z")

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Practicing braking is a great idea that is forgotten by a lot of new riders. I’m glad you’re okay.

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**Author:** ![Willybeen](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/willybeen/32/7351_2.png) [@Willybeen](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Willybeen)\
**Post date:** [May 16, 2008, 7:03pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/sorry-about-the-mess-just-checking-in-update/48553/38 "2008-05-16T19:03:26Z")

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its claimed 65/35 front rear stopping power… but i bet its closer to 70 or 80% front power over the rear…

I wouldnt ride a bike without a front brake. /story

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**Author:** ![Motocrossx23](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/motocrossx23/32/5120_2.png) [@Motocrossx23](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Motocrossx23)\
**Post date:** [May 16, 2008, 9:05pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/sorry-about-the-mess-just-checking-in-update/48553/39 "2008-05-16T21:05:57Z")

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i actually took the course through MANY’s, the NY ride with PRIDE course, and when I went to stop I did use the proper technique to brake, but remember, I had a matter of 5 feet to go from 35mph to 0, so no matter, i was kinda effed u know?

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**Author:** ![cky89](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/cky89/32/4945_2.png) [@cky89](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/cky89)\
**Post date:** [May 16, 2008, 9:35pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/sorry-about-the-mess-just-checking-in-update/48553/40 "2008-05-16T21:35:07Z")

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This kid actually sounds like he has a brain in his head. So I wouldn’t doubt that he’s tellin the troof

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