# Sorry Mac users....you aren't special. **URL:** \ **Category:** NYSpeed Off Topic\ **Created:** [July 31, 2009, 7:59am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/sorry-mac-users-you-arent-special/71377 "2009-07-31T07:59:56Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 2
**Author:** ![LZ1](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/7ab992/32.png) [@LZ1](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/LZ1)\ **Post date:** [July 31, 2009, 3:10pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/sorry-mac-users-you-arent-special/71377/21 "2009-07-31T15:10:50Z")
WHERE ARE THE 0DAY MACOSX EXPLIOTS! ---
**Author:** ![LZ1](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/7ab992/32.png) [@LZ1](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/LZ1)\ **Post date:** [July 31, 2009, 3:23pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/sorry-mac-users-you-arent-special/71377/22 "2009-07-31T15:23:05Z")
[http://www.ntinternals.org/win32k/NtUserConsoleControl\_Exp.zip](http://www.ntinternals.org/win32k/NtUserConsoleControl_Exp.zip) There is some windows 0day carry on… ---
**Author:** ![evane](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/6bbea6/32.png) [@evane](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/evane)\ **Post date:** [July 31, 2009, 4:46pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/sorry-mac-users-you-arent-special/71377/23 "2009-07-31T16:46:23Z")
> [@boxxa](#): > > :picard: > > Define VERY popular? If 8 out of every 100 people liked me (this year), I wouldn’t consider myself popular. Mac owns 8% of the computer share now. It went up 3% last year and less than that the year before. When 3 out of every 100 computers is running a OS, there is ZERO interest in exploiting it and taking advantage of it. > > Second, the right time means they need to see some value in it outside of the people who just try to hack something just becuase or to gain information on it. By “hack” we are refering to worms and exploits that turn Windows PC’s into botnets and such. Not someone getting in and getting all your porn files. Saying that, botnets being one of the most common result of worms, they are very powerful and have tons of functions. They can be sold, used for DDoS attacks at will, etc. Also, since they rely on a simple exploit in a system process, they are easy to write the hack for. > > Its not about “the right time”, its about the right reason and return on investment. Why write a worm that can infect (just this year) 8 of every 100 PCs out there when you can focus your attention to a Windows based exploit that can be aimed at 90 out of 100 computers out there? With what you just said that a gander at this [Daring Fireball: Microsoft’s Long, Slow Decline](http://daringfireball.net/2009/07/microsofts_long_slow_decline) Just some food for thought. Security is a big issue these days regardless of your platform/os choice. I am a OS X fanboy and I know it is still is open to attacks when not secured right. ---
**Author:** ![Djs87](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/djs87/32/5132_2.png) [@Djs87](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Djs87)\ **Post date:** [July 31, 2009, 10:11pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/sorry-mac-users-you-arent-special/71377/24 "2009-07-31T22:11:28Z")
haha its so easy to tell who owns a mac in this thread. Definitely not neonglh. 8/100…astronomically high. very popular…right. :picard: Ill consider it high when its a 2:1 ratio of PC:mac ---
**Author:** ![evane](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/6bbea6/32.png) [@evane](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/evane)\ **Post date:** [July 31, 2009, 10:43pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/sorry-mac-users-you-arent-special/71377/25 "2009-07-31T22:43:12Z")
> [@Djs87](#): > > haha its so easy to tell who owns a mac in this thread. Definitely not neonglh. 8/100…astronomically high. very popular…right. > > :picard: > > Ill consider it high when its a 2:1 ratio of PC:mac Would it surprise you that I didn’t buy a mac, I built a hackintosh (I did pay for OS X) when I was upgraded the mini nor Imac fit my needs now both do, they freaking refreshed a few months after I built my hackintosh. Next purchase will be a MBP though. ---
**Author:** ![LZ1](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/7ab992/32.png) [@LZ1](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/LZ1)\ **Post date:** [August 1, 2009, 5:40am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/sorry-mac-users-you-arent-special/71377/26 "2009-08-01T05:40:01Z")
I don’t own any Macs right now… ---
**Author:** ![boxxa](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/boxxa/32/5045_2.png) [@boxxa](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/boxxa)\ **Post date:** [August 3, 2009, 5:44am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/sorry-mac-users-you-arent-special/71377/27 "2009-08-03T05:44:03Z")
> [@Djs87](#): > > haha its so easy to tell who owns a mac in this thread. Definitely not neonglh. 8/100…astronomically high. very popular…right. > > :picard: > > Ill consider it high when its a 2:1 ratio of PC:mac :mamoru: I own 3 Macs. ok not really ---
**Author:** ![LZ1](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/7ab992/32.png) [@LZ1](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/LZ1)\ **Post date:** [August 3, 2009, 5:44am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/sorry-mac-users-you-arent-special/71377/28 "2009-08-03T05:44:41Z")
Defcon/Blackhat are over WHERE IS ALL THE CLIENT SIDE MACOSX 0DAY! ---
**Author:** ![boardjnky4](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/96bed5/32.png) [@boardjnky4](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/boardjnky4)\ **Post date:** [August 4, 2009, 5:55am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/sorry-mac-users-you-arent-special/71377/29 "2009-08-04T05:55:29Z")
LZ is awesome. I couldn’t agree with his statements here any more than I currently do. Also, it should be noted that most of the Mac exploits I have seen are browser hacks and backdoored torrents. I haven’t seen many OS/Kernel level stuff. Viruses can always be an issue for ANY OS. Mainly because stupid users will install anything that promises to do awesome shit. “Oh my god, I found an unheard program to get the music off my iPod!!! This is GREAT!!”…well, you just got owned. These threads suck because 99% of nyspeed members don’t understand shit. They just wanna go around thinking they are great. These faggot bloggers and “tech guru” writers feed off of the dummies. Same reason I can’t stand 90% of the front page digg posts. ---
**Author:** ![boxxa](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/boxxa/32/5045_2.png) [@boxxa](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/boxxa)\ **Post date:** [August 4, 2009, 6:33am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/sorry-mac-users-you-arent-special/71377/30 "2009-08-04T06:33:30Z")
> [@boardjnky4](#): > > LZ is awesome. I couldn’t agree with his statements here any more than I currently do. > > Also, it should be noted that most of the Mac exploits I have seen are browser hacks and backdoored torrents. I haven’t seen many OS/Kernel level stuff. > > Viruses can always be an issue for ANY OS. Mainly because stupid users will install anything that promises to do awesome shit. > > “Oh my god, I found an unheard program to get the music off my iPod!!! This is GREAT!!”…well, you just got owned. > > These threads suck because 99% of nyspeed members don’t understand shit. They just wanna go around thinking they are great. These faggot bloggers and “tech guru” writers feed off of the dummies. Same reason I can’t stand 90% of the front page digg posts. Ya I agree. I dont qualify a virus that takes user interaction or stuffing a torrent or image file with a trojan “hacking”. I just am looking forward to seeing the influx of people flooding the Genius Bar as Mac’s become more popular and people refuse to see that they are just like any other computer. After being in there to get my phone replaced and watching two people come in complaining saying their monitor was broken cuz they didnt have any icons, I am so glad I don’t do help desk. ---
**Author:** ![theblue](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/theblue/32/5074_2.png) [@theblue](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/theblue)\ **Post date:** [August 4, 2009, 7:15am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/sorry-mac-users-you-arent-special/71377/31 "2009-08-04T07:15:09Z")
after reading this thread I’ve decided to sell my macbook and iphone. you can never be too safe and now that there are 3 viruses out which you basically have to install yourself I just don’t feel safe anymore. ---
**Author:** ![boardjnky4](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/96bed5/32.png) [@boardjnky4](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/boardjnky4)\ **Post date:** [August 4, 2009, 7:17am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/sorry-mac-users-you-arent-special/71377/32 "2009-08-04T07:17:21Z")
the safest computer is the one that is shutdown and locked in a vault which is protected from fire/flood/etc… That is the only way your precious computer will ever be safe. What good will that do you though? ---
**Author:** ![boxxa](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/boxxa/32/5045_2.png) [@boxxa](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/boxxa)\ **Post date:** [August 4, 2009, 7:33am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/sorry-mac-users-you-arent-special/71377/33 "2009-08-04T07:33:20Z")
> [@theblue](#): > > after reading this thread I’ve decided to sell my macbook and iphone. you can never be too safe and now that there are 3 viruses out which you basically have to install yourself I just don’t feel safe anymore. good idea but what if people hack traffic camera and watch everything you do? ---
**Author:** ![LZ1](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/7ab992/32.png) [@LZ1](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/LZ1)\ **Post date:** [August 4, 2009, 8:40am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/sorry-mac-users-you-arent-special/71377/34 "2009-08-04T08:40:30Z")
> [@boxxa](#): > > good idea but what if people hack traffic camera and watch everything you do? Those traffic systems run off PCs lucky for us…If they ran of off Macs they would be getting hacked like WOAH Did you hear hackers are targeting the highly vulnerable Macs now? ---
**Author:** ![boxxa](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/boxxa/32/5045_2.png) [@boxxa](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/boxxa)\ **Post date:** [August 4, 2009, 9:24am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/sorry-mac-users-you-arent-special/71377/35 "2009-08-04T09:24:42Z")
> [@LZ](#): > > Those traffic systems run off PCs lucky for us…If they ran of off Macs they would be getting hacked like WOAH > > Did you hear hackers are targeting the highly vulnerable Macs now? They hacked my Mac so bad last night its running Windows now. ---
**Author:** ![Joe](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/joe/32/7219_2.png) [@Joe](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Joe)\ **Post date:** [August 4, 2009, 9:28am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/sorry-mac-users-you-arent-special/71377/36 "2009-08-04T09:28:40Z")
> [@boxxa](#): > > They hacked my Mac so bad last night its running Windows now. They did the exact opposite to me. They do that so much they even called it a hackintosh. ---
**Author:** ![boardjnky4](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/96bed5/32.png) [@boardjnky4](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/boardjnky4)\ **Post date:** [August 4, 2009, 9:57am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/sorry-mac-users-you-arent-special/71377/37 "2009-08-04T09:57:06Z")
> [@Joe](#): > > They did the exact opposite to me. They do that so much they even called it a hackintosh. so hackers are handing out favors now? ---
**Author:** ![Joe](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/joe/32/7219_2.png) [@Joe](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Joe)\ **Post date:** [August 4, 2009, 9:59am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/sorry-mac-users-you-arent-special/71377/38 "2009-08-04T09:59:14Z")
no cause then when i was running Mac OS I got hacked ☹ ---
**Author:** ![boardjnky4](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/96bed5/32.png) [@boardjnky4](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/boardjnky4)\ **Post date:** [August 4, 2009, 9:59am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/sorry-mac-users-you-arent-special/71377/39 "2009-08-04T09:59:51Z")
double-pwned not cool sounds like you need LINUX…it’s the end all be all…more secure than a bank vault…doesn’t even require patching! ---
**Author:** ![boxxa](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/boxxa/32/5045_2.png) [@boxxa](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/boxxa)\ **Post date:** [August 4, 2009, 11:03am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/sorry-mac-users-you-arent-special/71377/40 "2009-08-04T11:03:59Z")
> [@boardjnky4](#): > > double-pwned > > not cool > > sounds like you need LINUX…it’s the end all be all…more secure than a bank vault…doesn’t even require patching! Haha fuck that. I spent last night trying to figure out why the BIND update to prevent the DNS hack took down my DNS server when it updated. Lol [Previous page](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/sorry-mac-users-you-arent-special/71377.md?page=1) [Next page](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/sorry-mac-users-you-arent-special/71377.md?page=3)