# Spec or centerforce

**URL:** <https://forums.speedlife.net/t/spec-or-centerforce/170978>\
**Category:** PittSpeed Off Topic\
**Created:** [December 9, 2004, 4:07pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/spec-or-centerforce/170978 "2004-12-09T16:07:46Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![brokeasskorean](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/e19b73/32.png) [@brokeasskorean](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/brokeasskorean)\
**Post date:** [December 10, 2004, 7:14am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/spec-or-centerforce/170978/21 "2004-12-10T07:14:08Z")

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> [@Dick Starbucks](#):
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> i had a centerforce in my 91 gsx eclipse-i didnt install but best clutch i ever had. :bigok:

centerforce=junk

at least when put into modded dsm’s

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**Author:** ![T70\_Tsi](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/898d66/32.png) [@T70\_Tsi](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/T70_Tsi)\
**Post date:** [December 10, 2004, 7:35am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/spec-or-centerforce/170978/22 "2004-12-10T07:35:54Z")

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they’ve gotten better but the problem is that centerforce disks don’t like to be heated up from track use as they donht’ dissapate heat very well and either crumble or explode. it used to be that ACT made the best clutch setup for the “import” crowd but they’re disk quality took a dump about a year ago (not enough rivets on the hub assembly) so now they’re falling apart too. the pressure plates are awesome but their street disks leave something to be desired. pretty sure the puck disks don’t have this problem tho

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**Author:** ![BlackZ28](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/blackz28/32/5932_2.png) [@BlackZ28](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/BlackZ28)\
**Post date:** [December 10, 2004, 7:42am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/spec-or-centerforce/170978/23 "2004-12-10T07:42:41Z")

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when my clutch goes… or starts to slip, i’ll put a z06 clutch in.

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**Author:** ![imported\_SINISTER](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/imported_sinister/32/5970_2.png) [@imported\_SINISTER](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/imported_SINISTER)\
**Post date:** [December 10, 2004, 8:09am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/spec-or-centerforce/170978/24 "2004-12-10T08:09:47Z")

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> [@BlackZ28](#):
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> when my clutch goes… or starts to slip, i’ll put a z06 clutch in.

waste of money! z06 clutch is ass

amswell is having good luck with his spec 3i

ill be putting in a mcloed big dog twin

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**Author:** ![imported\_SINISTER](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/imported_sinister/32/5970_2.png) [@imported\_SINISTER](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/imported_SINISTER)\
**Post date:** [December 10, 2004, 8:12am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/spec-or-centerforce/170978/25 "2004-12-10T08:12:41Z")

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> [@BlackZ28](#):
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> 98/99s did have the weaker slave cylender

the slaves are bad but that not the reason that they stick to the floor!

it a restricor orphice in the the line comming form the master.

u need to do the drill mod to stop it from sticking.

instrunctions can be found on [installuniversity.com](http://installuniversity.com)

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**Author:** ![bics56](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/47e85d/32.png) [@bics56](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/bics56)\
**Post date:** [December 10, 2004, 1:54pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/spec-or-centerforce/170978/26 "2004-12-10T13:54:28Z")

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> [@2FNFast](#):
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> waste of money! z06 clutch is ass
> 
> amswell is having good luck with his spec 3i
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> ill be putting in a mcloed big dog twin

A lot of the guys on the Corvette Forum say that their 02 and newer clutches will sometime stick to the floor while drag racing. I want something that can handle up to 450 or so HP (just incase I run into some $$) and will hold up with a ass driver at the track a few times/year.

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**Author:** ![Quik](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/quik/32/5979_2.png) [@Quik](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Quik)\
**Post date:** [December 10, 2004, 2:03pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/spec-or-centerforce/170978/27 "2004-12-10T14:03:24Z")

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Zo6 best bet for now

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**Author:** ![Pewter](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/pewter/32/5936_2.png) [@Pewter](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Pewter)\
**Post date:** [December 10, 2004, 2:37pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/spec-or-centerforce/170978/28 "2004-12-10T14:37:54Z")

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> [@Quik](#):
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> Zo6 best bet for now

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**Author:** ![Gray05](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/cc9497/32.png) [@Gray05](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Gray05)\
**Post date:** [December 10, 2004, 2:56pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/spec-or-centerforce/170978/29 "2004-12-10T14:56:35Z")

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Z06 clutch will handle 430rwhp or so… thats your best bet

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**Author:** ![sonic03snake](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/898d66/32.png) [@sonic03snake](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/sonic03snake)\
**Post date:** [December 10, 2004, 3:35pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/spec-or-centerforce/170978/30 "2004-12-10T15:35:23Z")

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Spec is good in my book. I had over 75 6500 launches on my 1st one and it failed, sent it back to them and they sent a brand new replacement alum flywheel and clutch kit at no charge. This was after a year had gone by. Centerforce would never do that, you on your own after 90 days.

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**Author:** ![sonic03snake](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/898d66/32.png) [@sonic03snake](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/sonic03snake)\
**Post date:** [December 10, 2004, 3:40pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/spec-or-centerforce/170978/31 "2004-12-10T15:40:23Z")

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Any thing stock sucks period. It isn’t made for abuse like most of us dish out. It might handle the typical guy’s type of driving but once you put stickies on or try to slide the clutch out a few times they don’t have long to live. Ram, Spec, and Mc Leod seem to be the most durable ones i’ve seen.

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**Author:** ![BlkP42E](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/blkp42e/32/5938_2.png) [@BlkP42E](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/BlkP42E)\
**Post date:** [December 10, 2004, 3:47pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/spec-or-centerforce/170978/32 "2004-12-10T15:47:18Z")

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I really like my Spec stage 2

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**Author:** ![Quik](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/quik/32/5979_2.png) [@Quik](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Quik)\
**Post date:** [December 10, 2004, 4:12pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/spec-or-centerforce/170978/33 "2004-12-10T16:12:00Z")

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> [@BlkP42E](#):
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> I really like my Spec stage 2

how can you judge you only have 500 miles on it :bigthumb:

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**Author:** ![dappie99](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/57b2e6/32.png) [@dappie99](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/dappie99)\
**Post date:** [December 10, 2004, 5:14pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/spec-or-centerforce/170978/34 "2004-12-10T17:14:48Z")

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i have a spec stage 4 and its ok…very grippy clutch but last time i had it out it was wearing funny around the rivets and had a shitty ass groove in it. not the greatest for daily driving but its taken a lot of abuse and hasn’t failed me yet

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**Author:** ![bics56](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/47e85d/32.png) [@bics56](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/bics56)\
**Post date:** [December 11, 2004, 3:56pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/spec-or-centerforce/170978/35 "2004-12-11T15:56:39Z")

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I know a lot of you guy’s say Z06 is good…but I hear from Z06 guys that they stick to the floor sometimes while racing. So I guess it is between spec and centerforce

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**Author:** ![Pewter](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/pewter/32/5936_2.png) [@Pewter](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Pewter)\
**Post date:** [December 11, 2004, 3:57pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/spec-or-centerforce/170978/36 "2004-12-11T15:57:54Z")

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do the drill mod

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**Author:** ![tjZ28](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/9de0a6/32.png) [@tjZ28](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/tjZ28)\
**Post date:** [December 11, 2004, 4:56pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/spec-or-centerforce/170978/37 "2004-12-11T16:56:24Z")

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> [@bics56](#):
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> I know a lot of you guy’s say Z06 is good…but I hear from Z06 guys that they stick to the floor sometimes while racing. So I guess it is between spec and centerforce

Yeah, that’s a problem w/ modded Z06s often. But if you’re under the 350 RWHP level the Z06 clutch (and since you’ve got a '99 get all new and updated hydraulics and do the drill out mod) is very good. Dunno what your future plans for the car are, but from your sig I’m sure you’re under that level now.

Centerforces are shit. I’ve never heard of a happy LS1 owner w/ a Centerforce. SPECS I just wouldn’t trust.

> [@tjZ28](#):
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> I would never put a SPEC in my car… here’s my buddy’s:
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> He was very lucky most if it went down and sideways, what did go up cut up the floor and barely missed his feet/legs. And this certainly isn’t the only SPEC to do that. I have a handfull of buddies to grenade one.
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> The best way to go for a high HP LS1 is Excedy but they’re bank. Rams are damn good too. Z06s are pretty good up to mid-high 300 RWHP. Some live find around 400RWHP and some don’t. But certainly not over that.
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> -TJ

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**Author:** ![Gray05](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/cc9497/32.png) [@Gray05](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Gray05)\
**Post date:** [December 11, 2004, 10:13pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/spec-or-centerforce/170978/38 "2004-12-11T22:13:15Z")

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If you don’t go with the Z06, then go with a Ram… damn good clutch

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**Author:** ![bics56](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/47e85d/32.png) [@bics56](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/bics56)\
**Post date:** [December 12, 2004, 9:18am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/spec-or-centerforce/170978/39 "2004-12-12T09:18:19Z")

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What is this drill mod? I am pretty sure in the next couple of years I will mod the TA a little more. At most I will do Cam, headers, and heads. So figure around 450 at the wheels and at the flywheel like 500? Anyways I just dont trust the Z06 clutch, There are guys with only headers, catback, intake, and drag radials that are having them stick.

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**Author:** ![Quik](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/quik/32/5979_2.png) [@Quik](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Quik)\
**Post date:** [December 12, 2004, 9:27am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/spec-or-centerforce/170978/40 "2004-12-12T09:27:04Z")

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> [@bics56](#):
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> What is this drill mod? I am pretty sure in the next couple of years I will mod the TA a little more. At most I will do Cam, headers, and heads. So figure around 450 at the wheels and at the flywheel like 500? Anyways I just dont trust the Z06 clutch, There are guys with only headers, catback, intake, and drag radials that are having them stick.

youre not going to get 500 hp from just those mods and the clutch sticking isnt the clutch doing it. its the slave clyinder and needs to be modded

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