# Sorry Jim.. The proposed federal AWB **URL:** https://forums.speedlife.net/t/sorry-jim-the-proposed-federal-awb/266098 **Category:** Shift518 Off Topic **Created:** [January 25, 2013, 1:11pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/sorry-jim-the-proposed-federal-awb/266098 "2013-01-25T13:11:04Z") **Posts on this page:** 1 **Showing post:** 16
### Author: ![Vovchandr](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/vovchandr/32/6275_2.png) [@Vovchandr](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Vovchandr) #### Post date: [January 28, 2013, 1:09pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/sorry-jim-the-proposed-federal-awb/266098/16 "2013-01-28T13:09:47Z")
> [@/Rant The South](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/rant-the-south/51590/13): > > us is in the un. so if un wants guns gone and us takes guns then it will hit you in the face. not on any miss cleo shit. look at all the bills being proposed, look at ny. > > oo and they are training everyday. > > i am not running away from that article as i posted it. what do you mean? > > i think you are stupid but i dont go around telling you all the time dumbass Do you read what you say? I’m glad you think I’m stupid. Because everything you think about turns out to be wrong. > **U.S. role in establishing the UN** > The UN is an outgrowth of the [Atlantic Charter](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Atlantic_Charter). It appeared in the [Declaration by the United Nations](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Declaration_by_the_United_Nations) on January 1, 1942, in which 26 nations pledged to continue fighting the [Axis powers](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Axis_powers). > Their main inspiration was the [League of Nations](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/League_of_Nations); however, their goals were to rectify the League’s imperfections[[1]](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_and_the_United_Nations#cite_note-1) in order to create an organization that would be “the primary vehicle for maintaining peace and stability.”[[2]](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_and_the_United_Nations#cite_note-Jerry_Pubantz_2006-2) Roosevelt’s main role was to convince the different allies, especially [Winston Churchill](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Winston_Churchill) of the [United Kingdom](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_Kingdom) and [Joseph Stalin](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Joseph_Stalin) of the [Soviet Union](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Soviet_Union), to join the new organization.[[2]](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_and_the_United_Nations#cite_note-Jerry_Pubantz_2006-2) The negotiations mainly took place during the Dumbarton Oaks Conference and the Yalta Conference, where the three world leaders tried to reach a consensus concerning the United Nation’s structure, purposes and principles.[[3]](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_and_the_United_Nations#cite_note-3) It is interesting to note that “Roosevelt saw the United Nations as the crowning achievement of his political career.”[[4]](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_and_the_United_Nations#cite_note-4) > In 1945, representatives from 50 countries met in [San Francisco](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/San_Francisco) for the [United Nations Conference on International Organization](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_Nations_Conference_on_International_Organization). They deliberated on proposals that had been drafted by representatives of the [Republic of China](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Republic_of_China), the [Soviet Union](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Soviet_Union), the [United Kingdom](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_Kingdom) and the [United States](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States) at the [Dumbarton Oaks Conference](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dumbarton_Oaks_Conference) between August and October 1944. Roosevelt, Churchill and Stalin reviewed the Dumbarton Oaks proposal during the Yalta Conference in February 1945. The purpose of the conference was to discuss post-war settlements[[5]](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_and_the_United_Nations#cite_note-5) and to reach a final agreement concerning “the UN’s structure and membership and set the date of the San Francisco organizing conference”[[6]](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_and_the_United_Nations#cite_note-ReferenceA-6) The world leaders eventually agreed on Roosevelt’s proposal to give certain members a veto power[[7]](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_and_the_United_Nations#cite_note-7) so “that the Organization could take no important action without their joint consent.”[[8]](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_and_the_United_Nations#cite_note-8) Though the veto power question created a lot of disagreement among the different signatories,[[9]](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_and_the_United_Nations#cite_note-9) its inclusion in the charter was never a matter of negotiation for Roosevelt and his allies.[[10]](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_and_the_United_Nations#cite_note-10) Finally, during the Yalta conference, Stalin agreed to make the USSR a member of the United Nations.[[6]](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_and_the_United_Nations#cite_note-ReferenceA-6) > The [United Nations](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_Nations) officially came into existence on October 24, 1945, when the Charter was ratified by the [Republic of China](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Republic_of_China), [France](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/France), the [Soviet Union](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Soviet_Union), the [United Kingdom](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_Kingdom), the [United States](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States) as well as a majority of other signatories. > The most important American contribution to the United Nations system is perhaps the [Bretton Woods conference](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bretton_Woods_conference). This conference took place in 1944 and its goal was “to create a new international monetary and trade regime that was stable and predictable.”[[11]](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_and_the_United_Nations#cite_note-11) This new system opened world markets, promoted a liberal economy and was implemented through different institutions, such as the World Bank and the International Monetary Fund.[[12]](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_and_the_United_Nations#cite_note-12) > The United Nations was the first [international governmental organization](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/International_organization) to receive significant support from the United States. Its forerunner, the [League of Nations](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/League_of_Nations), had been championed by [Woodrow Wilson](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Woodrow_Wilson) after [World War I](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/World_War_I) to prevent future conflicts. While it was supported by most [European nations](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Europe), it was never ratified by the [United States Congress](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_Congress) due to the inability to reach a compromise regarding the [Lodge Reservations](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lodge_Reservations) or the [Hitchcock Reservations](http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Hitchcock_Reservations&action=edit&redlink=1). > Shortly after the establishment of the United Nations, the United States came into conflict with another member of the Security Council. Since the [Soviet Union](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Soviet_Union) was a permanent member of the [United Nations Security Council](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_Nations_Security_Council), it had the power to [veto](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Veto) any binding UN resolution. In fact, Soviet [foreign minister](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Foreign_minister) and UN [ambassador](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ambassador) [Vyacheslav Molotov](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vyacheslav_Molotov) used veto power twice as often as any other permanent member, earning him the title “Mr. Veto”. (see [Soviet Union and the United Nations](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Soviet_Union_and_the_United_Nations)) > Relations between the U.S. and the Soviet Union (later Russia) within the UN have evolved in step with the larger geopolitical situation between the two powers. While the Soviet Union was boycotting the Security Council and [China’s seat](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/China_and_the_United_Nations) was represented by U.S.-friendly [Republic of China](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Republic_of_China) (instead of the [communist](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Communist) [People’s Republic of China](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/People%27s_Republic_of_China) which would replace the ROC in the UN in 1971), the U.S. and UN jointly condemned the invasion of South Korea by North Korean troops, leading to the UN sanctioned [Korean War](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Korean_War). Later, the U.S. persuaded all permanent members of the Security Council to authorize force against [Iraq](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Iraq) after that nation invaded [Kuwait](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kuwait) in 1991. This was a major step toward U.S. and Russian reconciliation after the end of the [Cold War](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cold_War). > **[United States and the United Nations](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_and_the_United_Nations#U.S._role_in_establishing_the_UN)** > > The United States is a charter member of the United Nations and one of five permanent members of the UN Security Council. > The United States boasts the headquarters of the United Nations, which includes the usual meeting place of the General Assembly in New York City, in the north east coast of the country. The United States is the largest provider of financial contributions to the United Nations, providing 27.89 percent of the UN assessed peacekeeping budget of $6.38 billion for fiscal year 2... Tell me more about how US is the UN. You even have any idea what the UN is? Who is making the call on making UN take away our weapons? Specific person. What organization is going to go through and do it? Be specific When is the plan for this to be done? You seem to know everything leading up to this so… What states are they going to do it in? Why would they be proposing any gun regulation now when they are going to take it away by force later anyway? Is the US police going to be involved? Military? --- _[View the full topic](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/sorry-jim-the-proposed-federal-awb/266098)._