# Sperm donor must pay child support **URL:** \ **Category:** PittSpeed Off Topic\ **Created:** [July 26, 2004, 9:11pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/sperm-donor-must-pay-child-support/167992 "2004-07-26T21:11:02Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![slowcamaro](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/slowcamaro/32/5975_2.png) [@slowcamaro](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/slowcamaro)\ **Post date:** [July 26, 2004, 9:11pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/sperm-donor-must-pay-child-support/167992/1 "2004-07-26T21:11:02Z")
HARRISBURG, Pennsylvania (AP) – A state appeals court ruled that a verbal agreement between a woman and her sperm donor was invalid, and ordered the man to pay child support for the woman’s twins. The three-judge panel ruled Thursday that the deal between Joel McKiernan and Ivonne Ferguson – in which McKiernan donated his sperm and would not be obligated to pay any support – was unenforceable because of “legal, equitable and moral principles.” Despite an agreement that appeared to be a binding contract, the father is obligated to provide financial support, the court decided. “It is the interest of the children we hold most dear,”’ wrote Senior Judge Patrick Tamalia. McKiernan’s attorney said he may appeal. The decision could have implications for sperm and egg donors who expect anonymity, said Arthur Caplan, a professor and medical ethicist at the University of Pennsylvania. “Anybody who is a sperm donor ought to understand that their identity could be made known to any child that’s produced, and they could be seen by the courts as the best place to go to make sure the child has adequate financial support,” he said Friday. According to the trial judge’s opinion, Ferguson and McKiernan met while working together and had a two-year affair. The relationship waned by late 1993, when Ferguson convinced McKiernan to act as a sperm donor with no responsibility for any child born as a result, the opinion said. McKiernan, who has paid up to $1,520 a month in support since losing the case at trial, said he was not pleased with the ruling, but declined to comment further. Ferguson’s lawyer, Elizabeth Hoffman, said there was never evidence of an agreement between the two in which McKiernan would not have to pay any support. “There was no evidence except his word and her word and it was a matter of credibility,” he said ---
**Author:** ![BlkP42E](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/blkp42e/32/5938_2.png) [@BlkP42E](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/BlkP42E)\ **Post date:** [July 26, 2004, 9:11pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/sperm-donor-must-pay-child-support/167992/2 "2004-07-26T21:11:59Z")
that blows ---
**Author:** ![Sight\_N\_Sound](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/sight_n_sound/32/5950_2.png) [@Sight\_N\_Sound](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Sight_N_Sound)\ **Post date:** [July 26, 2004, 9:39pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/sperm-donor-must-pay-child-support/167992/3 "2004-07-26T21:39:19Z")
That is pure fucking horse shit. ---
**Author:** ![The1SloR\_T](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/the1slor_t/32/5984_2.png) [@The1SloR\_T](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/The1SloR_T)\ **Post date:** [July 26, 2004, 9:57pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/sperm-donor-must-pay-child-support/167992/4 "2004-07-26T21:57:51Z")
that sucks ---
**Author:** ![HaNnIBaL64](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/hannibal64/32/5954_2.png) [@HaNnIBaL64](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/HaNnIBaL64)\ **Post date:** [July 27, 2004, 2:24am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/sperm-donor-must-pay-child-support/167992/5 "2004-07-27T02:24:59Z")
> [@Sight N Sound](#): > > That is pure fucking horse shit. now i remember why i dont donate sperm ---
**Author:** ![Shaggy](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/shaggy/32/5945_2.png) [@Shaggy](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Shaggy)\ **Post date:** [July 27, 2004, 5:21am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/sperm-donor-must-pay-child-support/167992/6 "2004-07-27T05:21:40Z")
> [@BlkP42E](#): > > that blows if she did, he wouldn’t be in this situation… ---
**Author:** ![Darkstar](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/b487fb/32.png) [@Darkstar](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Darkstar)\ **Post date:** [July 27, 2004, 6:51am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/sperm-donor-must-pay-child-support/167992/7 "2004-07-27T06:51:53Z")
> [@slowcamaro](#): > > McKiernan, who has paid up to $1,520 a month in support since losing the case at trial, said he was **not pleased with the ruling** , but declined to comment further. :bowrofl: Jerk off into a cup, pay $1500 a month. :eek4dance: ---
**Author:** ![BlkP42E](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/blkp42e/32/5938_2.png) [@BlkP42E](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/BlkP42E)\ **Post date:** [July 27, 2004, 7:05am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/sperm-donor-must-pay-child-support/167992/8 "2004-07-27T07:05:11Z")
> [@Shaggy](#): > > if she did, he wouldn’t be in this situation… 🤣 ---
**Author:** ![Shaggy](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/shaggy/32/5945_2.png) [@Shaggy](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Shaggy)\ **Post date:** [July 27, 2004, 7:15am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/sperm-donor-must-pay-child-support/167992/9 "2004-07-27T07:15:33Z")
“It is the interest of the children we hold most dear,”’ wrote Senior Judge Patrick Tamalia." 🤣 Son, This is how you were conceived. I would like to you, Moms and I decided to go to the bank. No, Not that kinda bank. a Sperm bank, where I deposit semen into a little cup and jerk off to Black guys doing white girls videos. You were swimming in a cup handled by a Hot nurse… So thats how you began. ---
**Author:** ![BlkP42E](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/blkp42e/32/5938_2.png) [@BlkP42E](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/BlkP42E)\ **Post date:** [July 27, 2004, 7:19am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/sperm-donor-must-pay-child-support/167992/10 "2004-07-27T07:19:11Z")
> [@Shaggy](#): > > “It is the interest of the children we hold most dear,”’ wrote Senior Judge Patrick Tamalia." 🤣 > > Son, > This is how you were conceived. > I would like to you, Moms and I decided to go to the bank. No, Not that kinda bank. > a Sperm bank, where I deposit semen into a little cup and jerk off to Black guys doing white girls videos. > You were swimming in a cup handled by a Hot nurse… So thats how you began. :itr41: :itr41: :bowdown: :bowdown: ---
**Author:** ![S10Blazed\_Si](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/s10blazed_si/32/5983_2.png) [@S10Blazed\_Si](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/S10Blazed_Si)\ **Post date:** [July 27, 2004, 8:21am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/sperm-donor-must-pay-child-support/167992/11 "2004-07-27T08:21:28Z")
I bet she was another money hungry bitch that tricked him into wacking it into a cup. Then she hit the jackpot with twins. Damn bitch had that shit premeditated I bet. ---
**Author:** ![ninjenn](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/c67d28/32.png) [@ninjenn](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/ninjenn)\ **Post date:** [July 27, 2004, 8:23am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/sperm-donor-must-pay-child-support/167992/12 "2004-07-27T08:23:26Z")
> [@Sight N Sound](#): > > That is pure fucking horse shit. X2. Money grubbing cunt she is. ---
**Author:** ![Pewter](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/pewter/32/5936_2.png) [@Pewter](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Pewter)\ **Post date:** [July 27, 2004, 8:25am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/sperm-donor-must-pay-child-support/167992/13 "2004-07-27T08:25:28Z")
> [@huskysgrl](#): > > X2. Money grubbing cunt she is. now should u use that word ---
**Author:** ![ninjenn](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/c67d28/32.png) [@ninjenn](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/ninjenn)\ **Post date:** [July 27, 2004, 8:26am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/sperm-donor-must-pay-child-support/167992/14 "2004-07-27T08:26:00Z")
> [@8.1crew](#): > > now should u use that word You don’t think she is? ---
**Author:** ![Pewter](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/pewter/32/5936_2.png) [@Pewter](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Pewter)\ **Post date:** [July 27, 2004, 8:27am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/sperm-donor-must-pay-child-support/167992/15 "2004-07-27T08:27:56Z")
> [@huskysgrl](#): > > You don’t think she is? no ---
**Author:** ![ninjenn](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/c67d28/32.png) [@ninjenn](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/ninjenn)\ **Post date:** [July 27, 2004, 8:29am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/sperm-donor-must-pay-child-support/167992/16 "2004-07-27T08:29:53Z")
> [@huskysgrl](#): > > X2. Money grubbing hoochie should’ve known that the “father” wouldn’t be around to provide for the kiddies. Stupid bitch. better? :rolleyes: ---
**Author:** ![rookee](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/rookee/32/5972_2.png) [@rookee](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/rookee)\ **Post date:** [July 27, 2004, 1:20pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/sperm-donor-must-pay-child-support/167992/17 "2004-07-27T13:20:36Z")
> [@Shaggy](#): > > “It is the interest of the children we hold most dear,”’ wrote Senior Judge Patrick Tamalia." 🤣 > > Son, > This is how you were conceived. > I would like to you, my ex and I decided to go to the bank. No, Not that kinda bank. > a Sperm bank, where I deposit semen into a little cup and jerk off to Black guys doing white girls videos. > You were swimming in a cup handled by a Hot nurse… So thats how you began. > > I was paid $50 bux and i thought that was the last i’d ever see you, but your mother is a goldbricking whore who can’t support herself. so since your mom is a talentless pickle chugger who can’t even support the kid who she CHOSE to have, i was forced to goto court where i got some liberal judge and got railroaded. so just so you know son, everytime i look at you for the rest of your life i’ll remember how much you cost me and wish that i missed the cup and hit the floor. ---
**Author:** ![Shaggy](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/shaggy/32/5945_2.png) [@Shaggy](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Shaggy)\ **Post date:** [July 27, 2004, 1:39pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/sperm-donor-must-pay-child-support/167992/18 "2004-07-27T13:39:09Z")
much better 🤣 ---
**Author:** ![taco](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/ec9cab/32.png) [@taco](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/taco)\ **Post date:** [July 27, 2004, 2:48pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/sperm-donor-must-pay-child-support/167992/19 "2004-07-27T14:48:51Z")
1500 a month. those kids must have the best toys around. I ain’t making that much more than that after taxes each month and I got more bills than little kids do. ---
**Author:** ![EcoThunder](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/eb8c5e/32.png) [@EcoThunder](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/EcoThunder)\ **Post date:** [July 27, 2004, 2:55pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/sperm-donor-must-pay-child-support/167992/20 "2004-07-27T14:55:04Z")
Thats fucking crazy! [Next page](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/sperm-donor-must-pay-child-support/167992.md?page=2)