# spark, fuel, not firing **URL:** \ **Category:** NYSpeed Automotive\ **Created:** [November 11, 2006, 6:22pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/spark-fuel-not-firing/20066 "2006-11-11T18:22:14Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 2
**Author:** ![AShort](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/ashort/32/4947_2.png) [@AShort](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/AShort)\ **Post date:** [November 12, 2006, 3:41pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/spark-fuel-not-firing/20066/21 "2006-11-12T15:41:32Z")
no im listening to you, im not trying to be a dick, i appreciated the help, ill double check the pulley and see if there is anything, if not ill try it with the screwdriver, ill let you know, thanks again ---
**Author:** ![boardjnky4](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/96bed5/32.png) [@boardjnky4](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/boardjnky4)\ **Post date:** [November 12, 2006, 3:44pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/spark-fuel-not-firing/20066/22 "2006-11-12T15:44:10Z")
> [@JDMjunkie](#): > > no im listening to you, im not trying to be a dick, i appreciated the help, ill double check the pulley and see if there is anything, if not ill try it with the screwdriver, ill let you know, thanks again im just messing with ya 🙂 but yeah, the screwdriver thing should work ---
**Author:** ![AShort](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/ashort/32/4947_2.png) [@AShort](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/AShort)\ **Post date:** [November 12, 2006, 4:08pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/spark-fuel-not-firing/20066/23 "2006-11-12T16:08:31Z")
well the screwdriver trick worked, the timing is dead on, when cylinder one is at TDC what cylinder should fire? is it number one? maybe i have fouled plugs? ---
**Author:** ![boardjnky4](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/96bed5/32.png) [@boardjnky4](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/boardjnky4)\ **Post date:** [November 12, 2006, 4:31pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/spark-fuel-not-firing/20066/24 "2006-11-12T16:31:16Z")
can u confirm that the ecu is good? ---
**Author:** ![nitroinsane](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/d26b3c/32.png) [@nitroinsane](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/nitroinsane)\ **Post date:** [November 12, 2006, 4:49pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/spark-fuel-not-firing/20066/25 "2006-11-12T16:49:30Z")
is the firing order correct? ---
**Author:** ![AShort](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/ashort/32/4947_2.png) [@AShort](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/AShort)\ **Post date:** [November 12, 2006, 4:58pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/spark-fuel-not-firing/20066/26 "2006-11-12T16:58:48Z")
yeah the ecu is good, i just bought a new one, yes the firing order is correct, is the dizzy supposed to be at cylinder one when its at TDC? also there was a little spring on the plastic part on the distributor that went inside the cap, does this have anything to do with it? it looked like a ground or something i dunno, also could the plugs be fouled? ---
**Author:** ![Final\_GTS](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/final_gts/32/7359_2.png) [@Final\_GTS](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Final_GTS)\ **Post date:** [November 12, 2006, 6:56pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/spark-fuel-not-firing/20066/27 "2006-11-12T18:56:50Z")
is this new ECU designed to run the injectors that are on the engine? Low/high impedance or size differences? if it is dumping fuel, you wont get anything but a “pop” and “bang” from time to time when cranking. Just for shits, unplug the fuel pump relay and crank it for a minute- if it drys out a little (assuming its flooded) it may run for a short time until everything is burned off… might put you in the general direction of the problem. ---
**Author:** ![AShort](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/ashort/32/4947_2.png) [@AShort](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/AShort)\ **Post date:** [November 12, 2006, 7:38pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/spark-fuel-not-firing/20066/28 "2006-11-12T19:38:49Z")
yes the new ecu is designed for this engine. ill try the fuel pump relay and see if that does anything. thanks for the input ---
**Author:** ![66impalass](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/66impalass/32/7429_2.png) [@66impalass](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/66impalass)\ **Post date:** [November 12, 2006, 8:45pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/spark-fuel-not-firing/20066/29 "2006-11-12T20:45:03Z")
I thought that the car needed a P72 unless you replaced the intake, it would run but it would run better with the p72 and the ability to control the secondary butterflies ---
**Author:** ![AShort](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/ashort/32/4947_2.png) [@AShort](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/AShort)\ **Post date:** [November 13, 2006, 3:53am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/spark-fuel-not-firing/20066/30 "2006-11-13T03:53:19Z")
well i thought it would run fine on a p13, the guy had a pt3 in it before, why, i dont know ---
**Author:** ![66impalass](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/66impalass/32/7429_2.png) [@66impalass](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/66impalass)\ **Post date:** [November 13, 2006, 5:52am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/spark-fuel-not-firing/20066/31 "2006-11-13T05:52:47Z")
the pt3 and p06 that where in there before where there as a temporary fix, to get the car drivable as the swap took over 6 months to complete and get things right. A P72 was trying to be located but never was before the sale of the car. ---
**Author:** ![boardjnky4](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/96bed5/32.png) [@boardjnky4](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/boardjnky4)\ **Post date:** [November 13, 2006, 5:58am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/spark-fuel-not-firing/20066/32 "2006-11-13T05:58:22Z")
yea, it really sounds like a case of a wrong ecu ---
**Author:** ![AShort](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/ashort/32/4947_2.png) [@AShort](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/AShort)\ **Post date:** [November 13, 2006, 11:38am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/spark-fuel-not-firing/20066/33 "2006-11-13T11:38:25Z")
> [@boardjnky4](#): > > yea, it really sounds like a case of a wrong ecu well it ran on the pt3 before and it doesnt run at all now. ---
**Author:** ![66impalass](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/66impalass/32/7429_2.png) [@66impalass](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/66impalass)\ **Post date:** [November 13, 2006, 12:06pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/spark-fuel-not-firing/20066/34 "2006-11-13T12:06:03Z")
the pt3 was also chipped with hondata, put it in again and see if it runs ---
**Author:** ![boardjnky4](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/96bed5/32.png) [@boardjnky4](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/boardjnky4)\ **Post date:** [November 13, 2006, 12:32pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/spark-fuel-not-firing/20066/35 "2006-11-13T12:32:44Z")
ummm, if u have a chipped ecu with hondata then just have innovative tuning program it for a stock h22. duh! ---
**Author:** ![66impalass](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/66impalass/32/7429_2.png) [@66impalass](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/66impalass)\ **Post date:** [November 13, 2006, 1:06pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/spark-fuel-not-firing/20066/36 "2006-11-13T13:06:25Z")
the problem is the P72, which is what it should have, was needed to control the secondary butterlies in the intake manifold ---
**Author:** ![AShort](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/ashort/32/4947_2.png) [@AShort](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/AShort)\ **Post date:** [November 13, 2006, 1:43pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/spark-fuel-not-firing/20066/37 "2006-11-13T13:43:05Z")
right now it has nothing to do with the computer, i just need it to run. it ran on the pt3 before i got the p13. then i wired in my VAFC in backwords, i looked at the female ends of the ecu connectors and not the side with the wires. i then wired everything up correctly, and it didnt start after that with the pt3. i got a code 15 which is ignition output signal. i changed the ignition module and still doesnt fire. any ideas? ---
**Author:** ![66impalass](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/66impalass/32/7429_2.png) [@66impalass](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/66impalass)\ **Post date:** [November 13, 2006, 1:58pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/spark-fuel-not-firing/20066/38 "2006-11-13T13:58:26Z")
pay someone to fix it, why the fuck would you put in the VAFC when it had hondata ---
**Author:** ![AShort](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/ashort/32/4947_2.png) [@AShort](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/AShort)\ **Post date:** [November 13, 2006, 2:00pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/spark-fuel-not-firing/20066/39 "2006-11-13T14:00:49Z")
because the person i bought it off of never informed me that it had hondata. if i knew do you think i would have wasted the money on it? ---
**Author:** ![66impalass](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/66impalass/32/7429_2.png) [@66impalass](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/66impalass)\ **Post date:** [November 13, 2006, 3:17pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/spark-fuel-not-firing/20066/40 "2006-11-13T15:17:36Z")
oh ya thats right I have the hondata sticker on my fridge [Previous page](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/spark-fuel-not-firing/20066.md?page=1) [Next page](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/spark-fuel-not-firing/20066.md?page=3)