# SR Sidemount Intercooler On A KA - Questions **URL:** \ **Category:** SON240sx Automotive\ **Created:** [May 19, 2008, 8:25pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/sr-sidemount-intercooler-on-a-ka-questions/115641 "2008-05-19T20:25:50Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![Martino](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/martino/32/5674_2.png) [@Martino](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Martino)\ **Post date:** [May 19, 2008, 8:25pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/sr-sidemount-intercooler-on-a-ka-questions/115641/1 "2008-05-19T20:25:50Z")
Pro’s and Con’s Pretty much, i’m just looking at some advice on using an SR sidemount setup. Doesn’t mean I AM going with a sidemount, just considering the possibility and would like some further guidance on it. What EXACTLY am I loseing, or causing by going this route, and what needs to be done to modify the piping (if any) for the KA using a bottom mount. Pics of anyones setup using such, would be greatly appreciated. Thanks. Mike ---
**Author:** ![Qred13](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/q/8c91f0/32.png) [@Qred13](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Qred13)\ **Post date:** [May 19, 2008, 8:36pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/sr-sidemount-intercooler-on-a-ka-questions/115641/2 "2008-05-19T20:36:43Z")
Any front mount setup is better than hidden under front fender intercooler. Although not everybody like to show big intercooler in the front. There is a post in todays Parts For Sale section about clever, hidden and also very efficient intercooler on a budget. ---
**Author:** ![Martino](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/martino/32/5674_2.png) [@Martino](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Martino)\ **Post date:** [May 19, 2008, 8:40pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/sr-sidemount-intercooler-on-a-ka-questions/115641/3 "2008-05-19T20:40:38Z")
I saw that, not really interested in it. **Oh and also it will be behind the usdm grills rather than the dtrls.** ---
**Author:** ![Fobwall](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/7ea924/32.png) [@Fobwall](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Fobwall)\ **Post date:** [May 19, 2008, 9:12pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/sr-sidemount-intercooler-on-a-ka-questions/115641/4 "2008-05-19T21:12:09Z")
First of all, it’s a direct bolt on if you plan on going with a stock T25/T25 bottom mount setup. You can use an SR hotpipe, it will work. Also, the coldpipe from a stock SR SMIC setup is a direct bolt on too. The only thing you need to do is cut the area where your stock airbox resonator is. ![http://jammin.jshost.ca/mark/The%20Swap/SMIC%20Project/smic%20cut.jpg](http://jammin.jshost.ca/mark/The%20Swap/SMIC%20Project/smic%20cut.jpg) That area has been cleaned up btw… it’s not that ghetto anymore 🙂 Also, if you want your SMIC to be really efficient, what you want to do is add ducting, I made up some ghetto ducting last year but it seems to be working well as I run 12 psi all day long at the track. Keep in mind, I also run an ARC sidemount intercooler. Here’s a pic of it: ![http://jammin.jshost.ca/mark/The%20Swap/SMIC%20Project/smiccomplete.jpg](http://jammin.jshost.ca/mark/The%20Swap/SMIC%20Project/smiccomplete.jpg) As you can see in this pic… the 2 bolts on the left are a direct bolt on, but we just made an “L” bracket mount for the SMIC to make sure that it’s a lot more secure. ![http://jammin.jshost.ca/mark/The%20Swap/SMIC%20Project/SMICmount.jpg](http://jammin.jshost.ca/mark/The%20Swap/SMIC%20Project/SMICmount.jpg) You don’t have to go all the way with the ducting but I’d recommend that you at least have the stock ducting. Btw, the JDM grills help with the ducting as well as there’s something that directs the air to the ducting. And you aren’t “losing” anything by going this route, I think it’s great actually. Most people go FMIC for the looks, it’s one of those things that people do first when they have a turbo car. FMIC + Blow off valve, that’s all that matters. My car made 252 lb/ft and 248whp @ 13 psi with my sidemount. Stock MAF, Stock Injectors, full exhaust. AEM EMS. Good luck. ---
**Author:** ![Martino](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/martino/32/5674_2.png) [@Martino](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Martino)\ **Post date:** [May 19, 2008, 9:42pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/sr-sidemount-intercooler-on-a-ka-questions/115641/5 "2008-05-19T21:42:11Z")
So pretty much, the entire SR smic setup will definatly bolt on directly for my bottom mount for my KA. Does that include the 2 hose’s to the right of the throttle body (small hose, and the iacv hose)? ---
**Author:** ![Fobwall](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/7ea924/32.png) [@Fobwall](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Fobwall)\ **Post date:** [May 19, 2008, 9:45pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/sr-sidemount-intercooler-on-a-ka-questions/115641/6 "2008-05-19T21:45:04Z")
Yup I believe so. ---
**Author:** ![spd-dmn](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/spd-dmn/32/5513_2.png) [@spd-dmn](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/spd-dmn)\ **Post date:** [May 19, 2008, 9:45pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/sr-sidemount-intercooler-on-a-ka-questions/115641/7 "2008-05-19T21:45:05Z")
it’s only a direct bolt on if the turbo sits in the exact same spot as it would on the sr it basically depends on how the ka turbo manifold places the turbo compared to an sr turbo manifold ---
**Author:** ![Martino](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/martino/32/5674_2.png) [@Martino](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Martino)\ **Post date:** [May 19, 2008, 9:51pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/sr-sidemount-intercooler-on-a-ka-questions/115641/8 "2008-05-19T21:51:31Z")
^^I’m using an xspower manifold. Think it’ll sit the same? ---
**Author:** ![Fobwall](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/7ea924/32.png) [@Fobwall](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Fobwall)\ **Post date:** [May 19, 2008, 9:53pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/sr-sidemount-intercooler-on-a-ka-questions/115641/9 "2008-05-19T21:53:20Z")
Walter had a bottom mount manifold on his ka-t setuP and had a t25, everything was a direct bolt on. He even used an Sr downpipe. ---
**Author:** ![Martino](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/martino/32/5674_2.png) [@Martino](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Martino)\ **Post date:** [May 19, 2008, 9:56pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/sr-sidemount-intercooler-on-a-ka-questions/115641/10 "2008-05-19T21:56:50Z")
Mark, the sr piping only has a spot for the iacv hose doesn’t it? ---
**Author:** ![Pants](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/pants/32/5590_2.png) [@Pants](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Pants)\ **Post date:** [May 19, 2008, 10:08pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/sr-sidemount-intercooler-on-a-ka-questions/115641/11 "2008-05-19T22:08:02Z")
i told u it would fit ---
**Author:** ![Martino](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/martino/32/5674_2.png) [@Martino](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Martino)\ **Post date:** [May 20, 2008, 6:09am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/sr-sidemount-intercooler-on-a-ka-questions/115641/12 "2008-05-20T06:09:04Z")
Lol, well i was stuck in confusion only because you said it would, and chris disagree’d…i needed some more clarification 😉 lol ---
**Author:** ![DJPyro](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/278dde/32.png) [@DJPyro](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/DJPyro)\ **Post date:** [May 20, 2008, 8:00am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/sr-sidemount-intercooler-on-a-ka-questions/115641/13 "2008-05-20T08:00:08Z")
Don’t listen to Chris, he’s a putz… I mean, who paints their car flat green anyway?😛 ---
**Author:** ![Fobwall](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/7ea924/32.png) [@Fobwall](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Fobwall)\ **Post date:** [May 20, 2008, 10:00am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/sr-sidemount-intercooler-on-a-ka-questions/115641/14 "2008-05-20T10:00:31Z")
![http://jammin.jshost.ca/mark/The%20Swap/March%2027,%2007/Installed2.jpg](http://jammin.jshost.ca/mark/The%20Swap/March%2027,%2007/Installed2.jpg) ---
**Author:** ![Martino](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/martino/32/5674_2.png) [@Martino](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Martino)\ **Post date:** [May 20, 2008, 10:21am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/sr-sidemount-intercooler-on-a-ka-questions/115641/15 "2008-05-20T10:21:38Z")
^^ yea, wheres the second hose? ---
**Author:** ![DJPyro](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/278dde/32.png) [@DJPyro](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/DJPyro)\ **Post date:** [May 20, 2008, 12:36pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/sr-sidemount-intercooler-on-a-ka-questions/115641/16 "2008-05-20T12:36:41Z")
What second hose? ---
**Author:** ![Martino](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/martino/32/5674_2.png) [@Martino](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Martino)\ **Post date:** [May 20, 2008, 5:06pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/sr-sidemount-intercooler-on-a-ka-questions/115641/17 "2008-05-20T17:06:49Z")
This one… NOT MY KA ![http://img512.imageshack.us/img512/276/photo0340kq6eb3.jpg](http://img512.imageshack.us/img512/276/photo0340kq6eb3.jpg) ---
**Author:** ![R33](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/5f8ce5/32.png) [@R33](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/R33)\ **Post date:** [May 21, 2008, 12:30am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/sr-sidemount-intercooler-on-a-ka-questions/115641/18 "2008-05-21T00:30:07Z")
u dont need all those vac lines [http://forums.nicoclub.com/zerothread/157751](http://forums.nicoclub.com/zerothread/157751) take them all out … only leave the one on the lower intake manifold for ur boost gauge. ---
**Author:** ![R33](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/5f8ce5/32.png) [@R33](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/R33)\ **Post date:** [May 21, 2008, 12:34am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/sr-sidemount-intercooler-on-a-ka-questions/115641/19 "2008-05-21T00:34:26Z")
> [@Wheres #7](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/wheres-7/17035/3): > > First of all, it’s a direct bolt on if you plan on going with a stock T25/T25 bottom mount setup. You can use an SR hotpipe, it will work. Also, the coldpipe from a stock SR SMIC setup is a direct bolt on too. The only thing you need to do is cut the area where your stock airbox resonator is. > > That area has been cleaned up btw… it’s not that ghetto anymore 🙂 > > Also, if you want your SMIC to be really efficient, what you want to do is add ducting, I made up some ghetto ducting last year but it seems to be working well as I run 12 psi all day long at the track. Keep in mind, I also run an ARC sidemount intercooler. Here’s a pic of it: > > As you can see in this pic… the 2 bolts on the left are a direct bolt on, but we just made an “L” bracket mount for the SMIC to make sure that it’s a lot more secure. > > You don’t have to go all the way with the ducting but I’d recommend that you at least have the stock ducting. Btw, the JDM grills help with the ducting as well as there’s something that directs the air to the ducting. > > And you aren’t “losing” anything by going this route, I think it’s great actually. Most people go FMIC for the looks, it’s one of those things that people do first when they have a turbo car. FMIC + Blow off valve, that’s all that matters. > > My car made 252 lb/ft and 248whp @ 13 psi with my sidemount. Stock MAF, Stock Injectors, full exhaust. AEM EMS. > > Good luck. did u dyno it before EMS ? what did it make? ---
**Author:** ![Fobwall](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/7ea924/32.png) [@Fobwall](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Fobwall)\ **Post date:** [May 21, 2008, 6:06am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/sr-sidemount-intercooler-on-a-ka-questions/115641/20 "2008-05-21T06:06:12Z")
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