# spring is coming **URL:** \ **Category:** NYSpeed Off Topic\ **Created:** [January 17, 2006, 12:42pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/spring-is-coming/6949 "2006-01-17T12:42:08Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 19\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![MikeRi24](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/57b2e6/32.png) [@MikeRi24](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/MikeRi24)\ **Post date:** [January 17, 2006, 12:42pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/spring-is-coming/6949/1 "2006-01-17T12:42:08Z")
i’ve heard from some people that because it has been so warm lately, the lake is extremely warm and completely thawed. supposedly, because of these conditions, that means a VERY early spring is in store. im really hoping this is true, because i really want to drive my truck. mayb i’ll even be able to get it out in mid march rather than april. we’ll see. ---
**Author:** ![skatanic28](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/8e7dd6/32.png) [@skatanic28](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/skatanic28)\ **Post date:** [January 17, 2006, 12:43pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/spring-is-coming/6949/2 "2006-01-17T12:43:51Z")
wouldnt that make for more lake effect snow? ---
**Author:** ![jeeves744](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/jeeves744/32/7619_2.png) [@jeeves744](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/jeeves744)\ **Post date:** [January 17, 2006, 12:44pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/spring-is-coming/6949/3 "2006-01-17T12:44:27Z")
or if we have a sudden cold snap it can result and a massive lake effect snow storm ---
**Author:** ![Zer0DazE](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/zer0daze/32/7624_2.png) [@Zer0DazE](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Zer0DazE)\ **Post date:** [January 17, 2006, 12:46pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/spring-is-coming/6949/4 "2006-01-17T12:46:05Z")
> [@skatanic28](#): > > wouldnt that make for more lake effect snow? ^ someone passed earth science it does mean that i can start diving in the lakes earlier this year. ---
**Author:** ![MikeRi24](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/57b2e6/32.png) [@MikeRi24](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/MikeRi24)\ **Post date:** [January 17, 2006, 12:47pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/spring-is-coming/6949/5 "2006-01-17T12:47:06Z")
im no meteorologist, but thats just what i heard. ---
**Author:** ![Minglor](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/minglor/32/7373_2.png) [@Minglor](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Minglor)\ **Post date:** [January 17, 2006, 12:50pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/spring-is-coming/6949/6 "2006-01-17T12:50:12Z")
> [@jeeves744](#): > > or if we have a sudden cold snap it can result and a massive lake effect snow storm LOL that would suck… honestly I wouldnt care at all ---
**Author:** ![NYSFF](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/nysff/32/7353_2.png) [@NYSFF](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/NYSFF)\ **Post date:** [January 17, 2006, 12:51pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/spring-is-coming/6949/7 "2006-01-17T12:51:50Z")
> [@skatanic28](#): > > wouldnt that make for more lake effect snow? Lol, yeah screw spring, I’m still looking to dodge Winter! I’m sure were gonna get pounded soon! THENNNNNNNNN We can think spring! lol ---
**Author:** ![skatanic28](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/8e7dd6/32.png) [@skatanic28](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/skatanic28)\ **Post date:** [January 17, 2006, 12:54pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/spring-is-coming/6949/8 "2006-01-17T12:54:31Z")
> [@Zer0DazE](#): > > ^ > someone passed earth science > > it does mean that i can start diving in the lakes earlier this year. somehow i went through school without ever taking that. im hoping for at least 2’ during the next storm! ---
**Author:** ![Zer0DazE](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/zer0daze/32/7624_2.png) [@Zer0DazE](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Zer0DazE)\ **Post date:** [January 17, 2006, 12:56pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/spring-is-coming/6949/9 "2006-01-17T12:56:20Z")
> [@skatanic28](#): > > somehow i went through school without ever taking that. > > im hoping for at least 2’ during the next storm! fuck that, i hate brushing my car off. when you open the door snow falls in the car, and that really chaps my ass ---
**Author:** ![skatanic28](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/8e7dd6/32.png) [@skatanic28](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/skatanic28)\ **Post date:** [January 17, 2006, 12:58pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/spring-is-coming/6949/10 "2006-01-17T12:58:16Z")
> [@Zer0DazE](#): > > fuck that, i hate brushing my car off. when you open the door snow falls in the car, and that really chaps my ass thats what god made sleeves for 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![SilverGTP](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/35a633/32.png) [@SilverGTP](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/SilverGTP)\ **Post date:** [January 17, 2006, 12:58pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/spring-is-coming/6949/11 "2006-01-17T12:58:21Z")
I can’t wait to bump this thread in March ---
**Author:** ![MonteCarloChick](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/ee59a6/32.png) [@MonteCarloChick](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/MonteCarloChick)\ **Post date:** [January 17, 2006, 12:59pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/spring-is-coming/6949/12 "2006-01-17T12:59:10Z")
> [@Zer0DazE](#): > > fuck that, i hate brushing my car off. when you open the door snow falls in the car, and that really chaps my ass AMEN ---
**Author:** ![95AccordVtec](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/95accordvtec/32/7239_2.png) [@95AccordVtec](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/95AccordVtec)\ **Post date:** [January 17, 2006, 12:59pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/spring-is-coming/6949/13 "2006-01-17T12:59:19Z")
screw an early spring … gives me more time to come up with with excuses why my car isnt on the road yet ---
**Author:** ![MPD47](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/mpd47/32/7383_2.png) [@MPD47](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/MPD47)\ **Post date:** [January 17, 2006, 1:04pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/spring-is-coming/6949/14 "2006-01-17T13:04:50Z")
> [@Zer0DazE](#): > > fuck that, i hate brushing my car off. when you open the door snow falls in the car, and that really chaps my ass Personally, it grinds my gears. ---
**Author:** ![MaximaSE98](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/maximase98/32/7600_2.png) [@MaximaSE98](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/MaximaSE98)\ **Post date:** [January 17, 2006, 1:05pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/spring-is-coming/6949/15 "2006-01-17T13:05:33Z")
i was watching the weather channel about a week ago and they said that because of the Pacific currents this this year that our region might see a couple more cold spirts of like 2-3 days but mostly stay above normal temperatures and not much snow at all ---
**Author:** ![Minglor](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/minglor/32/7373_2.png) [@Minglor](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Minglor)\ **Post date:** [January 17, 2006, 1:05pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/spring-is-coming/6949/16 "2006-01-17T13:05:48Z")
> [@MPD47](#): > > Personally, it grinds my gears. HAHAHA family guy…rules. ---
**Author:** ![Deuce](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/deuce/32/7614_2.png) [@Deuce](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Deuce)\ **Post date:** [January 17, 2006, 1:18pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/spring-is-coming/6949/17 "2006-01-17T13:18:07Z")
the weather has been unusually mild, but that by no means would dictate or suggest an early spring, or that winter is over if trends continue it’s possible to have an earlier than average spring but that is still months away, there are many factors that are involved. if i get time i will look at the long range NAO, PDO and ENSO predictions and see what the output suggests as far as a long term weather outlook if the lake stays ice free, that gives us a chance for lake effect snow all season long. a critical element for lake effect snow is there must be a temperature difference between the air at the 850mb height and the lake temperature of at least 13\*celcius. (not including a bunch of other variables for optimum lake effect conditions) whoever told you that was spewing random facts out of their ass, there is no way to say we will have an early spring because the lake isnt frozen yet, the following graph shows a typical “lake season” for lake erie and the buffalo area. notice the lake doesnt typically freeze untill the end of Jan. ![http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v631/snoboardr70/lakeeffect.gif](http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v631/snoboardr70/lakeeffect.gif) the next graph shows data for the fall and winter of 2005/2006, it doesnt look like the data has been updated yet but you can see the lake temperatures in 2005 compared to the average, and if you look back towards jan/feb of 2005 you can see that the lake finally froze at the end of jan. / beginning of feb. ![http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v631/snoboardr70/2005LE.gif](http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v631/snoboardr70/2005LE.gif) the follow shows lake erie’s water temp on jan 16th in the eastern basin. as you can tel the temps average in the mid to upper 30’s ![http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v631/snoboardr70/e3.gif](http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v631/snoboardr70/e3.gif) hope this cleared up any confusion ---
**Author:** ![walter](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/walter/32/7202_2.png) [@walter](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/walter)\ **Post date:** [January 17, 2006, 1:21pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/spring-is-coming/6949/18 "2006-01-17T13:21:10Z")
Come on, you live in WNY and it’s barely halfway through Jan, you are thinking about spring? :lmfao: It’s been 70 down here tho ---
**Author:** ![AlbinoMonkeyRat](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/bb73d2/32.png) [@AlbinoMonkeyRat](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/AlbinoMonkeyRat)\ **Post date:** [January 17, 2006, 1:22pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/spring-is-coming/6949/19 "2006-01-17T13:22:06Z")
^ not for me it didn’t. why is “Frozen Lake” in the “Warm lake” section?